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To the extent that they do, it's probably just getting a real handle on how tall and heavy a player actually is. Although Triumph has noted that some players at the NHL combine will intentionally appear weaker and slimmer, the idea being that teams will say that a player can still improve a lot as he gets bigger.

The other thing that actually does sway teams sometimes are the interviews, but that's more that a bad interview will cause some players to slip.

That Marner weighs less than 160 at his height might make someone a little nervous, at least to invest a top five pick in him.

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I wonder how often the interview sways someone. I really can't see it meaning sh!t. Some guys can talk and say all the right things, and others are idiots. Most probably awkward and somewhere in the middle. I'm willing to bet that for every time that an interviewer left thinking that guy really is special after their sit down, and he turned out to have all the extra qualities you want in an NHL player, there were more times that an interviewer left so impressed, and it turned out to mean sh!t in the grand scheme of things.

 

As for an above post about someone saying they'd buy expensive cars, so what? If one guy says I plan to make all these massive purchases, and someone else says they are going to save all their money and live modestly...what does that tell you, even if you can believe both?

 

Scott Gomez said it in his tribune article, he could count on two fingers how many guys he felt were going through the motions, and really didn't work hard enough or take their job seriously in the league. I'd love to know what they get out of these interviews.

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I wonder how often the interview sways someone. I really can't see it meaning sh!t. Some guys can talk and say all the right things, and others are idiots. Most probably awkward and somewhere in the middle. I'm willing to bet that for every time that an interviewer left thinking that guy really is special after their sit down, and he turned out to have all the extra qualities you want in an NHL player, there were more times that an interviewer left so impressed, and it turned out to mean sh!t in the grand scheme of things.

 

As for an above post about someone saying they'd buy expensive cars, so what? If one guy says I plan to make all these massive purchases, and someone else says they are going to save all their money and live modestly...what does that tell you, even if you can believe both?

 

Scott Gomez said it in his tribune article, he could count on two fingers how many guys he felt were going through the motions, and really didn't work hard enough or take their job seriously in the league. I'd love to know what they get out of these interviews.

 

Chico's story sounds apocryphal - but presumably someone who starts buying expensive cars as a rookie doesn't understand that the work doesn't end with landing your first pro contract and pro payday.  There are plenty of people who have money as a motivation but who understand that money must be earned through hard work.  I think even though that story reeks of bullsh!t the lesson of that story is not undertsanding how an answer like that will be perceived - even if it is the player speaking the truth and is fully committed to a life of working hard and driving expensive cars, he should lie.  Now you'd think that that isn't important, but agreed-upon lies seem to be a pretty solid foundation for a sports career - protect your teammates and they'll protect you, the coach is always right, your agent is always looking out for you and not himself, and so on.  

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Chico's story sounds apocryphal - but presumably someone who starts buying expensive cars as a rookie doesn't understand that the work doesn't end with landing your first pro contract and pro payday.  There are plenty of people who have money as a motivation but who understand that money must be earned through hard work.  I think even though that story reeks of bullsh!t the lesson of that story is not undertsanding how an answer like that will be perceived - even if it is the player speaking the truth and is fully committed to a life of working hard and driving expensive cars, he should lie.  Now you'd think that that isn't important, but agreed-upon lies seem to be a pretty solid foundation for a sports career - protect your teammates and they'll protect you, the coach is always right, your agent is always looking out for you and not himself, and so on.  

For all we know that kid was selanne and he ended up buying tons of expensive cars.

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I wonder how often the interview sways someone. I really can't see it meaning sh!t. Some guys can talk and say all the right things, and others are idiots. Most probably awkward and somewhere in the middle. I'm willing to bet that for every time that an interviewer left thinking that guy really is special after their sit down, and he turned out to have all the extra qualities you want in an NHL player, there were more times that an interviewer left so impressed, and it turned out to mean sh!t in the grand scheme of things.

 

As for an above post about someone saying they'd buy expensive cars, so what? If one guy says I plan to make all these massive purchases, and someone else says they are going to save all their money and live modestly...what does that tell you, even if you can believe both?

 

Scott Gomez said it in his tribune article, he could count on two fingers how many guys he felt were going through the motions, and really didn't work hard enough or take their job seriously in the league. I'd love to know what they get out of these interviews.

 

I seem to recall that Merrill hearing had some bad interviews in addition to the baggage he already had.

 

But otherwise, I think the point is that it's not hard to not shoot yourself in the foot during an interview, and it's a bad sign if you do.   Sort of like how I feel about athletes that get suspended for smoking pot.  For the most part, I don't see anything wrong with smoking pot, but it shows poor impulse control if you're willing to risk at least a six-figures and sometimes seven figures because you really needed to get high. 

 

It's not the be-all, end-all, but it's just one more thing that might help tip the scale between one player or another. 

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I seem to recall that Merrill hearing had some bad interviews in addition to the baggage he already had.

But otherwise, I think the point is that it's not hard to not shoot yourself in the foot during an interview, and it's a bad sign if you do. Sort of like how I feel about athletes that get suspended for smoking pot. For the most part, I don't see anything wrong with smoking pot, but it shows poor impulse control if you're willing to risk at least a six-figures and sometimes seven figures because you really needed to get high.

It's not the be-all, end-all, but it's just one more thing that might help tip the scale between one player or another.

Whole heartedly agree with this
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If Zacha is the guy they like at 6th Overall come June 26th, I whole-heartedly believe in that pick. His numbers were held back a bit by some external factors (bad team, injuries, and 1st NA season), but when you watch him play he has all the tools to be a very good offensive player in the NHL. When he's at his best, he has some flashes of Kovalchuk to his game, big strong forward with a laser of a shot and a fantastic one-timer, NHL-ready size too. This video is exactly what it is, just highlights of his game, but here's some flashes of what Zacha is when he's at his best (excuse the rancid music :P ):

 

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I like his skillset but he doesn't produce much better than Crouse and isn't being labeled as an elite defensive player.

Still want Barzal

I agree that assuming the Big 5 are gone (McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Marner, and Strome), Barzal would be my top choice. It's really just a matter of what type of player you'd rather have, a speedy playmaker (Barzal) or a strong goal scorer (Zacha).

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Also just for the sake of conversation, I wrote up that Community Mock Draft I mentioned a couple pages ago on my blog, if anyone is interested in checking it out:

 

http://nhldraftboard.sportsblog.com/posts/2599992/2015-community-mock-draft.html

 

Devils Picks:

 

6th: C Mathew Barzal

36th: LW Paul Bittner

41st: C Thomas Novak

67th: RW Jens Looke

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Since we're showing highlights

 

Really I love the skill sets of every player in our area, Barzal seems like a future Matt Duchene-type player which is mighty tempting to me. Even Lawson Crouse I absolutely love, see him likely developing into a Gabe Landeskog-type power forward.

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Also just for the sake of conversation, I wrote up that Community Mock Draft I mentioned a couple pages ago on my blog, if anyone is interested in checking it out:

 

http://nhldraftboard.sportsblog.com/posts/2599992/2015-community-mock-draft.html

 

Devils Picks:

 

6th: C Mathew Barzal

36th: LW Paul Bittner

41st: C Thomas Novak

67th: RW Jens Looke

 

I think Bittner is likely to be a pretty bad pick. I'd rather try to nab Rasmus Andersson with the 41st.

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Been watching some Lawson Crouse highlights and interviews. He's starting to really grow on me, just wish he was a center or right wing.

Been watching some Lawson Crouse highlights and interviews. He's starting to really grow on me, just wish he was a center or right wing.

Been watching some Lawson Crouse highlights and interviews. He's starting to really grow on me, just wish he was a center or right wing.

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I really hope Marner somehow falls. That would be great. Maybe his size will scare away a few teams. Im not afraid of it because the kid has world class talent and also a Mr. Patrick Kane was around the same size his draft year.

 

Give me a percentage how likely he'd fall to us

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