Daniel Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 You have no idea if this was the case. Just because CSS didn't rank him doesn't mean this is true. No I haven't interviewed every GM to verify that. However everyone on the telecast that said he wasn't projected anywhere close to that or even on their draft lists, and not just a matter of CSS rankings. When you hear stuff like that it's a good bet that he would have been available much later. It wasn't the end of the world though. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 http://m.thn.com/blog/why-the-penguins-should-trade-sidney-crosby-for-the-no-1-pick/ I would hold on to McDavid myself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Who ever is number one should say thanks but no thanks. Guy clearly has a concussion problem. There has already been talk of him having to retire. Start fresh with McDavid. Edited March 29, 2015 by Chimaira_Devil_#9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) For what it's worth (very little), just about every 'expert' mock draft I've seen has the Devils taking one of the big power forwards (Crouse or Rantanen) no matter where we pick 6-8. Edited March 29, 2015 by Neb00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I think it's inevitable NJ drafts Crowse. Very big fast winger who is apparently elite defensively at the junior level. Very physical and a good goal scorer. I think they take him even if they moved to 5 spot. Edited March 29, 2015 by Jas0nMacIsaac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I think it's inevitable NJ drafts Crowse. Very big fast winger who is apparently elite defensively at the junior level. Very physical and a good goal scorer. I think they take him even if they moved to 5 spot. Not the most desirable selection since we would be passing over more elite offensive talents to take a winger who's offensive upside is still uncertain. Lou can't be seduced by the defensive game. Get the best offensive talent available for where the Devils will be. It won't be Crouse. He's also not that quick a skater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I think it's inevitable NJ drafts Crowse. Very big fast winger who is apparently elite defensively at the junior level. Very physical and a good goal scorer. I think they take him even if they moved to 5 spot.The Devils need to draft a center or a RW with that pick. I'll be annoyed if they take Crouse. If they pass on a playmaking potential #1 center or a RW like Rantanen to draft a LW in Crouse, it would be bordering on fireable lunacy... Edited March 29, 2015 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Not the most desirable selection since we would be passing over more elite offensive talents to take a winger who's offensive upside is still uncertain. Lou can't be seduced by the defensive game. Get the best offensive talent available for where the Devils will be. It won't be Crouse. He's also not that quick a skater. you know that its very very very possible that he will be seduced by defensive right? lol we've seen it enough before. were now sitting on the 6th pick, 8 pts away from the 5th spot (carolina who has a game) i think were likely gonna stay 6, not impossible that we get 5 but this is the devils... so we'll pick 6 or 7. We HAVE to pick before the flyers. would be terrible that they get a player that we want and that he's haunting us for awhile lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 The Devils should draft a LW over a C or a RW if that player is better, and that is what they will do. The thing is, a lot of draft experts out there have Rantanen rated above Crouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 regardless of whom it is, (Rantanen, Crouse, Meier0 they might get a shot to make the team next year. especially Rantanen. ( like the fw on Fla whose name escapes me) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 regardless of whom it is, (Rantanen, Crouse, Meier0 they might get a shot to make the team next year. especially Rantanen. ( like the fw on Fla whose name escapes me) Barkov? What do people think of Pavel Zacha? I like his game, even though this numbers haven't been as great as some of the other players the Devils have a shot of taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 its always a gamble... big guy producing well you have to wonder... he's he producing cause he's playing against kids and he's bigger than most of them but once he's playing with guys all his sizes is he gonna keep that edge? then a small player producing... same thing, it can work in juniors playings with other kids but is it gonna translate in the NHL etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Barkov? What do people think of Pavel Zacha? I like his game, even though this numbers haven't been as great as some of the other players the Devils have a shot of taking. i guess he's not really fast so he'd fit with our system lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilMinder Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 its always a gamble... big guy producing well you have to wonder... he's he producing cause he's playing against kids and he's bigger than most of them but once he's playing with guys all his sizes is he gonna keep that edge? then a small player producing... same thing, it can work in juniors playings with other kids but is it gonna translate in the NHL etc etc In other words, you can ask this question for every single player that isn't size. But if they are average size then you don't have to worry about their skills translating over? What you just said makes no sense at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) We currently only have five picks in the draft. But we have 3 inside the first 50 selections. My question. Would you trade the two second round picks (likely to be around 36 and 42) for a low first round pick(between 25 and 30) if the opportunity presented itself? Or hold fast and take two players just outside the first round. Edited March 30, 2015 by Chimaira_Devil_#9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 We currently only have five picks in the draft. But we have 3 inside the first 50 selections. My question. Would you trade the two second round picks (likely to be around 36 and 42) for a low first round pick(between 25 and 30) if the opportunity presented itself? Or hold fast and take two players just outside the first round. No the difference between a pick in the late 20s and mid 30s is negligible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 No the difference between a pick in the late 20s and mid 30s is negligible yeah, you dont do it rote, but if the scouts covet a particular player I'd certainly do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 No the difference between a pick in the late 20s and mid 30s is negligible Depends on who's available at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/mark-your-calendars-the-date-has-been-set-for-the-nhls-most-anticipated-draft-lottery-in-years/ was just looking for the date of the lottery.. looking like its Saturday April 18th? not sure if we already knew that, but there it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/mark-your-calendars-the-date-has-been-set-for-the-nhls-most-anticipated-draft-lottery-in-years/ was just looking for the date of the lottery.. looking like its Saturday April 18th? not sure if we already knew that, but there it is Ah Daleys face when he announced the Devils had won the lottery. Such a sweet moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Crouse just doesn't address the scoring problem. I wonder (if we're picking at 6), if Carolina would take a defender over Marner/Strome. Or if we could maybe package a defender with our 1st to move up a spot. Gelinas + 6th for 5th? I was reading the Carolina forum on HF and they were saying they need pretty much everything. Size, defense, scoring, etc. I'm just hoping that having Skinner makes Marner not as important to their needs and they go with size or defense and Marner falls to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Crouse just doesn't address the scoring problem. I wonder (if we're picking at 6), if Carolina would take a defender over Marner/Strome. Or if we could maybe package a defender with our 1st to move up a spot. Gelinas + 6th for 5th? I was reading the Carolina forum on HF and they were saying they need pretty much everything. Size, defense, scoring, etc. I'm just hoping that having Skinner makes Marner not as important to their needs and they go with size or defense and Marner falls to us. I don't think Gelinas gets that move done. I would only move up for Strome. If not stick with the 6th and take one of Ratanen, Zacha, Brazal or Crouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I don't think Gelinas gets that move done. I would only move up for Strome. If not stick with the 6th and take one of Ratanen, Zacha, Brazal or Crouse. Unfortunately you're probably right and I don't think packaging any of our other defenders would be worth moving up one spot. I'm still hoping Carolina passes on Marner. But then I'm not confident Lou takes Marner. I honestly have no idea what to expect from this draft. There should be a good scoring forward available where we pick but I have no idea what Lou's going to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 In other words, you can ask this question for every single player that isn't size. But if they are average size then you don't have to worry about their skills translating over? What you just said makes no sense at all. haha wow, why are you stretching what i said and picking on it? it's a thing. "Some" smaller players were never able to adjust and some bigger players saw a drop in their play cause they didnt have that advantage anymore. Really not as if im saying it's that case in 100% or anything ridiculous. There's cases like that and It's certainly a thing and something scouts are looking into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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