HellOnICE Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 if the 2010-2011 Devils have taught me anything its that Columbus will win the draft lottery so I expect the Devils to draft 7th That's pretty fair... im expecting Colombus or Philly to win it lol if there was ever a murphy's law season in the history of hockey it was ours this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 we desperately need a top center, chances that we can land one through trade is slim and our top center got 23 pts in 70 games this season. 23 POINTS IN 70 GAMES ! This as to be a record or something for a top line center honestly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Well...he's just disappointing from his first season. He's alright though yeah, not what you'd expect from No. 1 overall, but still. 25 could happen. That draft comes off as a pretty weak/weird one the further away we get from it. AFAIK Yakupov's draft year wasn't really a great one as far as 1st overall picks go and the guys making the most noise from that crop are the defensemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Do the Devils have a full time scout that does KHL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 If the Devils somehow win the lottery, they need to consider trading the first overall pick. McDavid is a generational talent, which could cause a team to do something incredibly stupid. A Lindrosesque return like Quebec got is what this team needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Do the Devils have a full time scout that does KHL? Yes, Vaclav Slansky, Jr is their Russian scout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) if Philly wins tonight and Colombus gets a point we're pretty much gonna clinch the 6th pick lol unless someone above us wins the lottery. hopefully not. So its safe to assume we'll land one of Hanifin, Strome, Marner, Barzal, Crouse or Rantanen unless there's a trade. Edited April 6, 2015 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 If the Devils somehow win the lottery, they need to consider trading the first overall pick. McDavid is a generational talent, which could cause a team to do something incredibly stupid. A Lindrosesque return like Quebec got is what this team needs. The Lindros trade would have been an enormous failure for Quebec/Colorado had the it not included Peter Forsberg. He was the sixth overall pick of Lindros's draft year. It could have just as easily been Aaron Ward or Alex Stojanov who were picks 5 and 7 respectively that year. Or, a theoretical McDavid trade similarly structured to the Philly deal for Lindros would have a bunch of pretty good NHL starters (which the Devils don't need) and say, Mitch Marner, who may turn out to be as good as Patrick Kane, or Sam Gagne, both of whom put up video game point numbers in their draft years. There are only a few McDavid trades that get entertained if the Devils win the lottery in my opinion. One would involve swapping picks with Buffalo (who would have number 2/Eichel) and asking for something else that's very good. From Buffalo's standpoint, that's probably a zero sum improvement, so I think they'd just stick with Eichel and keep what they have. The other would be for something equivalent to a deal that gives you pretty much the makings of three of your top six forwards... like that idea of trading with Toronto and getting JVR, Nylander, their first this year and their first next year. In all likelihood Toronto wouldn't do that. And from ownership's standpoint, McDavid almost certainly boosts the team's attendance and national attention. So while they don't appear to interfere in personnel moves, I imagine they would say there is no trade unless Lou can make a very convincing case that the return in any deal would make the team a bona fide Cup contender and relatively soon at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 If the Devils somehow win the lottery, they need to consider trading the first overall pick. McDavid is a generational talent, which could cause a team to do something incredibly stupid. A Lindrosesque return like Quebec got is what this team needs.If we won the lottery, I wouldn't even consider trading that pick unless someone entered a stratosphere SO stupid, it bordered on indefensible lunacy to not make the trade. Which means you'd have to basically offer me your franchise plus your first rounder for the next 5 years... And that would be just to get the conversation started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devils102 Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 My greatest fear is that the Devils win the lottery and Lou steps up to the podium and drafts some Anton Kadeykin-esque no-namer instead of McDavid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas0nMacIsaac Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'm really liking Barzal at the moment. For some reason I am getting a Ryan Nugent-Hopkins vibe with him. He doesn't have the linemates that many of the other draft eligible players have. Either way I want a center with the first pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Yes, Vaclav Slansky, Jr is their Russian scout. It's also possible Timo Blomqvist (Finnish) and Jan Ludvig (Czech) dabble in some KHL scouting (Western Conference), if I really had to guess. But yeah, just a guess. Edited April 6, 2015 by DJ Eco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'm really liking Barzal at the moment. For some reason I am getting a Ryan Nugent-Hopkins vibe with him. He doesn't have the linemates that many of the other draft eligible players have. Either way I want a center with the first pick. Positional need aside, would you see Crouse being a bad pick for the Devils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Positional need aside, would you see Crouse being a bad pick for the Devils? he's a typical devils player. He'll play hard, win battles, good defensively and all but he won't put up amazing points. Which is what i'd want from our pick. He's not even a PPG player in juniors. That being said he could probably still be our best forwards in a few years Edited April 6, 2015 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 he's a typical devils player. He'll play hard, win battles, good defensively and all but he won't put up amazing points. Which is what i'd want from our pick. He's not even a PPG player in juniors. That being said he could probably still be our best forwards in a few years I suppose being a PPG player in your draft year isn't the end all/be all, especially given that it appears that he didn't have the greatest talent around him. Ryan Johansen wasn't a PPG in his draft year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I suppose being a PPG player in your draft year isn't the end all/be all, especially given that it appears that he didn't have the greatest talent around him. Ryan Johansen wasn't a PPG in his draft year. No of course not but i'd like to draft someone showing indications that he could be a big time scorer. Strome and Marner are showing that. Then for Marner there's the size question and all but at least he's been a proven scorer. I'd rather hope to see a proven guy "doing what he does best" rather than hoping for a guy to "develop something he wasnt" at the highest level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 (edited) NHL Central Scouting Final Rankings North American Skaters 1. C Connor McDavid (Erie) 2. C Jack Eichel (Boston University) 3. D Noah Hanifin (Boston College) 4. C Dylan Strome (Erie) 5. LW Lawson Crouse (Kingston) 6. RW Mitch Marner (London) 7. D Ivan Provorov (Brandon) 8. C Pavel Zacha (Sarnia) 9. D Zach Werenski (Michigan) 10. RW Timo Meier (Halifax) North American Goalies 1. Mackenzie Blackwood (Barrie) 2. Callum Booth (Quebec) 3. Samuel Montembeault (Blainville-Boisbriand) 4. Adin Hill (Portland) 5. Matej Tomek (Topeka) International Skaters 1. RW Mikko Rantanen (TPS) 2. D Gabriel Carlsson (Linkoping Jr.) 3. D Jacob Larsson (Frolunda Jr.) 4. C Joel Eriksson Ek (Farjestad) 5. RW Michael Spacek (Pardubice) 6. Oliver Kylington (Farjestad) 7. RW Denis Gurianov (Togliatti 2) 8. RW Robin Kovacs (AIK) 9. LW Filip Ahl (HV 71 Jr.) 10. RW Jens Looke (Brynas) International Goalies 1. Ilya Samsonov (Magnitogorsk 2) 2. Daniel Vladar (Kladno) 3. Felix Sandstrom (Brynas Jr.) 4. Ales Stezka (Liberec Jr.) 5. Joren van Pottelberghe (Linkoping U18) Future Considerations April Top 30 1. C Connor McDavid (Erie) 2. C Jack Eichel (Boston University) 3. D Noah Hanifin (Boston College) 4. C Dylan Strome (Erie) 5. RW Mitch Marner (London) 6. D Zach Werenski (Michigan) 7. RW Mikko Rantanen (TPS) 8. D Ivan Provorov (Brandon) 9. LW Lawson Crouse (Kingston) 10. RW Travis Konecny (Ottawa) Craig's List Top 100 1. C Connor McDavid (Erie) 2. C Jack Eichel (Boston University) 3. C Dylan Strome (Erie) 4. RW Mitch Marner (London) 5. D Ivan Provorov (Brandon) 6. D Zach Werenski (Michigan) 7. LW Kyle Connor (Youngstown) 8. RW Brock Boeser (Waterloo) 9. RW Timo Meier (Halifax) 10. D Thomas Chabot (Saint John) Ideally I'd like one of Strome (unlikely), Marner (unlikely), or Rantanen (possible). Barzal also seems intriguing. I'd be interested in hearing from some of the Finnish and Swedish posters here about some of the international prospects. Edited: Correct list for Craig's List now. Edited April 8, 2015 by thefiestygoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Craig's List Top 100 1. C Connor McDavid (Erie) 2. C Jack Eichel (Boston University) 3. C Dylan Strome (Erie) 4. RW Mitch Marner (London) 5. D Ivan Provorov (Brandon) 6. D Zach Werenski (Michigan) 7. LW Kyle Connor (Youngstown) 8. D Noah Hanifin (Boston College) 9. RW Brock Boeser (Waterloo) 10. RW Timo Meier (Halifax) Button just came out with his April rankings. (I think the link you posted was from March). http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-suspenseful-race-for-no-3-1.249965 Top ten are: McDavid Eichel Strome Marner Provorov Werenski Kyle Connor Boeser Meier Chabot Other notables are Hanifin at 12 and Crouse at 11. Don't think I've seen anyone have Hanifin ranked so low. Would be kind of spooky if he's available when we're picking. Hockey East defenseman that fits the "too good to pass up" description, at least on reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted April 8, 2015 Author Share Posted April 8, 2015 Button just came out with his April rankings. (I think the link you posted was from March). http://www.tsn.ca/craig-s-list-suspenseful-race-for-no-3-1.249965 Top ten are: McDavid Eichel Strome Marner Provorov Werenski Kyle Connor Boeser Meier Chabot Other notables are Hanifin at 12 and Crouse at 11. Don't think I've seen anyone have Hanifin ranked so low. Would be kind of spooky if he's available when we're picking. Hockey East defenseman that fits the "too good to pass up" description, at least on reputation. Good catch. I clicked on the first link on TSN without double checking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 i really dont think Crouse is a top 10 material in a deep draft, he'll surely be a good NHL but not someone you build around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louismydad Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 do you take Hanifin if he is available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 do you take Hanifin if he is available? I would do my best to trade the pick. If there's not an acceptable deal, I think Lou has to sway from dogma and go with the best forward available, even if he's convinced Hanifin is the second coming of Chris Pronger. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 do you take Hanifin if he is available? Yes, you always go with BPA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Would Hanifin really be BPA though especially if teams in need of defense pass on him? I still think BPA is subjective anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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