msweet Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 NEWARK — How much clout do three Stanley Cup rings bring, even it's been 12 years since the last championship? Enough, NJ Media Advance has learned, that Lou Lamoriello will remain the Devils' general manager, even if the team misses the playoffs for a third straight season and for the fourth time in five years. Owners Josh Harris and David Blitzer have enough faith in Lamoriello's ability to return the Devils to Stanley Cup contenders that he will keep his position despite the belief by some critics that it's time to move on. ..."My view has been, 'Why tamper with success?' " Harris said this past fall in a meeting at the NJ Advance offices. "When we hand out $40-plus-million on contracts, rest assured we're spending a lot of time talking, discussing, analyzing. http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2015/02/lou_lamoriello_will_remain_devils_gm_even_if_team.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 That wasn't really a question to me. He is not getting fired and he's obviously not ready to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 That wasn't really a question to me. He is not getting fired and he's obviously not ready to go.Same. He's done too much for the organization to not give him another chance. And we know he wouldn't want to leave the team with the current state it's in. When he does go, it will either be because he's in the ground or he has the team set up well for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) If he makes it to next season than it has to be his last. I'm not against Lou but if we miss next season than its 4 seasons in a row and 5 of the past 6. That is completely unacceptable. Edited February 28, 2015 by Satans Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv4Life Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I expected this as much. But it's still disappointing and this club will continue to stay stagnant on and off the ice for the near future with him in charge. Missing the playoffs 3 straight years and 4/5 with the loss of income should be a red flag for normal ownership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Unless he does something egregious, he will never be fired. I think it's clear these owners will remain very hands off with hockey ops. Apparently, Scott and Hugh hardly speak to Lou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 This article is a joke. You have quotes from the fall and the past...O'Neil's quote was from before the season. Harris and Blitzer didn't have any current comments for this article. Then you've got a "few" anonymous sources that turn out to be two (a Western Conference club executive and an NHL executive, according to Chere), both of whom are simply giving opinions. I'm not saying that I think Lou is gone (he's probably not), but I'm definitely not using this article as any reason to think he's 100% safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Too bad. Thank god you aren't in charge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Chere has been wrong.before and almost non-stop now going on a few years, but it does look like Lou is still here this offseason. Disappointing there's no accountability with the new owners, oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 More Chere something-from-nothing stuff that he throws together. Lou will most likely be back, but those Harris quotes are from 6 months ago. The rest is speculation from "sources". I think ownership gives Lou this season as a pass, but I'm pretty sure they are going to want some results relatively soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msweet Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share Posted February 28, 2015 I know a few Devils's execs on the business side and they are hoping Lou is gone soon - maybe even suggested it will happen this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 IF it's true it's the one way they can ensure the apathy continues to grow around an already relatively small fan base. Boring ass .500 hockey, boy has the bar reached new lows with what's acceptable from this org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 More Chere something-from-nothing stuff that he throws together. Lou will most likely be back, but those Harris quotes are from 6 months ago. The rest is speculation from "sources". I think ownership gives Lou this season as a pass, but I'm pretty sure they are going to want some results relatively soon. They gave him a pass last season and the season before that under the VBK nonsense. I think they're pushing him to bow out gracefully or accept a transition and changes to some scouting and development areas. They don't want to fire him outright but he may be pushed to where he decides it's best to walk away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I don't think Chere has any sources within ownership. Why would he? So this is just your standard Chere clickbait but it worked on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I don't think Chere has any sources within ownership. Why would he? So this is just your standard Chere clickbait but it worked on me.Same, can't stand his click bait garbage but I'm still guilty of reading the articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 I don't think Chere has any sources within ownership. Why would he? So this is just your standard Chere clickbait but it worked on me. It sounds like he just talked to a couple other people around hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William D'Aquila Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I know a few Devils's execs on the business side and they are hoping Lou is gone soon - maybe even suggested it will happen this summer. The same executives that have had so much success with the Knicks, 76ers, and Pelicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AEWHistory Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Same. He's done too much for the organization to not give him another chance. And we know he wouldn't want to leave the team with the current state it's in. When he does go, it will either be because he's in the ground or he has the team set up well for the future. Let me preface this by saying I am, and always will be, grateful for everything that LL has done for this franchise. But his history with the devils is becoming an increasingly poor argument for keeping him. It's almost starting to starting to resemble MB's retirement debacle. LL has been here for a quarter of a century for this team has been clearly declining in many respects for a decade. Now think about that... that's 40% of his entire tenure has been a long, slow, painful decline punctuated by a really nice but totally aberrant SC run. In that time the scouting, drafting, and talent development have fallen to shambles. LL did a lot for this franchise, but it's over. For whatever reason he simply does not have "it" any longer. It happens to everyone eventually and this franchise has given him WAY more leeway in this regard than almost any other franchise would in any other situation. Can anyone else imagine another GM underperforming this badly and this long and still being allowed to keep his job? Edited March 2, 2015 by AEWHistory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 It's really a weird question to ask at this point. No team would say anything different. "Oh yeah we're gonna can him for sure, he's just playing out the string right now". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Let me preface this by saying I am, and always will be, grateful for everything that LL has done for this franchise. But his history with the devils is becoming an increasingly poor argument for keeping him. It's almost starting to starting to resemble MB's retirement debacle. LL has been here for a quarter of a century for this team has been clearly declining in many respects for a decade. Now think about that... that's 40% of his entire tenure has been a long, slow, painful decline punctuated by a really nice but totally aberrant SC run. In that time the scouting, drafting, and talent development have fallen to shambles. LL did a lot for this franchise, but it's over. For whatever reason he simply does not have "it" any longer. It happens to everyone eventually and this franchise has given him WAY more leeway in this regard than almost any other franchise would in any other situation. Can anyone else imagine another GM underperforming this badly and this long and still being allowed to keep his job? Not saying you specifically are doing this, but now lumping Lou's struggles into a decade when the team was still consistently competitive for the first half of it is unfair, and feels like an attempt to make Lou's more recent tenure sound worse than it really was. A lot of their defensive stalwarts retired or left just before this "decade" stretch. Finding replacements was not going to be easy, and as we've seen, it wasn't. Yet Lou still managed to put passable defenses on the ice (thanks in part to Marty turning in some of his best goaltending after the 2004-05 lockout)...in the regular season, anyway. Come playoff time, those guys did get exposed, can't argue that...lots of series where the Devils looked slow and shaky as a team. Lou tried to find some long-term solutions via UFA (like Tallinder and Volchenkov), but they didn't work out as well as he would've hoped. That being said, if I said I felt completely comfortable with Lou being the guy to lead the Devils back to playoff contention, I'd be lying. I fully understand why some fans feel like it's time to move on, and as much as I appreciate what Lou did while he was here, I can't say I'll be heartbroken if he moves on. And this "article" might as well have been about nothing, because that's what Chere brought to the table with this one: NOTHING. How do quotes that Chere dusted off from several months ago have any relevance now? What, Harris and Blitzer can't possibly change their minds? They could've made those statements when the Devils were 6-3-2 and looking pretty good for all we know. A lot has changed since then. Lou clearly made moves to win this season and to get into the playoffs. H&B gave him considerable freedom to spend to make that happen. It hasn't. If I'm them, can I afford to have blind confidence that Lou can turn this around? I don't necessarily buy that he's as safe as some believe...I think missing the playoffs this season might be the end of Lou's "leeway". Edited March 2, 2015 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 if we are not a vastly improved team in two years , lou will have to go...alright, vastly might be a stretch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 lou gets this draft, and probbably next years also as it will be too early to say he F'd up another forward pick. one thing is becoming apparent , lou is on the clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmann422 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Let me preface this by saying I am, and always will be, grateful for everything that LL has done for this franchise. But his history with the devils is becoming an increasingly poor argument for keeping him. It's almost starting to starting to resemble MB's retirement debacle. LL has been here for a quarter of a century for this team has been clearly declining in many respects for a decade. Now think about that... that's 40% of his entire tenure has been a long, slow, painful decline punctuated by a really nice but totally aberrant SC run. In that time the scouting, drafting, and talent development have fallen to shambles. LL did a lot for this franchise, but it's over. For whatever reason he simply does not have "it" any longer. It happens to everyone eventually and this franchise has given him WAY more leeway in this regard than almost any other franchise would in any other situation. Can anyone else imagine another GM underperforming this badly and this long and still being allowed to keep his job? you are certainly entitled to that opinion and I totally understand how ugly these past 3 years have been. As CR already said we were a competitive team all the way up to the Maclean year. That was really Lou's first major misstep, but even then he recognized it and fixed it and nearly got us into the playoffs (in fact the second half of that season was one of the most exciting times to be a devils fan IMO)What I refer to in my post about Lou's meaning to the team is that the franchise would have left NJ a LONG time ago if not for the success that Lou single handedly brought here. The franchise exist snow only because Lou was able to out a competitive team on the ice year after year. IMO three of four bad years does not totally wash away all that he's done. I do feel as though his time is limited here and he needs to turn things around quickly, but IMO he's earned another year. Edited March 2, 2015 by dmann422 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I guess I owuld expectthem to say that now, although I hope they are looking at the last 5 to 8 years and keeping him on a really short leash, 3 years of no playoffs is unheard of in NJ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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