ThreeCups Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Anyone else get the vibe that Parise keeps saying "the Devils are still in it" just to save some face with Devils fans, etc? I just get that feeling. If I were him, I would do the same exact thing just so Devils fans don't totally hate me for the entirety of this thing and well into the future. Imagine what would happen if he came out and said "and I have eliminated the Devils from my list"...PEOPLE WOULD GO INSANE. I think it's a PR move, personally. I agree 100%. I read the quotes from when he spoke to the press, but later last night when I got home I saw the video of it. He seemed in a weird mood, and seemed to me that he was trying to deal with the reality that he is going to leave the Devils and is regretting making the announcement. I hope I am wrong and he signs today, but his gum-chewing nervous interview did not look good to me AT ALL.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I agree 100%. I read the quotes from when he spoke to the press, but later last night when I got home I saw the video of it. He seemed in a weird mood, and seemed to me that he was trying to deal with the reality that he is going to leave the Devils and is regretting making the announcement. I hope I am wrong and he signs today, but his gum-chewing nervous interview did not look good to me AT ALL.... NOW YOU GOT IT. Someone has a grasp on reality here...SMOKE AND MIRRORS, folks. MINDfvck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 To be honest, the longer this takes and goes on, the more I really don't care if he leaves. I don't think he's going to live up to the contract at this point. I just hope he makes a descision one way or the other today. I think the longer this takes the better the chances of the Devils re-signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 To be honest, the longer this takes and goes on, the more I really don't care if he leaves. I don't think he's going to live up to the contract at this point. I just hope he makes a descision one way or the other today. Kind of in the same mindset, to tell you the truth. I didn't think he was going to live up to his deal before all of this began...he's a good-to-very good player, but it looks like GMs once again can't help themselves, and feel the need to lavish superstar dollars on a player that clearly isn't one. I'm obviously not against him coming back if the price is somewhere in the vicinity of reasonable, but I'm definitely becoming indifferent about it in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I agree 100%. I read the quotes from when he spoke to the press, but later last night when I got home I saw the video of it. He seemed in a weird mood, and seemed to me that he was trying to deal with the reality that he is going to leave the Devils and is regretting making the announcement. I hope I am wrong and he signs today, but his gum-chewing nervous interview did not look good to me AT ALL.... I really think this is reading into it too much. Remember how people ripped the poster here earlier in the season when they said they talked to Zach and he could see it in Zach's eyes that he was leaving? How is this any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giodude Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm still a little worried that the Devils website doesnt have anything about Parise on the front page, it's as if they know he's not coming back IMO. Hopefully I'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm still a little worried that the Devils website doesnt have anything about Parise on the front page, it's as if they know he's not coming back IMO. Hopefully I'm wrong The Devils website is pretty useless for anything. I wouldn't put too much stock into that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm still a little worried that the Devils website doesnt have anything about Parise on the front page, it's as if they know he's not coming back IMO. Hopefully I'm wrong what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleasepassthesoup Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm not sure why people are acting like this has dragged on a long time. Free agency began on Sunday. It's still only Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Rich Chere @Ledger_NJDevils For those knocking Parise's "anything is possible" comment, he says the UFA process has been extremely stressful. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite The guy is out of here...he is torn and he is afraid to leave NJ and is stressed out about the decision. Dude is bugging right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) The guy is out of here...he is torn and he is afraid to leave NJ and is stressed out about the decision. Dude is bugging right now. Yesss...yesss, let the guilt set in. Edited July 3, 2012 by Zubie#8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroGravityFat Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm not sure why people are acting like this has dragged on a long time. Free agency began on Sunday. It's still only Tuesday. Because we wanted Lou to lock him up since last year, so technically it's been over a year. People are getting mad that we can't seem to lock him up eventhough he was given captaincy and evidently the best record in the eastern conference in 1.5 seasons with promising youth, pretty much everything he asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
third man in Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm not sure why people are acting like this has dragged on a long time. Free agency began on Sunday. It's still only Tuesday. We live in a world of instant gratification...he must sign now! Zach can take as long as he wants...this is a big decision, but it is holding up the rest of free agency which is frustrating if you're a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yesss...yesss, let the guilt set in. What guilt though? I don't get this whole "guilt" thing? "Zachy baby, we are poorrrrrrrrrrrr, please give us a discount...we are brokeeeee baby" I am sure that's gonna work...NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Kind of in the same mindset, to tell you the truth. I didn't think he was going to live up to his deal before all of this began...he's a good-to-very good player, but it looks like GMs once again can't help themselves, and feel the need to lavish superstar dollars on a player that clearly isn't one. I'm obviously not against him coming back if the price is somewhere in the vicinity of reasonable, but I'm definitely becoming indifferent about it in a hurry. It's the way he talks in the interview I saw yesterday and the whole "list" thing that bothers me. Either you want to come back here or you don't. This Devils team has survived losing a lot better players then Parise and we will be fine without him. I'd like Parise to stay for a fair contract but we'll see. With the way the economy is today, having to hear this millionaire making like it's such a hard decision to make even more millions of dollars really starts to rub me the wrong way, especially when it keeps dragging on and on. It's a lot easier to ignore these facts during the rest of the year. Rich Chere @Ledger_NJDevils For those knocking Parise's "anything is possible" comment, he says the UFA process has been extremely stressful. Expand Reply Retweet Favorite The guy is out of here...he is torn and he is afraid to leave NJ and is stressed out about the decision. Dude is bugging right now. Boooo fvckingggg hoooo. I'm gonna make millions of dollars. Such a hard decision. The more I hear from Parise the more he sounds like a diva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) What guilt though? I don't get this whole "guilt" thing? "Zachy baby, we are poorrrrrrrrrrrr, please give us a discount...we are brokeeeee baby" I am sure that's gonna work...NOT Edit: You're annoying. Edited July 3, 2012 by Zubie#8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) It's the way he talks in the interview I saw yesterday and the whole "list" thing that bothers me. Either you want to come back here or you don't. This Devils team has survived losing a lot better players then Parise and we will be fine without him. That's ridiculous. There's a lot of factors at play here. Bonus money. Being able to play in his hometown. Etc. etc. He's deciding where he's going to spend at least the next 5 years of his life. And he's spent his entire life focused on hockey. With the way the economy is today, having to hear this millionaire making like it's such a hard decision to make even more millions of dollars really starts to rub me the wrong way, especially when it keeps dragging on and on. It's a lot easier to ignore these facts during the rest of the year. That's precisely why it is such a hard decision - no matter which way he goes, he ends up fabulously wealthy. So it's about other factors - quality of life, quality of team, all these things that are difficult to measure. Joe Blow's life has nothing to do with Zach Parise's and vice versa - it's his decision, and he can take as much time with it as he likes. Would you feel the same way if some CEO hemmed and hawed about buying or selling a particular stock? Of course not. But people feel like they own athletes - it's part of why they're so well-compensated. Boooo fvckingggg hoooo. I'm gonna make millions of dollars. Such a hard decision. The more I hear from Parise the more he sounds like a diva. Didn't hear much of this about Ilya Kovalchuk. I don't blame Parise for feeling stressed - it seems like a really important decision. Edited July 3, 2012 by Triumph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I wake up this morning thinking the Devils offer is "competitive" but not competitive enough. I think the Devils are asking him to give up a lot of money to come back here, more than he's comfortable with and he's having second thoughts, feeling guilty about leaving. If the Devils offer was competitive he would've signed here by now. We aren't making it easy on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyP. Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 CAPTAIN ZACH PARISE NEW JERSEY DEVILS JUST STAY, JUST ANNOUNCE THAT YOU'RE STAYING IN NEW JERSEY :koolaid: :koolaid: :koolaid: :koolaid: :koolaid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Do you even root for this team? It's really hard to tell. Yup. But unlike 90% of the rest of the shills on this board, I am realistic and I take a hard-line approach to my sports fanhood. I have MULTIPLE times mentioned that I am a die-hard Jets fan (season tickets since 1988) and it is just in my blood to be a pessimistic, down in the dumps, nothing good will happen type fan. I fully understand the Devils and Jets are two entirely different franchises with far different histories and achievements, but I just am very hard on my teams and it takes me a lot to get optimistic about something when one of my teams is involved. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikepeluso8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Edit: You're annoying. Thanks. Mission accomplished. This board is too quiet and too boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 That's ridiculous. There's a lot of factors at play here. Bonus money. Being able to play in his hometown. Etc. etc. He's deciding where he's going to spend at least the next 5 years of his life. And he's spent his entire life focused on hockey. That's precisely why it is such a hard decision - no matter which way he goes, he ends up fabulously wealthy. So it's about other factors - quality of life, quality of team, all these things that are difficult to measure. Joe Blow's life has nothing to do with Zach Parise's and vice versa - it's his decision, and he can take as much time with it as he likes. Would you feel the same way if some CEO hemmed and hawed about buying or selling a particular stock? Of course not. But people feel like they own athletes - it's part of why they're so well-compensated. Didn't hear much of this about Ilya Kovalchuk. I don't blame Parise for feeling stressed - it seems like a really important decision. Just my personal view. Every year free agency always makes me wonder why I even give a sh!t about these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm not sure why people are acting like this has dragged on a long time. Free agency began on Sunday. It's still only Tuesday. That is 100% true...it hasn't even been 48 hrs yet. I think most are frustrated only because Zach made it sound like he really wanted to be here, so I think a lot of fans took that to mean that this was going to get done very quickly...now that it's taking a little longer, people starting to pick apart everything he says and does, trying to see something that may or may not be there. I doubt even Zach knew how all of this was going to shake out...I saw his clip yesterday too, and I actually saw him as a guy who's probably getting tired of all of this (and the questions that come with it), but is trying not to rush his decision, and is really trying to understand it all...easy to forget that he's a player, not an agent or a lawyer, and some of the legal-ese and lawyer/agent speak in these offers might be overwhelming for him. I think I'm just getting indifferent because though I like Zach a lot, I don't think the franchise falls apart without him here. Teams recover and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I wake up this morning thinking the Devils offer is "competitive" but not competitive enough. I think the Devils are asking him to give up a lot of money to come back here, more than he's comfortable with and he's having second thoughts, feeling guilty about leaving. If the Devils offer was competitive he would've signed here by now. We aren't making it easy on him. I don't think it's that - I bet the Devils offer is 'competitive', meaning that while it has some up front bonus, it's not massively front-loaded. So time-value-of-money wise it's well behind the other deals, but I don't think that's an enormous sticking point. And then Zach has to consider if the Devils can afford to put other guys around him. I bet if Vanderbeek weren't wearing a barrel as clothes it'd be done already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 (edited) Just my personal view. Every year free agency always makes me wonder why I even give a sh!t about these guys. I respect the Carters, the Giontas, Berniers of the NHL who have to work their butt off every shift to earn a chance to stay in the NHL, the rest not so much. Edited July 3, 2012 by Zubie#8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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