William D'Aquila Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Are you picking names out of a hat? It's nice when you're so specific about how he fits the team needs. A defensive defenseman, yes, I can live with us needing that, but what is the basis for coming up with Wilson as an answer, UFA listings? Well, he is a UFA, and when he is healthy he can skate and take the body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 We should have signed Ryan Wilson to this deal. Why? We need a defenseman d-man who can skate. Why, I am bored? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well, he is a UFA, and when he is healthy he can skate and take the body. He clearly has showed that he consistently has injury issues though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS#4-Life Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Gelinas, Moore, Larsson, Hrabarenka, Severson, Merrill, Helgeson, and Mozik all 24 or younger. dont forget santini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 dont forget santini Since I don't want to star another thread just for this question, can anyone think of a good NHL defenseman since the lockout that put up he same kind of anemic point totals as Santini has? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Since I don't want to star another thread just for this question, can anyone think of a good NHL defenseman since the lockout that put up he same kind of anemic point totals as Santini has? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk McDonagh's were at least comparable his freshman year. Thing to remember about Santini is that Boston College is pretty loaded on D - Matheson, Hanifin, and Ian McCoshen were all higher picks than Santini and have produced more. Matheson is gone and hopefully Hanifin follows. That would leave Santini and McCoshen to be the top pair and hopefully get some PP time. Edited July 3, 2015 by Triumph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 McDonagh's were at least comparable his freshman year. Thing to remember about Santini is that Boston College is pretty loaded on D - Matheson, Hanifin, and Ian McCoshen were all higher picks than Santini and have produced more. Matheson is gone and hopefully Hanifin follows. That would leave Santini and McCoshen to be the top pair and hopefully get some PP time. Not just college, but the point production at the USNDT level was very underwhelming also. But I suppose if there is ever going to be an exception to the rule, Santini might be it. But it would make me feel better if he put up maybe 20 points this year. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) Not just college, but the point production at the USNDT level was very underwhelming also. But I suppose if there is ever going to be an exception to the rule, Santini might be it. But it would make me feel better if he put up maybe 20 points this year. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk He's not an offensive defenseman. Hes a stay at home/shut down guy. You're looking at Santini from the wrong angle. Edited July 3, 2015 by ghdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 McDonagh's were at least comparable his freshman year. Thing to remember about Santini is that Boston College is pretty loaded on D - Matheson, Hanifin, and Ian McCoshen were all higher picks than Santini and have produced more. Matheson is gone and hopefully Hanifin follows. That would leave Santini and McCoshen to be the top pair and hopefully get some PP time. Santini was top pairing with Hanifin until he got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils731 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 He's not an offensive defenseman. Hes a stay at home/shut down guy. You're looking at Santini from the wrong angle. Santini could be an exception, but even defensive players usually score decently at lower levels. You don't find many good defensive forwards or defenseman who never put up points anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louismydad Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I feel like a Santini-Severson would be deadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Santini could be an exception, but even defensive players usually score decently at lower levels. You don't find many good defensive forwards or defenseman who never put up points anywhere. This is what I was getting at. Even Volchenkov put up pretty good point totals in the AHL. It seems like it's a post lock out phenomenon, but generally defenseman that don't maintain a half point per game total in the CHL by age 18 don't pan out in the NHL. College and the USNDT have something of a different dynamic though. But even if the point totals are an issue, Santini seems like one of the few who has never put up good point totals at any level will be more than Fraser type in the NHL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaira_Devil_#9 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Isn't Santini supposed to be elite in his own end? To the point that the fact he can't play in the offensive zone has become irrelevant. Then impression I got from reports was you can place him with a player like Gelinas and his game in his own end is so good it will make up for all the shortcomings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 This is what I was getting at. Even Volchenkov put up pretty good point totals in the AHL. It seems like it's a post lock out phenomenon, but generally defenseman that don't maintain a half point per game total in the CHL by age 18 don't pan out in the NHL. College and the USNDT have something of a different dynamic though. But even if the point totals are an issue, Santini seems like one of the few who has never put up good point totals at any level will be more than Fraser type in the NHL. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Santini's skating ability is going to be the reason he's an NHL player. Tri has said it before too. If the offense in his game translates to the NHL it will be due to his skating that it happens, but wasn't it most defenseman who became regular NHLers were point-per-game players in the juniors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Santini's skating ability is going to be the reason he's an NHL player. Tri has said it before too. If the offense in his game translates to the NHL it will be due to his skating that it happens, but wasn't it most defenseman who became regular NHLers were point-per-game players in the juniors? Yes. Adam Foote, noted non-offensive producer at the NHL-level, was just shy of PPG in his draft year in the OHL and just above it in draft+1. Same with just about anyone who becomes anything at the NHL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) From what I've heard, Santini is a ++ skater in all directions, like Severson. It's weird because a lot of scouts have praised his breakout passes and say he has decent offensive instincts, but obviously the production isnt there. I wonder what gives? And he passes every eye test. Watching him in the WJC and at BC, he always looks like such a polished prospect. He probably wouldve benefited more from the CHL than college where he some say he's overzealous Edited July 3, 2015 by SMantzas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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