jagknife Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Good. Love Lou but I've been waiting for this team to get a new identity for years. I feel like I've watched the same game for 25 years. Even if the team evolved with the game, but it's obvious Lou hasn't quite gotten the pulse of, imo. We've had glimmers of a new identity or changing mentality but then they vanish. It's extremely frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 @BradGFeldman: Per source Adam Oates name being discussed as possible Devils HC. Really going all out for McDavid if true. I like it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Oates? fvck that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) 2012 wasn't a fluke. I hate that sh!t. It was a really good team. And don't throw away Parise and Kovalchuk as "didn't help matters." We lost our Toews/Kane, Crosby/Malkin, Sedins, Ovie/Backstrom and so on.....No team in our position would've survived. No other GM would let his 2 top players walk and go to free agency either. all those teams managed to keep those guys, weird Edited December 26, 2014 by SterioDesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoekster316 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Pete was one of the least of our issues. The team will probably get marginally better now and will have a surge with the shakeup, but really a coaching change will not change the fact that our team is old, slow and lacks a lot of top talent. Agreed - and just enough to knock us out of contention for McDavid/Eichel. No other GM would let his 2 top players walk and go to free agency either. Kovy retired. He didn't leave via free agency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitico12 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Bad move. As much as PDB gave me the sh!ts on a constant basis, I would rather have seen the season play out the way it was and then have a total house cleaning at the end of the year. We still have the following problems - Salvador / Ryder / Zubrus / Clowe / Elias / Jagr / Zidlicky Havlat / Gomez - all an average age of around 34 years old. The only salvageable forwards are: Henrique / Josefsson / Zajac / Cammaleri We are fVcked for a long time boys...just sit back and watch with interest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Agreed - and just enough to knock us out of contention for McDavid/Eichel. Kovy retired. He didn't leave via free agency. I said let them go to free agency... Did kovy went to free agency yes or no? Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 SD you're certifiable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) This doesn't make sense either. You can't go all out for McDavid, you could conceivably go all out for Eichel - but even so there's a lottery. if they wanted to go "all in" for McD, whatever that means - wouldn't you keep Pete on all year? You can argue that switching DeBoer to Oates will make things worse (making things better for us in the McDavid race), WHILE getting the heat off Lou/ownership in such a way where they can say "We made a change and it didn't work out." Getting rid of DeBoer will shut the fanbase up for a month or two and there's no way Oates will turn this team around, I can only see him doing worse, which is maybe what they're gunning for at this point. Edited December 26, 2014 by DJ Eco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils01 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Why not charbaneau? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I said let them go to free agency... Did kovy went to free agency yes or no? Right. You're gonna pull a muscle if you keep stretching that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokar Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I could see Stevens getting the heading coaching job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 You're gonna pull a muscle if you keep stretching that far. Dude ive been stretching for years. Dont worry for me here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Why not charbaneau?I prefer red wine myself. Bad move. As much as PDB gave me the sh!ts on a constant basis, I would rather have seen the season play out the way it was and then have a total house cleaning at the end of the year. We still have the following problems - Salvador / Ryder / Zubrus / Clowe / Elias / Jagr / Zidlicky Havlat / Gomez - all an average age of around 34 years old. The only salvageable forwards are: Henrique / Josefsson / Zajac / Cammaleri We are fVcked for a long time boys...just sit back and watch with interest... I don't know how salvageable Josefson is at the moment. Edited December 26, 2014 by coldply123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Lou wouldn't fire himself so DeBoer had to go. The timing sucks as it did with McLean. Attendance would have dropped after the first of the year if this change wasn't made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caron14 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Cool No more Deboer. I can watch devils hockey once again. My speculation, Jacques Lemaire will coach our team for the end of the year. Next year Guy Bouvher is coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Lou wouldn't fire himself so DeBoer had to go. The timing sucks as it did with McLean. Attendance would have dropped after the first of the year if this change wasn't made. It still will drop. This is just the obvious move for now to buy some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) I said let them go to free agency... Did kovy went to free agency yes or no? Right. Just stop...please. Kovy 'went to free agency' when we traded for him as a rental to win a Stanley Cup. What were they going to do, sign him when he got off the plane from Atlanta? They had to use the 30 games plus playoffs as a trial period to see if he was going to work out enough for them to give big money to (and for him to want to stay here). That - and him bolting on a signed contract to go to Russia - are both VASTLY different than Parise leaving. And even he was more or less a rental to try to win a Cup too, which nearly worked. Besides this is the coaching thread, don't hijack it with your broken record agenda. Edited December 26, 2014 by NJDevs4978 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I said let them go to free agency... Did kovy went to free agency yes or no? Right. MB would be proud of this statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I don't think Lou is toast just yet. But If they miss next year when it's clearly not a rebuilding year, he'll be gone. Not a rebuilding year???!!! these next two years better be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSkirt Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Meh, I still think we're not making the playoffs. We're too damn old. At least this change will keep me interested for another month or two...who knows maybe it will be like 2010-11 all over again..... ! Please let's not have PDB go onto a good career ala Julien.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losdiablos103 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Kowalsky time! But seriously, it needed to be done, but Petey is reaping what Lou fvcked up.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Had to be done. But I lobed Deboer when he had the right pieces to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Actually a little bit surprised, only because Lou waited so long to pull the trigger...the fact that PDB made it this far had me thinking maybe Lou didn't believe PDB was primarily to blame. At any rate, the current roster is bad...Scotty Bowman would have a hell of time trying to get much out of this year's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Not a rebuilding year???!!! these next two years better beLou isn't at the age and the position based on recent history to be given the reigns of engineering the turnaround.I don't agree with Sundstrom at all. This is now a rebuild and it's clear as day. We can't keep denying what this team is and playing the wait and see game. Three years now of subpar results. Four playoff misses in five years. Edited December 26, 2014 by coldply123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Actually a little bit surprised, only because Lou waited so long to pull the trigger...the fact that PDB made it this far had me thinking maybe Lou didn't believe PDB was primarily to blame. At any rate, the current roster is bad...Scotty Bowman would have a hell of time trying to get much out of this year's team. It's not really about blame...the team just stopped responding to him, public protestations aside. When you get whipped by BAD teams, that's a sign that you need a defibrulator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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