adam85491 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I would not give parise a huge contract, he has to prove he can still play. also cannot see a scenario where he is paid more than kovalchuk. Either he wants out or wants an outrageous salary.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin226 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I don't know why people are all bent out of shape.. I called this a few weeks ago.. I said that Lou would sign Zach to a lesser 1 year deal (and maybe 6 mil isn't that little, but if he signed long term it would have been for more per year) and then sign him long term during the 2nd half of the season, or at least before he becomes UFA.. That way Zach can have an even higher number per year and long term, which is good for him, and Lou can squeeze him in this season with some room to spare Lou has more room this year and signs Zach long term after that, and Zach takes less this year for a higher number per year for many years (possibly the rest of his career) Win win.. Good job Lou! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BelieveinBrodeur Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 (edited) Just like Montreal did with Gorges; they want to make sure he can play like he used to before signing him to a long term deal. Edited July 29, 2011 by BelieveinBrodeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 The Devils mitigate some of their risk with this. Signing a guy coming off a major injury to a lifetime contract is difficult. Especially with the ownership issues. He might stay, he might leave, depends on what happens this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtikl Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Zach, wear the "C" in your heart, have a Hall of Fame record year, shred the league's goalies, and blow the Devils' cap sky high next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I'd rather have a long term deal right now but a 1 year deal isn't the end of the world either. Not going to arbitration is a good sign, as we know Lou is comfortable doing that if he feels it's the best course of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I don't know why people are all bent out of shape.. I called this a few weeks ago.. I said that Lou would sign Zach to a lesser 1 year deal (and maybe 6 mil isn't that little, but if he signed long term it would have been for more per year) and then sign him long term during the 2nd half of the season, or at least before he becomes UFA.. Oh please...they had MONTHS to work on a deal now! If it's not going to hapen now it sure isn't going to happen in January. And now Lou'll have to pay a king's ransom to keep him in the offseason when he's bidding against everyone else. And now I have to wonder wtf we traded Rolston for anyway? Unless it was a favor by Lou to get him out of a place he wasn't wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin226 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 The Devils mitigate some of their risk with this. Signing a guy coming off a major injury to a lifetime contract is difficult. Especially with the ownership issues. He might stay, he might leave, depends on what happens this year. Agreed. I've been saying all along that the surgery he had is not something most people come back 100% from.. Zach's a freak athlete and one of the most determined competitors in hockey, so if someone will do it then it will be him.. By why sign long term if this becomes an issue for the rest of his career.. Let's see how the first half goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsharkalligatorhalfman Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 What the hell was the point of trading Rolston then? Lou must think Salvador will play next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BelieveinBrodeur Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Agreed. I've been saying all along that the surgery he had is not something most people come back 100% from.. Zach's a freak athlete and one of the most determined competitors in hockey, so if someone will do it then it will be him.. By why sign long term if this becomes an issue for the rest of his career.. Let's see how the first half goes +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Hopefully it ends up being a 6 month deal and an extension is signed in January, but I'm guessing an extension won't really be signed until the very last minute, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Lamoriello: "With the arbitration coming up, we would not have got it done, so it was a mutual agreement to work on a settlement." ohhhh so with the arbitration coming up Lou you had no time left to get it done, i get it, i get it. fvck YOU LOU seriously im so fvcking pissed right now. Thats what you get for waiting LAST fvckING MINUTE LIKE ALWAYS you could have done this long time ago instead of signing every single expandable players on the entire NHL and AHL roster before the most important one. fvck this, Lou waited until it was too late to fire MacLean and then Parise. and i dont want to hear anyone taking Lou's side on this one, he admitted that he may have been too patient with Maclean and that it turned out real bad... in July were gonna lose Parise and Lou will be fired. BOOK IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin226 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Oh please...they had MONTHS to work on a deal now! If it's not going to hapen now it sure isn't going to happen in January. And now Lou'll have to pay a king's ransom to keep him in the offseason when he's bidding against everyone else. And now I have to wonder wtf we traded Rolston for anyway? Unless it was a favor by Lou to get him out of a place he wasn't wanted. Did you read my post?! Lou had less room for Zach this season.. He has more next season.. So he is signing him to a low 1 year deal now so that he can fit Zach in, and giving him bigger bucks for the long term deal which will get done in 2012.. If you're Zach do you take (for instance): Deal 1: - 1 year @ $6 mil - 10 years @ $7.5 mil Deal 2: - 11 years @ $6.75 mil I'm suggesting that Zach took deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam85491 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I love everyone saying "hopefully the sign a ten year extension, blah blah blah" Let's wait and see what the fvcking guy does first. You don't hand out 100 million dollar contracts to people who haven't played consistently on almost a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 If it was just about the injury they should have just given him the one-year offer weeks ago, kept Rolston and avoided this dog and pony show. Either Zach wants every last penny, doesn't want to stay or the ownership money issues are true. There's no other reason for it to have come to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pumpkin cutter Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Lamoriello: "With the arbitration coming up, we would not have got it done, so it was a mutual agreement to work on a settlement." ohhhh so with the arbitration coming up Lou you had no time left to get it done, i get it, i get it. fvck YOU LOU seriously im so fvcking pissed right now. Thats what you get for waiting LAST fvckING MINUTE LIKE ALWAYS you could have done this long time ago instead of signing every single expandable players on the entire NHL and AHL roster before the most important one. fvck this, Lou waited until it was too late to fire MacLean and then Parise. and i dont want to hear anyone taking Lou's side on this one, he admitted that he may have been too patient with Maclean and that it turned out real bad... in July were gonna lose Parise and Lou will be fired. BOOK IT What Happens if Mr. Parise blows his knee out few months in? Do you really wanna get Dp'd like the islanders? Let's see him play before we start hating the world. If Zach tears it up next year and we don't sign him, then I will complain.. As of now, I agree with uncle lou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArmySports Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Lamoriello: "With the arbitration coming up, we would not have got it done, so it was a mutual agreement to work on a settlement." ohhhh so with the arbitration coming up Lou you had no time left to get it done, i get it, i get it. fvck YOU LOU seriously im so fvcking pissed right now. Thats what you get for waiting LAST fvckING MINUTE LIKE ALWAYS you could have done this long time ago instead of signing every single expandable players on the entire NHL and AHL roster before the most important one. fvck this, Lou waited until it was too late to fire MacLean and then Parise. and i dont want to hear anyone taking Lou's side on this one, he admitted that he may have been too patient with Maclean and that it turned out real bad... in July were gonna lose Parise and Lou will be fired. BOOK IT Most Emotional Post nominee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 come on with the bullsh!t that Lou wanted a "test half season" to see how Zach was doing... Lou said his plan was to sign Zach long-term... ran out of time and FAILED seriously guys you cant deny that, he FAILED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin226 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 how the hell can you be so nonchalant about this? this isn't just a "God fvckin' damnit, we missed out on re-signing Gomez and now we didn't get a return". This is Parise, the face of the franchise, the kind of player that gets drafted once in a decade (or once in 4 decades if you're on the other side of the hudson). He fits the "devils mold" to a t, he plays with more grit heart and determination than I've ever seen, and if Deboer's new system allows Zach to score the way we all KNOW Zach can, there's now a VERY good chance that we lose a 40+ goal scorer entering his prime for NOTHING. Unless a deal is worked out WELL before the summer next year, this is Lou's first step out the fvcking door. Yes, if we lose Zach then Lou might lose his job.. But in my post a page earlier I detail why this 1 year deal could have occured and it's not so bad if Lou signs him long term in the end.. Helps us this season and gets Zach more cash in the long run.. How is that not good for both parties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam85491 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Lamoriello: "With the arbitration coming up, we would not have got it done, so it was a mutual agreement to work on a settlement." ohhhh so with the arbitration coming up Lou you had no time left to get it done, i get it, i get it. fvck YOU LOU seriously im so fvcking pissed right now. Thats what you get for waiting LAST fvckING MINUTE LIKE ALWAYS you could have done this long time ago instead of signing every single expandable players on the entire NHL and AHL roster before the most important one. fvck this, Lou waited until it was too late to fire MacLean and then Parise. and i dont want to hear anyone taking Lou's side on this one, he admitted that he may have been too patient with Maclean and that it turned out real bad... in July were gonna lose Parise and Lou will be fired. BOOK IT Change your god damn tampon. You're a grown man, this is fvcking pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoArmySports Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I'm 100% sure that everyone here on the boards could of signed him long term...with that being said I trust Lou and hopefully he has something up his sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parisalchuk Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 What Happens if Mr. Parise blows his knee out few months in? Do you really wanna get Dp'd like the islanders? Let's see him play before we start hating the world. If Zach tears it up next year and we don't sign him, then I will complain.. As of now, I agree with uncle lou. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Again, if it was about the injury then why not give him the one-year deal at season's end instead of going through this months-long charade? You guys are giving Lou too much credit here, this is inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Great Job Lou. Bravo. fvcking bravo. There's no fvcking excuse for this sh!t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 how the hell can you be so nonchalant about this? this isn't just a "God fvckin' damnit, we missed out on re-signing Gomez and now we didn't get a return". This is Parise, the face of the franchise, the kind of player that gets drafted once in a decade (or once in 4 decades if you're on the other side of the hudson). He fits the "devils mold" to a t, he plays with more grit heart and determination than I've ever seen, and if Deboer's new system allows Zach to score the way we all KNOW Zach can, there's now a VERY good chance that we lose a 40+ goal scorer entering his prime for NOTHING. we don't know zach can. he played 1 game after his injury. are you comfortable giving him a 10 year deal based on that? i would be, but at something like 10-65 at most. if i'm zach, i think i can get 12-100 next year. that's a wide money disparity. Unless a deal is worked out WELL before the summer next year, this is Lou's first step out the fvcking door. ownership is responsible for signing these big deals, not GMs. the deals will extend beyond the GMs tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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