devilsrule33 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I guess, and I know GMs don't watch a ton of hockey, but Clarkson is just not a good fit with that sort of player. I'm really not sure what kind of player he clicks with, if any. It's going to be a wake up call for any fanbase to see how Clarkson operates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Elias has made a career of making his linemates be productive and appear better than they are. Clarkson is no exception and I don't see Clarkson being any better than he has been these last two yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Honestly, in 4-5 years we may look back and be able to say that letting Clarkson and Parise go we're the two best decisions Lou ever made.. Both are gonna have a really tough time as they surpass their 30s... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) I think Clarkson is a very self aware player - he's best when he takes charge. but he's not all that confident in reality, so once it dawns on him he' sin charge he kind of chokes, he loses focus and starts watching himself play. (Maybe he is a good fit in Ottawa). When he's committed to following, in that he's letting a star linemate take over, he also loses focus. What he needs is simple confidence and trust in himself beyond as far as he's taken it. What's odd is I suspect what he considers his strong suit has actually turned into his limitation at this point. I don't think he's going to get out from under that any where - NJ included, so what you see is what you get. Unless he's just SO trapped that he's all he's got and has to fight his way out of it, I dont see him growing much more as a player. Linemates won't do it, I don't think. PEPPERKORN SIDEBAR - no need to read I'm just putting it out there. The whole problem is that in his wildest dreams - THIS is as far as Clarkson has taken it. Our dreams honestly hone our future and set our limitations. He's gone no further than this - being desired in the NHL. It's funny how you guys dont understand these things. I feel like no one here has (withe sincerity) chased an unrealistic dream or maybe you're in the process and can't face up to certain things about the climb up. because it's where the truth of it all lies - the intangibles that actually make or break a team. Conte would get it. I can tell by his quotes he totally gets it - what it is to be at the very top echelon and how you got there and what it takes to stay -- or rather what choices you are going to be capable of making... to SEE when you are really there faced with these choices. I actually don't think life/career choices are the same at every level of life. The investment in a sports of performing career is very different than the investment in a career in science or something. You guys really can't empathize because you don't do that - you can't imagine - WANTING to be is the difference in the thinking -- well actually it's how far you want to take it - setting the benchmarks. Not the leg work but the dream and the choice to go for it to commit to it- and how far you take that choice without taoing through it. Like Scott Stevens knowing he HAD to be IN THE NHL right at the get go -- because he knew where he had to take it. Parise, Matteau -- these guys know where they have to take it thanks to their family. Clarkson knew just up to this point - and now that's it. Gomez knew up to the signing with the Rags point... and that was it (I wrote so at the time - how it was that stupid apartment - an adolescent dream that he stalled on). I wish you all understood what that's like. It's not a simple thing - to brush this stuff aside, you know... it's just working half blind. Edited July 5, 2013 by Pepperkorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifer91 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) Maybe Clarkson was laughed at by the interested teams when he asked for 6mil and was like, "I guess I'll just stay in Jersey." I was thinking the same thing. Interview goes well until he says his demands. I really can't see any intelligent GM giving him that, nevermind laughing in his face. Now the ball is in your call jackass agent. Elias has made a career of making his linemates be productive and appear better than they are. Clarkson is no exception and I don't see Clarkson being any better than he has been these last two yrs. This x1000. That is the kind of player Elias is. Edited July 5, 2013 by lucifer91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 How many players has Elias built up only to have crash without him: just recently we've had Bergfors, Sykora, Gionta, Gomez, and now Clarkson. Elias just doesn't get paid enough turning straw players into another fool's gold. I am hearing Clarkson to Toronto for 7 years at $6.0 million per season. Elias should get a percentage of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 2m RT @DarrenDreger: Little doubt David Clarkson will get a 7 year term. Some gm's think he will get $6 mil or higher per Absolute, utter lunacy. I give it 2 years before he's bought out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 2m RT @DarrenDreger: Little doubt David Clarkson will get a 7 year term. Some gm's think he will get $6 mil or higher per Absolute, utter lunacy. I give it 2 years before he's bought out. i can't believe I'm seeing this, someone needs to lose his job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsrule33 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 How many players has Elias built up only to have crash without him: just recently we've had Bergfors, Sykora, Gionta, Gomez, and now Clarkson. Elias just doesn't get paid enough turning straw players into another fool's gold. I am hearing Clarkson to Toronto for 7 years at $6.0 million per season. Elias should get a percentage of this. That's ridiculous. Elias has done some good things with a lot of players, but I don't think he is a big factor in Clarkson's goal scoring rise. There wasn't some great chemistry between the two like with Gomez/Gionta and Arnott/Sykora. Pretty unfair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qkG2r_OTp8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Tom Gulitti @TGfireandice 2m RT @DarrenDreger: Little doubt David Clarkson will get a 7 year term. Some gm's think he will get $6 mil or higher per Absolute, utter lunacy. I give it 2 years before he's bought out. I thought that last sentence was part of the tweet, I was about to say OMG... But that was you lol.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 That's ridiculous. Elias has done some good things with a lot of players, but I don't think he is a big factor in Clarkson's goal scoring rise. There wasn't some great chemistry between the two like with Gomez/Gionta and Arnott/Sykora. Pretty unfair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qkG2r_OTp8 You are correct, there was not the same level of chemistry with Clarkson, and yes, it wasn't necessarily as big a factor for his goal scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 is NJ still an option for Clarkson at this point in time? or are we already ruled out after just signing clowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 ottawa is out. he's going to the Leafs it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 7 year offer from Clarkson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 yup he's officially a Leafs now... reports are popping everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 So he ended up where we all thought he would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 7 years for Clarkson is disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 This whole scenario is "Bobby Holik II" Clarkson is a good player, not a great one who has a role when placed with the right coach and situation. He's wasn't so good before DeBoer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepperkorn Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Thank GAWD! Good for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njdevsftw Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 They'll buy him out in 2 years, we'll get him back at a discount. Win win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aznjsn Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Wow 7 yrs. Well I wish him luck, he got a good deal out of it. Wow 7 yrs. Well I wish him luck, he got a good deal out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revan Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Terrible deal. Can't get my head around the love he's getting from the media. I don't think I have ever seen a player so overrated. Kind of sad, because this deal is going to destroy his career. Hope it doesn't. He's a guy you love when he's on your team and probably hate when he's an opponent. Me, I'll remember those Devils years. Good guy, just extremely overpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgb6397 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Two years in a row Lou has broken my heart. I understand and support the move but god dammit this sh!t sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I was a huge fan of Clarkson so I'll miss him but I'm glad the Devils won't be paying that contract. Good for him though, he worked against the odds to get into the league and then made something of himself. This contract should set up his family well so I have no hard feelings towards him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 36.75 over 7 for Clarky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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