GDT Devils @ Canadiens 7:30

[SterioDesign]

so apparently that Daniel Brière is beyond furious with Therrien, he played 7:45 last night and he's been in his doghouse for quite awhile. a source close to him says that he's regretting not picking NJ where he would have been closer to his kids + more money. He went to mtl cause it was his childhood dream but its turning into a nightmare for him. He's struggling sleeping and theres nothing he can do.

 

oh well.

[TheRedStorm]

Marty's 2013-14 save% is down to .906, which is about his norm since 2010-11 overall (I've pointed out the peaks in that time period).  It's .878 in his last five games.  Schneider's save% in his last five is .957.  If Cory hasn't earned the right to play in the next three games (and I think Cory can handle playing in back-to-back games just fine...the guy is friggin' 27 years old and has only played in 12 games this year...not like he's been overworked), then DeBoer is just being flat-out stubborn.  Marty's hot streak was a lot of fun to watch and it's always great to see him play well and add to his win total, and I think he'll have another little streak like that during this season at some point, but that doesn't mean he's earned a goaltending split for the next month, especially when the other guy is stopping pucks and doing it at a terrific rate.   

 

well, they didn't Triumph last night, but maybe trading for a guy like Brent burns or Brent seabrook would help. that is if they don't wind up being traded to Brooklyn and retiring having to write Blogs under the pen name Guy Incognito. 

[Derlique]

so apparently that Daniel Brière is beyond furious with Therrien, he played 7:45 last night and he's been in his doghouse for quite awhile. a source close to him says that he's regretting not picking NJ where he would have been closer to his kids + more money. He went to mtl cause it was his childhood dream but its turning into a nightmare for him. He's struggling sleeping and theres nothing he can do.

oh well.

Thank God he didn't choose NJ

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I cannot understand why so many are complaining we need more offense so we should sit Janssen and sestito. Is tedenby or Boucher on the 4th line for 5 mins a game really going to make a difference offensively?

I guess a lot of people just need someone to point fingers to. News flash- Janssen and sestito didn't necessarily play bad, the barely played at all. 4:18 for Janssen and 7:50 for sestito.

It's frustrating but the plays we should be looking at are the ones we had wide open net but couldn't get it past a defenseman's stick, or the one where Elias couldn't clear the zone which led to borque's goal, or open shots in the slot fired wide.

Stop complaining about cam Janssens 4 mins on the ice like it cost us the game...it had no effect whatsoever.

 

I think people complain about Janssen mostly because they don't think he's any good and don't want to see him become a permanent fixture in the lineup, no matter how little he plays...but the scary thing is that he's put more pucks in the net than some of the "scoring" forwards have recently.  Hell, even with the low number of goals overall, guys like Carter and Bernier pitching in are helping to cover up for the many invisible men who aren't putting pucks in the net (we know who they all are)...it could be a lot worse, especially without the offensive contributions of the Devils' defenseman of late. 

 

 

so apparently that Daniel Brière is beyond furious with Therrien, he played 7:45 last night and he's been in his doghouse for quite awhile. a source close to him says that he's regretting not picking NJ where he would have been closer to his kids + more money. He went to mtl cause it was his childhood dream but its turning into a nightmare for him. He's struggling sleeping and theres nothing he can do.

 

oh well.

 

Not sure if it would've gone any better for him here, but obviously no way to know.  Kinda hard to blame him for going to Montreal...that's a dream for many guys of his heritage.

 

 

well, they didn't Triumph last night, but maybe trading for a guy like Brent burns or Brent seabrook would help. that is if they don't wind up being traded to Brooklyn and retiring having to write Blogs under the pen name Guy Incognito. 

 

 

I'm going to guess that you're implying I'm supposed to be Triumph writing under a different username?  Not sure how else I'm supposed to interpret this.   

[Triumph]

I'm going to guess that you're implying I'm supposed to be Triumph writing under a different username?  Not sure how else I'm supposed to interpret this.   

 

Nah, you're supposed to interpret it that a previously banned poster who is now pathetically posing as a woman is back on the board, again.  Seems Just Peachy 'round here.

Edited December 3, 2013 by Triumph

[TheRedStorm]

 

 

 

 

 

I'm going to guess that you're implying I'm supposed to be Triumph writing under a different username?  Not sure how else I'm supposed to interpret this.   

 

I'm sorry, CR, the Sheldon Cooper clone is on ignore thanks to information and input from fellow board members. Since you seem to be one of the handful who respond to him i quoted you. My apologies.

[DevsMan84]

Nah, you're supposed to interpret it that a previously banned poster who is now pathetically posing as a woman is back on the board, again.  Seems Just Peachy 'round here.

 

Pot meet kettle.

 

You have been implying that non-stop in multiple threads since at least late August thinking your sly or clever.

Edited December 3, 2013 by DevsMan84

[DevsMan84]

Thank God he didn't choose NJ

 

We need all the scoring we could get.  I would have taken him over Olesz and Clowe any day.

[devilsrule33]

I think people complain about Janssen mostly because they don't think he's any good and don't want to see him become a permanent fixture in the lineup, no matter how little he plays...but the scary thing is that he's put more pucks in the net than some of the "scoring" forwards have recently.  Hell, even with the low number of goals overall, guys like Carter and Bernier pitching in are helping to cover up for the many invisible men who aren't putting pucks in the net (we know who they all are)...it could be a lot worse, especially without the offensive contributions of the Devils' defenseman of late. 

 

Tim Sestito isn't any good. Brad Mills wasn't any good. Cam Janssen is an atrocious hockey player. There was once a role for him in 2006 when he came up. But he can't even bring much energy anymore. He can't skate and can't keep up. And like I have said many times, why put a guy in the lineup when you only feel he can play 4+ minutes. It's also been 3 games now where the Devils lost a forward early and had to go with 3 lines for most of the game because you can't play Janssen in tight situations. With so many back-to-backs, it's a brutal recipe. 

 

Yes Janssen got two goals. It was a fun and something to have a chuckle about. But a coach should enjoy that production and bail early, or we might be waiting 100 more games before he gets another. Rob Skrlac scored in his first NHL game, thankfully we didn't wait 75 plus games to see when he'd score another.

 

Look at Gionta. I think when people were enjoying the nice contributions from Gionta, Tri said that the issue with a player like him is that he could go 82 games and score 1 goal. Well, he is at 1 goal in his last 42 games. 

[Triumph]

Pot meet kettle.

 

You have been implying that non-stop in multiple threads since at least late August thinking your sly or clever.

 

That he is a previously banned poster?  Yeah.  That is all I have said.  It's my little joke to him, because I know it drives him nuts, and since he is like a bad penny that keeps turning up.  I don't go assembling someone's life details or stalking them on other websites they have, but I'm not a psycho.  The fact that you defend a guy like this says a lot about you.

Edited December 3, 2013 by Triumph

[TheRedStorm]

Pot meet kettle.

 

You have been implying that non-stop in multiple threads since at least late August thinking your sly or clever.

 

He has? LOL! Really? Hmmmm that explains why i logged on to a message and was asked to feed him that line this morning. Now it makes sense.

 

My God, and i thought the YS/RR2 people have big issues. Move over!

Edited December 3, 2013 by TheRedStorm

[DevsMan84]

That he is a previously banned poster?  Yeah.  That is all I have said.  It's my little joke to him, because I know it drives him nuts, and since he is like a bad penny that keeps turning up.  I don't go assembling someone's life details or stalking them on other websites they have, but I'm not a psycho.  The fact that you defend a guy like this says a lot about you.

 

The fact that you have been trying to imply that for over 3 months now says a lot about you.  Hell you started implying it when she wasn't even directing a post at you and have continued to do so since.

 

You really need to take a long look in the mirror.

He has? LOL! Really? Hmmmm that explains why i was asked by a member to feed him that line this morning. 

 

My God, and i thought the YS/RR2 people has big issues. 

 

Everyone here has issues.  That is why we are all perfect for each other.

Edited December 3, 2013 by DevsMan84

[Triumph]

The thing I notice about Janssen, and maybe I just didn't watch hockey closely during his original stint with the team, but I see people avoiding him on the breakout.  The D will make a riskier pass up the center of the ice away from him, or the D will go D to D again to try to find a better breakout lane if the puck is going to Janssen.  And he is really atrocious at receiving breakout passes - even if he gets the puck on his stick, which is a minor miracle, he has to then lug it to the red line to dump it in.  I don't think he was *this* bad when he first played here - I mean, hell, he got into playoff games.  He wasn't going to handle the puck well but he could at least get it to the red line and dump it in, and maybe hit someone.  Now he usually misses and even when he does hit he's often off-balance and it has no effect. 

[Triumph]

The fact that you have been trying to imply that for over 3 months now says a lot about you.  Hell you started implying it when she wasn't even directing a post at you and have continued to do so since.

 

You really need to take a long look in the mirror.

 

You two have to be real life friends, and you deserve each other.  Nothing more to say to it than that.  The idea that you guys can keep up this charade is just mind-blowing, but why would I expect anything else?

Edited December 3, 2013 by Triumph

[DevsMan84]

You two have to be real life friends, and you deserve each other.  Nothing more to say to it than that.  The idea that you guys can keep up this charade is just mind-blowing, but why would I expect anything else?

 

What charade?  You are the one making the implications for months now at a poster who didn't even say anything to you until today.

 

I guess you still think that makes you the one who is not obsessed?

[DJ Eco]

I think things couldn't have gone better for DeBoer this past week, honestly (aside from winning every game). It's pretty clear moving forward that Cory will probably get the majority of starts. I think he was waiting for a run, like the one Brodeur's currently in, for him to be totally convinced of that, and I don't blame him for that. I think 

 

But think of it this way: after the Carolina loss (which he was criticized for starting Brodeur), he then went on to play Schneider two nights in a row; I think by then, he'd already made his decision. I think he had to give Brodeur the Montreal start, most of us would have, but my guess is Schneider's the starter now.

[dmann422]

I never claimed Janssen was a good player or should have a permanent spot in the team.

What I have a problem with is when we lose because our skill guys couldn't get it done a lot of posters turn to the Janssens, sestitos and giontas and claim they are not pulling their weight. The 4 minutes that Janssen played was the least of our problems last night.

Talk about bad breakout players- Michael Ryder is an automatic turnover whenever the puck touches his stick. He's a second line player getting paid 6x more with 4x more ice time than Janssen.

[Triumph]

In fairness though, the Devils are a team that exists on the thinnest of margins.  They have great defense and when Schneider is in net, great goaltending.  They have a horrible offense.  Unless Schneider turns into Hasek, they're not going to have an easy road to the playoffs.  Having a 4th line that gets 50% of the shots instead of 40-43% of the shots would save them several goals.  Plus I agree with 33, they can't keep playing Jagr 22 minutes a night.  He's obviously in tremendous physical shape but it's too much.

[Derlique]

Someone in chat said NJ had to become a 4 line team again....and its absolutely true.  Too bad Henrique had to go down, because I thought he was playing his best hockey of the season.

[devilsrule33]

In fairness though, the Devils are a team that exists on the thinnest of margins.  They have great defense and when Schneider is in net, great goaltending.  They have a horrible offense.  Unless Schneider turns into Hasek, they're not going to have an easy road to the playoffs.  Having a 4th line that gets 50% of the shots instead of 40-43% of the shots would save them several goals.  Plus I agree with 33, they can't keep playing Jagr 22 minutes a night.  He's obviously in tremendous physical shape but it's too much.

 

You play him this much now...and then he is going to be a gigantic part of the Czech Olympic team, and you'll probably need him to play 22 min down the stretch...

 

Deboer is really going to test what kind of athletic freak Jagr is.

[PWW]

I never claimed Janssen was a good player or should have a permanent spot in the team.

What I have a problem with is when we lose because our skill guys couldn't get it done a lot of posters turn to the Janssens, sestitos and giontas and claim they are not pulling their weight. The 4 minutes that Janssen played was the least of our problems last night.

Talk about bad breakout players- Michael Ryder is an automatic turnover whenever the puck touches his stick. He's a second line player getting paid 6x more with 4x more ice time than Janssen.

 

I don't care what you say, the Janssens and Sestitos ARE a problem. The Devils had their best success in years when they could roll 4 lines, with those guys playing there's no way that's possible. I think we saw this last year when we tried to make our fourth line into our third. This isn't the fault of the players exactly though, it's management, because CanJam and Sestito shouldn't be in there in the first place. Unfortunately, with injuries piling up, the guys to fill out that fourth line aren't on this team currently and the guys that could be given a shot won't be because DeBoer won't allow it. 

[Devilsfan118]

I just hope the Devils find some scoring before Jagr inevitably slows down - he's a physical freak of nature for sure, but I mean..he's gotta slow down before March.  I hope he keeps this type of play up but I wouldn't bank on it.

[dmann422]

I don't care what you say, the Janssens and Sestitos ARE a problem. The Devils had their best success in years when they could roll 4 lines, with those guys playing there's no way that's possible. I think we saw this last year when we tried to make our fourth line into our third. This isn't the fault of the players exactly though, it's management, because CanJam and Sestito shouldn't be in there in the first place. Unfortunately, with injuries piling up, the guys to fill out that fourth line aren't on this team currently and the guys that could be given a shot won't be because DeBoer won't allow it.

the only reason they are playing is because of injuries... It's not like we penciled them in as 4th liners to start the season.

A good fourth line will not make as big a difference as opposed guys like Ryder and Brunner (who are getting prime minutes) turning it around.

We are dominating possession in most of these games, and people think a better 4th line is going to be the difference. Will a better 4th line help jagr lift the puck over subban's stick or god forbid help Brunner realize when he's wide open in the slot that the net isn't ten feet wider so he can put one on goal?

The difference in last nights game wasn't the 4th line. It's great to hope we get healthy and we can get back to a cbgb (or maybe even a carter jj bernier line), but id much rather hope the guys in the top 9 remember how to finish and put more of their opportunities in the net.

[PWW]

the only reason they are playing is because of injuries... It's not like we penciled them in as 4th liners to start the season.

A good fourth line will not make as big a difference as opposed guys like Ryder and Brunner (who are getting prime minutes) turning it around.

We are dominating possession in most of these games, and people think a better 4th line is going to be the difference. Will a better 4th line help jagr lift the puck over subban's stick or god forbid help Brunner realize when he's wide open in the slot that the net isn't ten feet wider so he can put one on goal?

The difference in last nights game wasn't the 4th line. It's great to hope we get healthy and we can get back to a cbgb (or maybe even a carter jj bernier line), but id much rather hope the guys in the top 9 remember how to finish and put more of their opportunities in the net.

 

And a better fourth line could help that. If guys aren't exhausted from playing every 3rd shift instead of every 4th, it could cut down on their minutes and they'll be more well rested when the time comes for a big play. The guys were noticeably dragging ass at the end of last night's game. With so many back-to-backs, a real fourth line that can actually be trusted to play considerable time will not only make the Devils a deeper team, but very well could help the top 9 as well. That's all I'm trying to get at here. I'm not expecting the fourth line to score tons of goals, but more create a ripple effect of not having to have Jagr log 22 minutes and wear everyone else out to the point where they're not at 100% late in games.

[Devil Dan 56]

I don't care what you say, the Janssens and Sestitos ARE a problem. The Devils had their best success in years when they could roll 4 lines, with those guys playing there's no way that's possible. I think we saw this last year when we tried to make our fourth line into our third. This isn't the fault of the players exactly though, it's management, because CanJam and Sestito shouldn't be in there in the first place. Unfortunately, with injuries piling up, the guys to fill out that fourth line aren't on this team currently and the guys that could be given a shot won't be because DeBoer won't allow it. 

 

Who is left to be given a shot? Both of those guys started in the AHL for a reason. If everyone ever gets healthy again, they'll go back to the AHL.