schmeldon13 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 First the Dolphins get Reggie Bush, and now we dump Rolston. Good day for me in the sports department so far. Now all I need is for the Fins to finish the Kyle Orton trade, Nnamdi Asoughma to snub the Jets, and for Parise to sign long-term and we're in business. Glad to see I'm not the only dolphins fan on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think hunter can have a good year, no longer playing w fishsticks is a sign of that. He's also been plagued w injuries last two yrs. When he's on his game he is very effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Glad to see I'm not the only dolphins fan on here I'm another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac760 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) As far as I'm concerned, if we had had to buy out Rolston, it would've been 500k more cap hit than this is, and we get a return of a player about at Rolston's level. I'm pretty certain Rolston could not be bought out without having his full salary count against the cap. Edited July 29, 2011 by mac760 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I think hunter can have a good year, no longer playing w fishsticks is a sign of that. He's also been plagued w injuries last two yrs. When he's on his game he is very effective Same with Rolston, got injured and never found his game again really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amberite Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Same with Rolston, got injured and never found his game again really. Rolston will turn 39 this season. Even with being on the top 2 lines on the island, I think 40 points is his top end production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Well seriously if hunter is always injured its even better lol if he goes on ltir, same with salvadore thats an extra 5m + wtv cap space left that we have with parise signed...id guess about a milliom? Well if were not contenders now.... Im pretty sure that with 6-7 millions at the deadline we could get real good additions or ufa that we could try to resign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grcenter47 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Well seriously if hunter is always injured its even better lol if he goes on ltir, same with salvadore thats an extra 5m + wtv cap space left that we have with parise signed...id guess about a milliom? Well if were not contenders now.... Im pretty sure that with 6-7 millions at the deadline we could get real good additions or ufa that we could try to resign any word on salvador? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldon Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Lost in all this, we'll still be able to see Rolston wink at the camera during interviews on MSG+ Islander games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharifijanov2099 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I was just glad TSN didn't re-hash its go to headline "Deal with the Devils." I seriously considered getting some champagne when I heard this news. After much fan speculation about the Isles cap floor, I never thought it would actually come true. Thank you, Garth!! I wonder what favor down the road we'll owe. Regardless, fingers crossed that a Parise contract soon follows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I was just glad TSN didn't re-hash its go to headline "Deal with the Devils." I seriously considered getting some champagne when I heard this news. After much fan speculation about the Isles cap floor, I never thought it would actually come true. Thank you, Garth!! I wonder what favor down the road we'll owe. Regardless, fingers crossed that a Parise contract soon follows. Favor? We took on Trent Hunter, a player who has no role on Long Island anymore, and gave them a left wing, which they needed. There's no favors being done here on either side, both teams got something they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharifijanov2099 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Favor? We took on Trent Hunter, a player who has no role on Long Island anymore, and gave them a left wing, which they needed. There's no favors being done here on either side, both teams got something they want. Taking on 5 million in non-dumpable salary is a favor. Sure, they needed a LW, but teams like the Isles (who are not yet at a serious contender state) don't desperately need to satisfy all positional wishes. Rolston isn't some great mentor either. For me, despite our absorbing a 2-year contract (which can be buried) in exchange for a 1-year, I think this is a clear favor. There are better ways to spend 5 million than on a washed up 39-yr old. It makes more sense to overpay on a very good player than it does to overpay on a bad one. Isles should have offer sheeted Doughty for 8 million, or thrown 9 million at Richards. They didn't need to take on Rolston. I realize they are yet to hit the cap floor still, but Rolston's not the only bad contract out there. I dunno, for my money, I'd overpay a good player (or a few of them) to hit the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moustic Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Richards & Doughty would have not sign with the Isles... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharifijanov2099 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Richards & Doughty would have not sign with the Isles... Throw 10 mill at a guy like Richards. A few million will change what people think of your team. And the Isles are up-and-coming. They'll be good in a few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Taking on 5 million in non-dumpable salary is a favor. Sure, they needed a LW, but teams like the Isles (who are not yet at a serious contender state) don't desperately need to satisfy all positional wishes. They do need to hit the salary floor. Rolston isn't some great mentor either. While I trust neither players' nor GMs' assessment of a player's 'leadership' qualities, both his teammates and Lou have a lot of good things to say about him on this account. For me, despite our absorbing a 2-year contract (which can be buried) in exchange for a 1-year, I think this is a clear favor. There are better ways to spend 5 million than on a washed up 39-yr old. It makes more sense to overpay on a very good player than it does to overpay on a bad one. Isles should have offer sheeted Doughty for 8 million, or thrown 9 million at Richards. They didn't need to take on Rolston. I realize they are yet to hit the cap floor still, but Rolston's not the only bad contract out there. I dunno, for my money, I'd overpay a good player (or a few of them) to hit the floor. Rolston was a good player last year, and again, they got rid of trent hunter. if you can spend 46M per season, having a 2M player playing the 4th line (who can't stay healthy) is bad. Would they rather have Jochen Hecht? I mean, there's not a lot of teams looking to dump salary. And the free agent market is a wasteland. This deal is fine from an Islander perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerrydevil Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 They'll be good in a few years. I've heard that one before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Didn't like the contract, but liked Brian. Nothing but the best of luck to him out on the Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 My initial reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Best news since ... I don't fvcking remember. We dump cap and keep Zubs and Clarkson, who still have some value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I'd say this trade was rather unneccesary now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I'd say this trade was rather unneccesary now Maybe I think it was clear Brian wasn't getting a lick of ice-time on the top two lines anyway, and he is a non-factor when he isn't there. Saves the team 3 million, which is nice for an owner. It also allows some younger players much needed minutes to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 So in other words it was a favor to the owner and the player, at the expense of the team. I'm surprised Lou hasn't resigned already if that was the case but he might be on track to being fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 So in other words it was a favor to the owner and the player, at the expense of the team. I'm surprised Lou hasn't resigned already if that was the case but he might be on track to being fired. yeah, a favor to the owner, who is then going to fire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 This was more my point: If Lou was doing this trade cause of Vanderbeek's financial concerns then he should resign cause that's not the way he's done business (with handcuffs). And since when has Lou ever done a trade as a favor to a player AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TEAM? Granted Rolston's not a big deal but the only reason for doing this trade was cap savings...for what exactly? If Lou was doing this trade cause he thinks Hunter is a better player than he should be fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 If Lou was doing this trade cause of Vanderbeek's financial concerns then he should resign cause that's not the way he's done business (with handcuffs). And since when has Lou ever done a trade as a favor to a player AT THE EXPENSE OF THE TEAM? Granted Rolston's not a big deal but the only reason for doing this trade was cap savings...for what exactly? If Lou was doing this trade cause he thinks Hunter is a better player than he should be fired. This is what I want to know. My guess is that Rolston was a sourpuss behind the scenes as his comments to TG showed and Lou wanted to get rid of him anyway (i.e. Langenbrunner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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