Daniel Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I'm OK with Callahan leaving the Rangers if this is true. He's their captain after all. It could backfire on the Rangers. He's been their captain for a few years. And Nash will fill in quite well in that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 st. louis clearly pushed this - i don't think yzerman wanted to deal him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Really Feraro , they lose their captain and scorer in St. Louis for cally, and they don't get worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 St.Louis to NYR makes them a threat now. This should lead to a Tampa a losing tailspin. Good for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I really doubt it. You can count on St. Louis having at least 3 to 4 more years of very productive play. And it's basically a certainty that he'll re-up with the Rangers after next year. Rags are a fairly deep team, so they don't really need the picks. Tampa got robbed. Tough to say. St. Louis will be 39 in the offseason. It's year to year at that age, you can't predict that he'll be productive at 41-43 as very few players in NHL history have been. Next year he may turn into a 50 point powerplay specialist...then he'll be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Not terrible. They could trade MSL at the deadline next year to get a 1st back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 So Washington, Philly, NYR made moves to get better. I think Lou really has to do something here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Hopefully rangers lose some leadership and heart with this trade and don't play as well. Edited March 5, 2014 by Zubie#8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 poor stamkos got trolled immediately - he's ready to go, ready to show what his bionic leg can do and the 4'2" midget throws it all away lol. woops. tampa lost this one for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So Washington, Philly, NYR made moves to get better. I think Lou really has to do something here He's working the phones to get that 4th rounder for Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRZYRIPPER Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Did conacher get claimed by buffalo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils102 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 He's been their captain for a few years. And Nash will fill in quite well in that role. Callahan is a grittier, tough to play against player. Nash is good but he's a different type of player. Who knows what goes on in the Rangers locker room. I guess we'll just have to see how things play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH26 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) did Tampa not shop him anywhere else? I have a hard time believing they couldn't get a .50 PPG pending UFA and two draft picks for him from nearly every other team. I have a hard time believing he'd only go to NYR unless that came out and I missed it Edited March 5, 2014 by DH26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I will say though, it appears as if the Rangers make the ECF, that 2nd this year turns into another 1st. So it's possible if the Rangers win two rounds this becomes a 1st in 2014 and 2015 for MSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 did Tampa not shop him anywhere else? I have a hard time believing they couldn't get a .50 PPG pending UFA and two draft picks for him from nearly every other team He only wanted to go to one team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weekes Head Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 he didnt want to go anywhere else. this was the deal that was going to be made. stevie y doesnt trade st louis unless marty demands out. thats how you see two captains in the playoff hunt swap sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 did Tampa not shop him anywhere else? I have a hard time believing they couldn't get a .50 PPG pending UFA and two draft picks for him from nearly every other team St Louis had a NMC. Maybe he only wanted to go to NY? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If Tampa is smart they are looking to unload Callahan now. He is made of papermache and will increasingly show diminishing returns. Its a pretty big IF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRedStorm Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So Washington, Philly, NYR made moves to get better. I think Lou really has to do something here With all the garbage Sather gets for being "him" and pro-active, he's fleeced his share of teams, too. Lamoriello also does not have the organizational assets. You have to give to get and you have to have to get. The Rangers roster was set up for this type of impact deal. But it also shows that you can be a Cup contender/playoff team AND trade a upcoming FA and get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 If Tampa is smart they are looking to unload Callahan now. He is made of papermache and will increasingly show diminishing returns. Its a pretty big IF. Well I guess the thinking is that the 1st and 2nd offset the difference in player between Callahan and St. Louis while still allowing the Lightning to try and win this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 St.Louis to NYR makes them a threat now. This should lead to a Tampa a losing tailspin. Good for us. Why would Tampa losing and the Rangers winning be good for us? We're a lot closer to the Rangers in the standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I will say though, it appears as if the Rangers make the ECF, that 2nd this year turns into another 1st. So it's possible if the Rangers win two rounds this becomes a 1st in 2014 and 2015 for MSL So it would be the number 26 pick in a weak draft and a who knows pick next year in what they say is a top heavy draft. If you want the Rangers to lose out in this deal, everything that you can imagine has to go wrong for them next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 How about we swing a trade for Callahan with Brodeur being a part of the package the ultimate troll job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted March 5, 2014 Author Share Posted March 5, 2014 With all the garbage Sather gets for being "him" and pro-active, he's fleeced his share of teams, too. Lamoriello also does not have the organizational assets. You have to give to get and you have to have to get. The Rangers roster was set up for this type of impact deal. But it also shows that you can be a Cup contender/playoff team AND trade a upcoming FA and get better. To be fair, St. Louis only wanted to go to one team and forced Yzerman's hand. He still got back a decent haul all things considering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 So it would be the number 26 pick in a weak draft and a who knows pick next year in what they say is a top heavy draft. If you want the Rangers to lose out in this deal, everything that you can imagine has to go wrong for them next year. Or as we like to say 90-91 Leafs it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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