SterioDesign Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 per RealKyper... Derick Brassard's agent has confirmed that Brassard has voiced his displeasure with the #CBJ team and is requesting a trade. #nhl do we even want to look into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Soo...I've acquired Brassard in NHL 10-12..IT'S A SIGN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Soo...I've acquired Brassard in NHL 10-12..IT'S A SIGN That's a long season there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 No; the Devils don't have a hole at center and Brassard stinks. I have no idea who will trade for Brassard - maybe Columbus deals Brassard and Mason for Scott Gomez? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justdo3043 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 per RealKyper... Derick Brassard's agent has confirmed that Brassard has voiced his displeasure with the #CBJ team and is requesting a trade. #nhl do we even want to look into this? i want to look at the avatar....who's face is in the backround....like to think its a lou staredown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 No; the Devils don't have a hole at center and Brassard stinks. I have no idea who will trade for Brassard - maybe Columbus deals Brassard and Mason for Scott Gomez? Stinks is certainly harsh, he has run pretty unlucky this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Stinks is certainly harsh, he has run pretty unlucky this season. Brassard has played super soft minutes in his career, some of the softest in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=381740 Player agent Allan Walsh released a statement on Thursday, slamming Columbus Blue Jackets head coach Scott Arniel.Walsh is none pleased with his client, Columbus Blue Jackets forward Derick Brassard, spending so much time in the press box as a healthy scratch. "While I have tremendous respect for Scott Howson and the rest of Columbus' management team, the situation regarding Derick Brassard has become untenable," Walsh wrote. "This coach has a history of burying players and using them as scapegoats to mask his own lack of success on the ice. Derick has been singled out, almost from the very beginning of the season to be the fall guy in case things don't go well. The Columbus organization cares about Derick and has been good to him, but at some point enough is enough." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Brassard has played super soft minutes in his career, some of the softest in the league. This year that isn't the case. His zone starts at 58% and relative QOC corsi is a positive. That puts him in line with most 2nd lines in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fan Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Salvador (2.9M) for Brassard (3.2M). More importantly, Brassard is signed through couple more years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam85491 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Salvador (2.9M) for Brassard (3.2M). More importantly, Brassard is signed through couple more years. Salvador has been terrible, so I guess this means Brassard really sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fan Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Salvador has been terrible, so I guess this means Brassard really sucks. He has one good year under his belt and average at best for the rest of his career. However, I think he is young enough to turn things around if he changes place. Plus, COlumbus is losing money and this helps them financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I definitely wouldn't mind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Brassard would be a good pick-up at our weakest position: Center. But again, I don't think we can afford him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 But again, I don't think we can afford him. Well if there was ever a time to inquire about him it'd be now. Id imagine his value is as low as it's gonna go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) This year that isn't the case. His zone starts at 58% and relative QOC corsi is a positive. That puts him in line with most 2nd lines in the NHL. This is where stats get you in trouble - Brassard does not yet have the ice time where we can conclude anything significant about his competition. What we do know is that Brassard's zone starts have been ridiculously high for every year of his career. Also the notion that NJ is weak at center is laughable. What would be done with Brassard after Zajac comes back? Edited December 2, 2011 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Brassard would be a good pick-up at our weakest position: Center. But again, I don't think we can afford him. Absolute and utter nonsense. Henrique, Elias, Carter. When they come back Zajac and Josefson. We're week on RW and Defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 This is where stats get you in trouble - Brassard does not yet have the ice time where we can conclude anything significant about his competition. What we do know is that Brassard's zone starts have been ridiculously high for every year of his career. Also the notion that NJ is weak at center is laughable. What would be done with Brassard after Zajac comes back? i dont think we're weak, were pretty average IMO... to me we Pens, Flyers, Hawks, Red Wings, Bolts, Cannucks, Kings and the Sharks have the best depth down the middle... while i think we're somewhat on par with teams like wild, Canes, Caps, Avs, Rangers, Islanders, Blues then i think we have a better depth than the Habs, Preds, Jets, Oilers, Ducks, Stars, Sabres, Sens, Panthers, Coyotes, Blue Jackets, Flames and the Leafs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95Crash Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Maybe we should steer clear of a player whose agent goes whining to the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) Maybe we should steer clear of a player whose agent goes whining to the media. He's also Petr Sykora's agent. i dont think we're weak, were pretty average IMO... to me we Pens, Flyers, Hawks, Red Wings, Bolts, Cannucks, Kings and the Sharks have the best depth down the middle... That's because they have BETTER players, but we are talking about depth. There's not a team on that list that wouldn't suffer greatly if they lost two of their top three centers. With Elias and Zajac, it's basically like having two Selke-quality centers - they won't pile up the points, especially not on the power play, but they're both going to keep the puck in the offensive zone and out of the defensive zone. Also, the Bruins clearly have the best depth down the middle and you don't even list them. Edited December 2, 2011 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bibby89 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Completely agree with the exception of Pit, they were without their top 2 centers and in some freakish way, kept winning. every other team on that list would be in the same boat as the Devils. I'm fine with them just hanging around the playoff picture right now until they get healthy, it'll come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 (edited) He's also Petr Sykora's agent. That's because they have BETTER players, but we are talking about depth. There's not a team on that list that wouldn't suffer greatly if they lost two of their top three centers. With Elias and Zajac, it's basically like having two Selke-quality centers - they won't pile up the points, especially not on the power play, but they're both going to keep the puck in the offensive zone and out of the defensive zone. Also, the Bruins clearly have the best depth down the middle and you don't even list them. yeah they we're on my list that i did to compare teams, just forgot to put them. But i based my post on depth actually and even on future players not in the NHL yet that i know of... a few could be missing though, and like you said obviously if you take out 2 of their 3 top centers some of those top teams are in deep trouble Pens: Crosby, Malkin, Staal, Park Chicago: Toews, Kane, Bolland Bruins: Bergeron, Krejci, Kelly Flyers: Giroux, Briere, Schenn, Couturier, Talbot Red Wings: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Helm Bolts: Stamkos, Lecavalier, Moore Cannucks: Kesler, Sedin, Hodgson, Lapierre Kings: Kopitar, Richards, Loktionov Sharks: Thornton, Couture, Handzuz Devils: Zajac, Elias, Josefson, Henrique Wild: Koivu, Brodziak, Cullen (Granlund) Canes: Staal, Sutter, Jokinen (Zalpe) Caps: Backstrom, Laich, Johansson Blues: Backes, Berglund, Arnott Avs: Stastny, O'Reilly, Galiardi Islanders: Tavares, Nielson, Bailey (Cizikas and Strome) Rangers: Richards, Stepan, Dubinsky, Boyle Habs: Plekanec, Desharnais, Gomez, Eller Preds: Fisher, Legwand, Spaling Jets: Little, Antropov, Burmistrov (Scheifele) Oilers: Horcoff, RNH, Belanger Ducks: Getzlaf, Koivu, Maxwell, Macenauer Stars: Ribeiro, Benn, Fiddler Sabres: Roy, Gaustad, Hecht Sens: Spezza, Foligno, Regin, Da Costa (Zibanejad) Florida: Weiss, Goc, Stantorelli (Huberdeau) Coyotes: Hanzal, Landkow, Turris, Gordon Leafs: Connolly, Grabovsky, Bozak, Steckel Blue Jackets: Carter, Pahlsson Flames: Jokinen, Backlund, Stajanm, Moss Edited December 2, 2011 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95Crash Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 He's also Petr Sykora's agent. OK, I did not know that. But didn't Sykkie take it upon himself this past summer to put the word in to Lou that he would love to come back here? What was his agent going to say to that? No, hold out for a better deal? I'll admit, I don't know all that much about Brassard. But unless the player is a superstar, it doesn't look too good when the agent spouts off about playing time like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 This is where stats get you in trouble - Brassard does not yet have the ice time where we can conclude anything significant about his competition. What we do know is that Brassard's zone starts have been ridiculously high for every year of his career. Also the notion that NJ is weak at center is laughable. What would be done with Brassard after Zajac comes back? If we are going to play like that, over the course of 2 seasons these sabremetrics still don't have the sample size to conclude anything. These numbers are the same as concluding anything with Comeau's statistics or Fayne's statistics to date. They are small sample sizes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 i dont think we're weak, were pretty average Zajac is our only experienced quality center. Elias is a natural wing and while Henrique is doing well he is still a rookie. Having Zajac and Brassard gives us a huge upgrade on the first two lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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