SterioDesign Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) Based on those numbers, one could argue that Brunner's was one of the better deals. He produced more per dollar than a lot of guys on that list. And allow me to add this...if we are going to start waiving guys who "aren't working out", half of our Albany roster will be up with the Devils soon. And I'm not sure I am against that. well you can't look at it black on white like that, if you look at it production wise.... sure. But he was not playing the PK and there's a bunch of stuff others guys are doing that are not showing. production is not everything but i still think he had skills that could help us. That being said he was one of the guy who could beat a guy one on one. Was one of the guy who could skate the puck up and get in the offensive zone. Production wasnt great for a guy who's role was strictly scoring goals... but you if you look at those numbers, he was getting less ice time and less money than the rest of the guys and was kind of on par with the rest in term of production based on that. He's gone strictly cause he and Deboer hated each other im pretty sure Edited December 7, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils11274 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Was in Albany Tonight. Did not see him anyplace. was a scratch tho. I asked moose if he was here he said no. so who knows. have to wait a day or two to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Brunner has been terrible since he got here, this is not a big loss, hope the kids get some chances in his place.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrthemike Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 of course but he was getting 2.5m for 2 seasons... what player has been "good enough" for us? (well the above 1million guys) Last 2 seasons so far: Brunner 2.5m - 13g in 77 Zubrus 3.1m - 15g in 109 Clowe 4.8m - 8g in 46 Zajac 5.7m - 22g in 103 Henrique 4m - 32g in 96 Elias 5.5m - 20g in 90 Jagr 3.5 - 28g in 108 Ryder 3.5 - 22g in 107 Ruutu 3.5 - 8g in 45 to me Henrique and Jagr are the only 2 that did alright based on what they should be bringing I agree. Waiving Brunner does not appear to be a good hockey decision. Half the team should be waived if that's what it was. This was clearly a personality conflict issue and this is how they are dealing with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I agree. Waiving Brunner does not appear to be a good hockey decision. Half the team should be waived if that's what it was. This was clearly a personality conflict issue and this is how they are dealing with it. Thing is Brunner is far worse in his own zone than any of the people on his list. I think he also got one of, if not the most favorable zone starts and still can't make much of it. I really don't see why Devils fans are up in arms about this. This is almost like waiving a crappier Ryder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oconnellrules Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 It's a shame the Havlat experiment isn't working out either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 I agree. Waiving Brunner does not appear to be a good hockey decision. Half the team should be waived if that's what it was. This was clearly a personality conflict issue and this is how they are dealing with it. it was definitely a personality issue, but just looking at goals scored is completely oversimplifying the problem- Brunner brings absolutely nothing else to the team if he doesn't score. Guys like zubrus, ruutu, etc contribute elsewhere to justify this decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrthemike Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 it was definitely a personality issue, but just looking at goals scored is completely oversimplifying the problem- Brunner brings absolutely nothing else to the team if he doesn't score. Guys like zubrus, ruutu, etc contribute elsewhere to justify this decision. I'm not saying he wasn't bad, I'm saying it's a not-so-great hockey decision and totally a personality decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) it was definitely a personality issue, but just looking at goals scored is completely oversimplifying the problem- Brunner brings absolutely nothing else to the team if he doesn't score. Guys like zubrus, ruutu, etc contribute elsewhere to justify this decision. Thats not entirely true. He was one of the guy who could skate in the puck and beat guys one on one to get the puck deep in the zone on the breakout. Most of our guys are getting in the zone (super slow) tryyyyyyyyyyyy to go around the dman around the hashmarks... then realize he won't make it... then stops.... then he has to figure out another play or wait for the rest of the guys to make a square pass. A player playing average to mediocre offensively but playing well defensively will always have a spot in NJ no matter how dry he is on the offence.... But the other way around and you're out of town. There should be a better balance there but in NJ it's always all about the D. i mean...ultimately you have to score goals to win and you'll always have a goalie and d behind you as a forward. Edited December 8, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitico12 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Brunner will report to Albany. He is stupid if he doesn't because he would be walking away from his $2.5 mil salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devlin Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 He always has his clothing line to fall back on Sent from my TAB2 using TapaTalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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