ATLL765 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 +Elias/-Volchenkov Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 Patrik Elias------------- 16 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 13Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Stephen Gionta------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Krys Barch-------------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8Matt D'Agostini--------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6Anton Volchenkov---- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangersSuck23 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Volch (-1) Lokti (+1) Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 Patrik Elias------------- 16 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Stephen Gionta------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Krys Barch-------------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8Matt D'Agostini--------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6Anton Volchenkov---- 0 In conclusion, Volch has not survived Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 Updated: Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 Patrik Elias------------- 16 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Stephen Gionta------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Krys Barch-------------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8Matt D'Agostini--------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Eliminated ! Bryce SalvadorAnton Volchenkov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWW Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 + D'Agostini/- Gionta Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 Patrik Elias------------- 16 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 9 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Krys Barch-------------- 9 Stephen Gionta------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomsRiverDevil Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Barch - useless Elias + king of kings Patrik Elias------------- 17 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 9 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9 Krys Barch-------------- 8 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Eliminated ! Bryce SalvadorAnton Volchenkov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Rattlehead18 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 kovalchuk - elias + Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 15 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 9 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9 Krys Barch-------------- 8 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Eliminated ! Bryce SalvadorAnton Volchenkov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 From what I can gather, we last played this in 2010... where Elias won. Eventually we drop the +1/-1 and move to +1/-3 etc; otherwise you'd get stuck in a Kovy/Elias/Brodeur etc standoff of +/- 1 http://njdevs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62496&hl=survivor&page=24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (-) Barch (+) D'agostini Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 15 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 10 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Krys Barch-------------- 7 Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 + Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 10 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Harri Pesonen--------- 7 Krys Barch-------------- 6 - Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 17 + Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 12Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 10 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 7- Harri Pesonen--------- 7 Krys Barch-------------- 6 Johan Hedberg-------- 6 Edited May 1, 2013 by ghdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Clarkson + because you all are mean and Marty - because it's fun to attack the star (if I really thought he comprehended the quality of play he's putting out there, I think I'd go easier on him. but there is just this whiff of entitlement I kind of would like to snuff out of the guy. We get to say who's entitled you don't get to dub yourself entitled) Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 15 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 13Adam Henrique-------- 12 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom------10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 10 Martin Brodeur-------- 9 Alexei Ponikarovsky--- 9Stephen Gionta--------- 9 Marek Zidlicky---------- 8 Henrik Tallinder------8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 8 Krys Barch--------------- 7 Harri Pesonen---------- 7Johan Hedberg--------- 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Last two need to edit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Let me ask everyone here something: What is your problem with Barch? I don't get it. He's no sniper, obviously, but he doesn't sh!t the bed that much and he skates well for a guy like him. I think he's the best goon type we've had since Rupp. We need one around to play the Rags and Philly, so why not keep one who's not awful like Kostopolous or some of the other crap we've had in that spot over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Let me ask everyone here something: What is your problem with Barch? I don't get it. He's no sniper, obviously, but he doesn't sh!t the bed that much and he skates well for a guy like him. I think he's the best goon type we've had since Rupp. We need one around to play the Rags and Philly, so why not keep one who's not awful like Kostopolous or some of the other crap we've had in that spot over the years. It's a popularity contest... we lost Sal and Volch over fringe Devils; because they are the popular ones to hate right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted May 1, 2013 Author Share Posted May 1, 2013 From what I can gather, we last played this in 2010... where Elias won. Eventually we drop the +1/-1 and move to +1/-3 etc; otherwise you'd get stuck in a Kovy/Elias/Brodeur etc standoff of +/- 1 http://njdevs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=62496&hl=survivor&page=24 It scares me that you went back and found that!! When was the 1st Devils Survivor?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 It's a popularity contest... we lost Sal and Volch over fringe Devils; because they are the popular ones to hate right now. I get that, but somebody posted that Barch is useless. I disagree. He's not useless. He has limited use, but he works well in that limited scope. To call him useless is just not understanding how bad some other team's goons are. I mean, who here is not happy that Barch meant Cam got basically no NHL time this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I get that, but somebody posted that Barch is useless. I disagree. He's not useless. He has limited use, but he works well in that limited scope. To call him useless is just not understanding how bad some other team's goons are. I mean, who here is not happy that Barch meant Cam got basically no NHL time this year? I forgot who but a pretty reliable hockey writer on twitter posted either in feb or march that Barch was going around bad mouthing the devils to others and said he didn't want to be on the team anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMazz Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Patrik Elias------------- 18Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Adam Henrique-------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 13Dainius Zubrus-------- 12Steve Bernier---------- 12Travis Zajac------------ 11Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10Matt D'Agostini--------- 10Martin Brodeur-------- 10Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9Marek Zidlicky-------- 8Henrik Tallinder-------- 8Tom Kostopoulos------ 7Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 6Krys Barch-------------- 5 Marty + 1 Tommy K - 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLL765 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 I forgot who but a pretty reliable hockey writer on twitter posted either in feb or march that Barch was going around bad mouthing the devils to others and said he didn't want to be on the team anymore. Well, if that was true, that would certainly change my thoughts on him. Still doesn't change that I think he's a better hockey player than most of the goons we've had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aylbert Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) It scares me that you went back and found that!! When was the 1st Devils Survivor?? http://njdevs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=32750&hl=+devils%20+survivor&page=27 Look's like 2007 to me; started by dr33; SteveStevens ended it: Brodeur: 118 (+1) Zach Parise: 0 (-1) My favorite part: EagleJelly points out we started with 105 pts; but Marty wound up with 118. TheLastIOneAlive delivers a brilliant rebuttal: "Anyone claiming to be a math whiz on this board is probably a liar." The real survivor contest from 2007: Martin Brodeur: 3 Kevin Weekes: 3 Andy Greene: 3 Paul Martin: 3 Richard Matvichuk: 3 Johnny Oduya: 3 Karel Rachunek: 3 Vitaly Vishnevski: 3 Colin White: 3 Arron Asham: 3 Nicklas Bergfors: 3 Sergei Brylin: 3 Patrik Elias: 3 Brian Gionta: 3 Cam Janssen: 3 Cam Janssen: 3 [back from the dead; kinda] Jamie Langenbrunner: 3 John Madden: 3 Jay Pandolfo: 3 Zach Parise: 3 Mike Rupp: 3 Jari Viuhkola: 3 Travis Zajac: 3 Dainius Zubrus: 3 David Clarkson: 3 Brent Sutter: 3 John MacLean: 3 Larry Robinson: 3 Tommy Albelin: 3 Jacques Caron: 3 Jeff Vanderbeek: 3 Lou Lamoriello: 3 David Conte: 3 Doc Emrick: 3 Chico Resch: 3 Matt Loughlin: 3 Edited May 1, 2013 by aylbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Let me ask everyone here something: What is your problem with Barch? I don't get it. He's no sniper, obviously, but he doesn't sh!t the bed that much and he skates well for a guy like him. I think he's the best goon type we've had since Rupp. We need one around to play the Rags and Philly, so why not keep one who's not awful like Kostopolous or some of the other crap we've had in that spot over the years. I agree, Barch didn't look so bad in the games he played. I'd take him over Janssen and Kostopoulos anyday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) Patrik Elias------------- 18Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Adam Henrique-------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 13Dainius Zubrus-------- 12Steve Bernier---------- 12Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Travis Zajac------------ 10Jacob Josefson------- 10Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10Matt D'Agostini--------- 10Martin Brodeur-------- 10Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 9Marek Zidlicky-------- 8Henrik Tallinder-------- 8Tom Kostopoulos------ 7Harri Pesonen--------- 7Johan Hedberg-------- 7Krys Barch-------------- 5 ---------------------- Hedberg +1 Zajac -1 Edited May 1, 2013 by devlman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 16 Andy Greene---------- 14 Andrei Loktionov------ 14 Adam Larsson--------- 13 Adam Henrique-------- 13 Ryan Carter------------ 13 David Clarkson-------- 13 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12 Mark Fayne------------ 11 Peter Harrold---------- 11 Jacob Josefson------------ 11 Travis Zajac------- 10 Steve Sullivan--------- 10 Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 10 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9 Stephen Gionta------- 8 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Henrik Tallinder-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 7 Harri Pesonen--------- 7 Johan Hedberg-------- 7 Krys Barch-------------- 5 ---------------------- Josefson +1 Gionta -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 Not DPing, just fixing to what it should be because of the confusion after ghdi. Correct current list: Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 17 Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 13Adam Henrique-------- 13 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Jacob Josefson------- 11 Travis Zajac------------ 10 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini--------- 10 Alexei Ponikarovsky-- 9Stephen Gionta------- 8 Marek Zidlicky-------- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 7 Henrik Tallinder-------- 7 Harri Pesonen--------- 7 Johan Hedberg-------- 7 Krys Barch-------------- 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 (edited) (-) Poni (+) Zidlicky Patrik Elias------------- 18 Ilya Kovalchuk--------- 17Andy Greene---------- 14Andrei Loktionov------ 14Adam Larsson--------- 13Ryan Carter------------ 13David Clarkson-------- 13Adam Henrique-------- 13 Dainius Zubrus-------- 12 Steve Bernier---------- 12 Mark Fayne------------ 11Peter Harrold---------- 11 Jacob Josefson------- 11 Travis Zajac------------ 10 Martin Brodeur-------- 10 Steve Sullivan--------- 10Alexander Urbom-----10 Matt D'Agostini---------10 Marek Zidlicky --------- 9Stephen Gionta-------- 8 Alexei Ponikarovsky--- 8 Tom Kostopoulos------ 7 Henrik Tallinder-------- 7 Harri Pesonen--------- 7 Johan Hedberg-------- 7 Krys Barch-------------- 5 Edited May 1, 2013 by Zubie#8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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