Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Wow did David get lucky there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 And he did his job. Need a double in the gap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 fvck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Oyiee...at least they ran Jansen's pitch count up, hopefully SOMEONE can catch up with his heat in the ninth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 At least Wright is clearly turning in good at bats. Duda get fvcking going in the 9th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 At least Wright is clearly turning in good at bats. Duda get fvcking going in the 9th He could've been called out on those ball 3 and ball 4 pitches very easily. He got some good fortune in that last AB. To the bottom of the ninth we go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Anyone else feeling like this is Game 5 here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Anyone else feeling like this is Game 5 here? Yeah, just feels like this is Kershaw's night not to be spoiled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Thought that Murphy ball had a better chance off the bat Game 5 here we come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Anyone else feeling like this is Game 5 here? No because deGrom can match Greinke pitch for pitch. It's a toss up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Anyone else feeling like this is Game 5 here? No cause deGrom-Greinke's a pick' em game practically. The Mets can win Game 5 out there. Just sucks they couldn't at least give the home fans finally a moment of celebration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I misinterpreted DP26's question. Yeah, think Game 5 is a toss-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) fvck...to LA we go. Kudos to Kershaw. Edited October 14, 2015 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 What sucks is two more nights of waiting to make another cross-country trip. Even if we somehow get out of that then we have to make another cross-country trip home and face Arrieta less than 48 hours later. I'll take the latter part of that bargain though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Yeah, not going to be bitching about anything if the Mets take Game 5...except for Wright and Duda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Matz, one bad inning. The opposing pitcher no less. I don't know if he gets another Start if the Mets win game 5. He didn't really earn it. I actually think Colon has, though. But he's proven to be very valuable out of the pen. I know game 5 will be very intense. Greinke is due to get fvcked up one of these days. Maybe Thursday is the day... fvck...to LA we go. Kudos to Kershaw. At least it starts at 8. Edited October 14, 2015 by capo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Honestly though I was worried about Matz anyway cause he hadn't pitched much the last few weeks...he was fine all things considered, and should be better if he gets another chance in the next round. The question is (and we're two days and one big win away from worrying about it) is wither Harvey...if they follow through with that whole pitch him once a series then he's only pitching Game 4 and Matz would have to pitch 3 and 7. Edited October 14, 2015 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Honestly though I was worried about Matz anyway cause he hadn't pitched much the last few weeks...he was fine all things considered, and should be better if he gets another chance in the next round. The question is (and we're two days and one big win away from worrying about it) is wither Harvey...if they follow through with that whole pitch him once a series then he's only pitching Game 4 and Matz would have to pitch 3 and 7. I thought he would be better. You can't lose that battle to Kershaw to start that rally. He's going to be awesome. He didn't get enough innings this year. The Mets waited too long to bring him up and then he got hurt. I would've have like to have seen Niese jettisoned earlier and Matz in there, it didn't happen. The Mets are going to need some retooling no matter what happens thi as fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) If I can have just one request from the baseball gods, if we lose game 5 can I not see Turner or Rollins get the game winning hit? (i'm assuming Utley will lose his appeal and be officially suspended by Thursday) It was bound to happen, Kershaw was going to win a postseason game sooner or later. He really nutted up and got the job done tonight. Mets had poor swings all night, and after the 1st inning really worked very few good quality AB's. They swung at balls, they swung early, they didn't get Kershaw out early enough. Really he showed no signs of being on 3 days rest. NONE. Not confident or despondent about game 5. Greinke on 4 days rest, deGrom on 5. I have faith in deGrom. Hopefully our bats come alive. Duda is so freaking due. I hate those 2 out hits and the Dodgers gut a ducksnort from Gonzalez and then a 2 out double on a 2-0 hanging curveball to Turner. Gun to my head I'd have to say LA. Bad things usually happen to the Mets in situations like this and I don't see why that should change. Edited October 14, 2015 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I thought he would be better. You can't lose that battle to Kershaw to start that rally. He's going to be awesome. He didn't get enough innings this year. The Mets waited too long to bring him up and then he got hurt. I would've have like to have seen Niese jettisoned earlier and Matz in there, it didn't happen. The Mets are going to need some retooling no matter what happens thi as fall. The above seems overcritical to me. For one, the Mets were really asking a lot of Matz last night...though there was clearly the hope that he'd be lights-out, he was far from a sure thing. I did agree with the move to have him pitch the game...I can't consider him to be a worse alternative than Colon or Niese...they were all wild cards. As for "waiting too long" with Matz...let's face it, yanking a guy like Niese from the rotation is a big deal. He's making some good coin. And he did pitch well for about 2 months when his job on the line. Don't get me wrong...I'm not a Niese guy at all, and I've detailed why multiple times. And I think the Mets have to at least explore trying to move him this offseason or even during next season. And to be fair, I was critical of the Mets seeming to take their sweet time bringing Matz up...but unfortunately a lot goes into these decisions. Supposedly Sandy tried to move Niese during the season on a few occasions, with no takers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 According to a NYP article I read, Utley's appeal hearing won't take place until this Monday. And Collins said that it's possible that Harvey could pitch more than one game in the NLCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 The above seems overcritical to me. For one, the Mets were really asking a lot of Matz last night...though there was clearly the hope that he'd be lights-out, he was far from a sure thing. I did agree with the move to have him pitch the game...I can't consider him to be a worse alternative than Colon or Niese...they were all wild cards. As for "waiting too long" with Matz...let's face it, yanking a guy like Niese from the rotation is a big deal. He's making some good coin. And he did pitch well for about 2 months when his job on the line. Don't get me wrong...I'm not a Niese guy at all, and I've detailed why multiple times. And I think the Mets have to at least explore trying to move him this offseason or even during next season. And to be fair, I was critical of the Mets seeming to take their sweet time bringing Matz up...but unfortunately a lot goes into these decisions. Supposedly Sandy tried to move Niese during the season on a few occasions, with no takers. I know that Matz is going to be a stud. The Kershaw at bat drove the inning and he can't let that happen at any level. The problem with SA's trading philosophy is he's always trying to get something for nothing. (Which is great when it works...) He knew he had to trade a pitcher for offense but he either didn't want to take on the money or deal the player because he undervalued the return. Niese and Colon rumors have been out there for 2 years... He needed to make a spot for syndergaard last year and didn't do it either. Though, in Thor's case he needed that year with Frankie V. Let's not give SA a pass here. The only reason why he made the deadline deal was because his back was against the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) They didn't think Syndergaard was mentally ready last season (he was also injured for a bit)...supposedly he was treating AAA like a brief stop and thought his getting called up last season was a formality...I think they kept him down all season to show him he was going to have to earn his way up. Supposedly that (combined with Matz starting to get more attention and buzz) got Noah to kick it into a much higher gear, and show up with much more of an edge. If you've been reading my posts, you've got to know that I've often killed Sandy as much as I've killed David Wright (who is really getting off way too light for doing damned near nothing outside of one big hit this series). But you can't have it both ways with Sandy. The fact is he DID make important deals when a lot of people thought he would do very little, if anything (and I'll admit it, I thought he was in 'next year' mode yet again), and those moves have factored heavily into winning a division title and two playoff games. Who cares about the reasons why? You have to give some credit where it's due...for all the accusations that he was going to let this season die on the vine, he ultimately didn't. Also keep in mind that the money issues aren't all on Sandy. I think he wanted to do a lot more than he did in the offseason leading up to the 2014 season, and was not happy about the amount he had to spend. I'm never going to be a huge Sandy fan...I think he can be condescending and arrogant, and for a guy who's supposed to find diamonds in the rough, he's had some butt-ugly signings, and hasn't seemed to be terribly proactive at times...but he did a fine job bringing the endlessly dangling carrot that was 'next year' into THIS year. Put it this way...would it have come as any great shock if Sandy basically went into "Oh well, so much for 2015" mode, didn't make any big deals, told Wright to shut it down and be ready for 2016, and tried to make a couple of very minor deals? Proactive Sandy was a big step forward for this organization. Edited October 14, 2015 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Put it this way...would it have come as any great shock if Sandy basically went into "Oh well, so much for 2015" mode, didn't make any big deals, told Wright to shut it down and be ready for 2016, and tried to make a couple of very minor deals? Proactive Sandy was a big step forward for this organization. In a vaccum no, but things really had reached a critical mass from a PR standpoint where it didn't matter what Sandy and ownership wanted or didn't want to do, they had to do something or the fans would have had a full-blown mutiny a la the furor pre-Piazza trade. Sandy sure as **** didn't want to trade for Cespedes but there was no going back after the Gomez fiasco, something big had to be done especially at that point. Edited October 14, 2015 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 In a vaccum no, but things really had reached a critical mass from a PR standpoint where it didn't matter what Sandy and ownership wanted or didn't want to do, they had to do something or the fans would have had a full-blown mutiny a la the furor pre-Piazza trade. Sandy sure as **** didn't want to trade for Cespedes but there was no going back after the Gomez fiasco, something big had to be done especially at that point. I agree there is no way he wanted to make the Cespedes trade. He absolutely had to from the PR point. A part of me also thinks he backed out of the Gomez trade because he overpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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