Triumph Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I doubt very much that Hanifin would fall to 7. He's got 21 points in 33 games in college as a 17/18 year old defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 If Hanifin is there at 7, you have to take him, it is a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Rantanen or Barzal please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMONPETEYD Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 If Hanifin is there at 7, you have to take him, it is a no brainer. Or - you do what smart teams do and you trade down a few spots and get a prospect or some more picks. If that kid falls to 7 you better believe teams with defensive needs will come calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Or - you do what smart teams do and you trade down a few spots and get a prospect or some more picks. If that kid falls to 7 you better believe teams with defensive needs will come calling. I'm not sure nhl draft picks are as valuable as say nfl draft picks. If you trade down 5-10 spots from 7 to like 15, what is the return like? In the NFL that's at least another first and second plus some more. In the NHL I don't get the feeling that the return would be worth it, I'd rather draft a player like hanifin who is as close to a sure thing and trade one of our a prospects.And yeah it's highly unlikely he falls to us but we have over 3 months to fill here lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have a feeling if the Devils finish the season above NHL .500 and are picking anywhere below 10, the first rounder will be part of trade for Kessel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have a feeling if the Devils finish the season above NHL .500 and are picking anywhere below 10, the first rounder will be part of trade for Kessel. and at that point Id support that move, but I will hold out hope for a top 6 pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onddeck Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Phil Kessel really isn't a bad idea at all. He's not 18 but think about it, he's a year younger than Schneider and our goal is obviously win a cup before Schneider retires. I'd definitely be in favor of the trade Daniel described if we dont get that great of a pick afterall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I have a feeling if the Devils finish the season above NHL .500 and are picking anywhere below 10, the first rounder will be part of trade for Kessel. Love Kessel, so I am good with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Please don't be afraid of Europeans this year, Conte. Seems like a lot of skill in this draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) Interesting mock draft from some of the guys at Hockey Prospectus. They have the Devils taking D Zach Werenski at 7 and LW Dennis Yan at 37. I'd be happy with those picks. Werenski is a 17 year old freshman for Michigan (NCAA). In 32 GP he has 9 goals, 15 assists, +10, 8 PIM, 55 blocks, 11.84 SH%, and 2.38 SH/GP. He's already 6'2, 214 lbs. and doesn't turn 18 until 7/19. I know everyone wants a forward but he may be the BPA and too good to pass up. Yan is a 17 year old rookie for Shawinigan (QMJHL). He turns 18 on 4/14. In 57 GP he has 32 goals, 30 assists, +22, 67 PIM, 16.41 SH%, and 3.42 SH/GP. He's 6'1, 188 lbs and is a product of the USNTDP. According to Elite Prospects, he's 7th in scoring amongst the current U18 players in the QMJHL. EDIT: Completely missed the Devils pick at 41. They have them taking C Jakob-Forsbacka-Karlsson from Omaha (USHL). 18 year old RC from Stockholm who is the leading scorer for Omaha with 50 GP 15 goals, 38 assists, +10, 38 PIM, 12.93 SH%, and 2.32 SH/GP. He's also tied for 7th in scoring in the USHL. He'll be at Boston University next year. I think those 3 would be a nice haul for the Devils. Edited March 19, 2015 by thefiestygoat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWW Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 If Strome or Marner doesn't fall to us, I'm really hoping the Devils take Barzal. Elite playmaking center that could allow us to drop Zajac to 2nd line duties. Kid also has speed for days and a solid shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 FWIW, of all the draft eligible 17-18 year olds in the WHL, only Nick Merkley has more points per game than Barzal. I imagine Barzal's injury has impacted his points total to some degree, as well. He could turn out to be a steal if the Devils take him at 7. I remember hearing good things before the injury. Interesting mock draft from some of the guys at Hockey Prospectus. They have the Devils taking D Zach Werenski at 7 and LW Dennis Yan at 37. I'd be happy with those picks. Werenski is a 17 year old freshman for Michigan (NCAA). In 32 GP he has 9 goals, 15 assists, +10, 8 PIM, 55 blocks, 11.84 SH%, and 2.38 SH/GP. He's already 6'2, 214 lbs. and doesn't turn 18 until 7/19. I know everyone wants a forward but he may be the BPA and too good to pass up. Yan is a 17 year old rookie for Shawinigan (QMJHL). He turns 18 on 4/14. In 57 GP he has 32 goals, 30 assists, +22, 67 PIM, 16.41 SH%, and 3.42 SH/GP. He's 6'1, 188 lbs and is a product of the USNTDP. According to Elite Prospects, he's 7th in scoring amongst the current U18 players in the QMJHL. EDIT: Completely missed the Devils pick at 41. They have them taking C Jakob-Forsbacka-Karlsson from Omaha (USHL). 18 year old RC from Stockholm who is the leading scorer for Omaha with 50 GP 15 goals, 38 assists, +10, 38 PIM, 12.93 SH%, and 2.32 SH/GP. He's also tied for 7th in scoring in the USHL. He'll be at Boston University next year. I think those 3 would be a nice haul for the Devils. I'd be happy with this, too. Werenski is putting up some crazy numbers as a freshman in the NCAA. He and Provorov are two defensemen I'm looking at who I'd be happy with. Hard to pass on a forward, but one of those guys could help make the Devils future on D look ridiculously dangerous. Greene-Larsson Merrill-Severson Santini-Werenski/Provorov I wonder if the Devils are in that position, though, whether they'd try trading down with a team like Ottawa or Winnipeg (or whichever teams end up picking close to the middle of the first round) and get another second rounder. That way they'll still have a shot at one of the highly talented guys like Rantanen, Zacha, Meier, Svechnikov, or maybe even Barzal AND they will have 3 chances in the second round to get a decent forward or D/G prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Devils would have to trade down if they were in line to take a D. They cannot take a defenseman in the 1st round, I don't care how highly rated he is - if he's that highly rated, someone else will want him, and the Devils will get additional picks, which they sorely need anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 I wouldn't put it past LL to pick a D man with the 1st round pick, but like Tri said, we don't need another defenseman. We desparately need forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Devils would have to trade down if they were in line to take a D. They cannot take a defenseman in the 1st round, I don't care how highly rated he is - if he's that highly rated, someone else will want him, and the Devils will get additional picks, which they sorely need anyway. An interesting scenario would be, if the top forwards are gone, would be to trade number 7 overall to Edmonton for the pick they got from Pittisburgh (which would be between 20 and 23 if they don't make it to the Cup finals) and Yakopov (unless the thinking is that he's unsalvageable) or perhaps RNH if Hannifin for some reason slips that far. Or perhaps swing for the fences with Taylor Hall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 McDavid Eichel Strome Marner Barzal Rantanen I don't think we should take a defender over any of these guys if they're still on the board. Chances are Hanifin will be taken in there so if we wind up with the 7th we should be ok. But who knows where we end up at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 An interesting scenario would be, if the top forwards are gone, would be to trade number 7 overall to Edmonton for the pick they got from Pittisburgh (which would be between 20 and 23 if they don't make it to the Cup finals) and Yakopov (unless the thinking is that he's unsalvageable) or perhaps RNH if Hannifin for some reason slips that far. Or perhaps swing for the fences with Taylor Hall. Don't forget Jordan Eberle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 An interesting scenario would be, if the top forwards are gone, would be to trade number 7 overall to Edmonton for the pick they got from Pittisburgh (which would be between 20 and 23 if they don't make it to the Cup finals) and Yakopov (unless the thinking is that he's unsalvageable) or perhaps RNH if Hannifin for some reason slips that far. Or perhaps swing for the fences with Taylor Hall. Yakupov is playing much better and I don't think Edmonton is ready to give up on him. They would absolutely not trade Taylor Hall or RNH for the package you are describing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Yakupov is playing much better and I don't think Edmonton is ready to give up on him. They would absolutely not trade Taylor Hall or RNH for the package you are describing. If somehow Hanifin slipped that far, perhaps it could land RNH with something else that isn't that valuable but not useless either. The implication is that it would take a lot more to land Hall, I don't know what, but Hannifin, if he's there would be a plausible start. Don't forget Jordan Eberle I'm meh on Eberle. Seems very much like the type that's either scoring goals or he's useless. He's the sort of guy you try and buy low on, or don't bother with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefiestygoat Posted March 19, 2015 Author Share Posted March 19, 2015 Devils would have to trade down if they were in line to take a D. They cannot take a defenseman in the 1st round, I don't care how highly rated he is - if he's that highly rated, someone else will want him, and the Devils will get additional picks, which they sorely need anyway. This is an interesting scenario. I think Arizona, Buffalo, and Edmonton have some late 1sts/early 2nds. Not sure if any of them would want to make a move for Werenski and Provorov but it would be nice for the Devils to get some extra picks. It seems like this draft is going to have some decent forwards available in the first two rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 This is an interesting scenario. I think Arizona, Buffalo, and Edmonton have some late 1sts/early 2nds. Not sure if any of them would want to make a move for Werenski and Provorov but it would be nice for the Devils to get some extra picks. It seems like this draft is going to have some decent forwards available in the first two rounds. Arizona, Buffalo and Edmonton's picks depends on where Chicago, the better of Tampa/St.Louis or Pittsburgh finish, respectively. So all of them should be 20 or lower. Number 7 or 8 overall for 20+ and an early second round pick doesn't seem like enough to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 If somehow Hanifin slipped that far, perhaps it could land RNH with something else that isn't that valuable but not useless either. The implication is that it would take a lot more to land Hall, I don't know what, but Hannifin, if he's there would be a plausible start. You do know that Edmonton wants to be good at some point, right? That trading something like RNH for a 1st round pick this year just sets them back even farther? Their 2nd line center this year is Derek Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 You do know that Edmonton wants to be good at some point, right? That trading something like RNH for a 1st round pick this year just sets them back even farther? Their 2nd line center this year is Derek Roy. A lot would depend on if they land one of McDavid or Eichel, which is a pretty good possibility. If that happens they immediately have a first line center that's probably better than RNH right now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayday Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 How I'd rank the forwards at the moment: 1. McDavid 2. Eichel 3. Strome 4. Marner 5. Barzal 6. Rantanen 7. Zacha 8. Meier Add in a atleast one of Hanifin, Werenski, and Provorov and its safe to say NJ will be getting a top forward no matter what. But if we miss out on the big 4 I really want Barzal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.