MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 It's not just him. It's the entire organization. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's the biggest problem in a sea of problems. He is the one who will ultimately pay when it's all said and done. The fact that this team comes out as flat as they do every week is on him. But really aren't we all use to this by now?Yeah... I kind of figured this is what would happen. It's the Dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Tannehill also doesn't seem to care whether the team wins or loses. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Tannehill also doesn't seem to care whether the team wins or loses. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Tannehill was not part of the solution yesterday, and I fear in order for him to be a part of the solution, he needs a lot of help. He's never gonna be a 'take the team on his back' type. I've come to terms with that. But he isn't nearly as bad as you make him out to be. He's good. He isn't great, and likely never will be. He's good enough to win with, but you need pretty much everything around to him to be operating at maximum efficiency. Edited September 21, 2015 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Daniel Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 What coaches are really out there to replace Philbin? It seems that if you do it in season, you generally can't bring in someone from the outside, at least I can't think of any examples of that. For this offseason, I suppose there's the possibility that Ross dumps a truck load of money on Cowher's front lawn, although that ship has almost certainly sailed. If Harbuagh has a rough go at it at Michigan, and he can get out of his contract, that's another possibility. Otherwise, I'm seeing a retread of the Mike Smith sort, which wouldn't be that terrible I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If you were to remove the yards rushed from Tannehill.. you'll come up with the number 89. Heading into Week 3, the Dolphins RB's collectively have rushed for 89 yards! Meanwhile Tanny has thrown nearly 600 yards.. 67% completion percentage (with 5 dropped passes) ZERO interceptions, with a QB rating of 101.7 through two games. How the fvck is he getting any blame for anything on a 1-1 team???! The whole thing is on Tanny's shoulders, with absolutely no running game to work with in Miami, since late last season. It's extremely difficult for teams to build rhythm when they're not getting support from their RB's. (go ask Brees) Teams stack 8 in the box, and the quarterback has to play near-perfect football. Instead of asking "what isn't Tannehill doing" --ask yourself: What is he doing wrong? --because the answer is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 What coaches are really out there to replace Philbin? It seems that if you do it in season, you generally can't bring in someone from the outside, at least I can't think of any examples of that. For this offseason, I suppose there's the possibility that Ross dumps a truck load of money on Cowher's front lawn, although that ship has almost certainly sailed. If Harbuagh has a rough go at it at Michigan, and he can get out of his contract, that's another possibility. Otherwise, I'm seeing a retread of the Mike Smith sort, which wouldn't be that terrible I guess. We're getting Eric Mangini. Because Tannenbaum and Ross. That's what we'll be stuck with. I'd almost rather keep Philbin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 If you were to remove the yards rushed from Tannehill.. you'll come up with the number 89. Heading into Week 3, the Dolphins RB's collectively have rushed for 89 yards! Meanwhile Tanny has thrown nearly 600 yards.. 67% completion percentage (with 5 dropped passes) ZERO interceptions, with a QB rating of 101.7 through two games. How the fvck is he getting any blame for anything on a 1-1 team???! The whole thing is on Tanny's shoulders, with absolutely no running game to work with in Miami, since late last season. It's extremely difficult for teams to build rhythm when they're not getting support from their RB's. (go ask Brees) Teams stack 8 in the box, and the quarterback has to play near-perfect football. Instead of asking "what isn't Tannehill doing" --ask yourself: What is he doing wrong? --because the answer is nothing. Tannehill has been good, and there is absolutely no doubt the offense needs to be WAY more balanced... But Tannehill hasn't been much of a difference maker. He at times looks tentative. Like I said before, he's much better than Daniel makes him out to be, but I'm beginning to think Tannehill will never be the type to will his team to wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Also, Suh was apparently 'freelancing' at times yesterday and openly defying Coyle. He isn't the first either. Coyle's scheme is absolute GARBAGE. Consider that yesterday was the FIRST GAME EVER that Bortles wasn't sacked at least once. He was sacked 5 times last week. ARE YOU fvckING KIDDING ME?! This ENTIRE COACHING STAFF needs to go... Edited September 21, 2015 by MadDog2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Same ole fins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Francesa of all people summed up Tannehill pretty well. He's fine, nothing special and certainly not a top ten QB, maybe something like 18-20. What he certainly is not is a winner, not even in college, and I get the sense he doesn't really care about the final score or the team's record so much. Overall, I think I'm basically done with this team for a while. I'm not dropping the $100 to see them play the Jets, and won't make the effort to watch their games when they're not broadcast in the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Francesa of all people summed up Tannehill pretty well. He's fine, nothing special and certainly not a top ten QB, maybe something like 18-20. What he certainly is not is a winner, not even in college, and I get the sense he doesn't really care about the final score or the team's record so much. Overall, I think I'm basically done with this team for a while. I'm not dropping the $100 to see them play the Jets, and won't make the effort to watch their games when they're not broadcast in the area. I think Tannehill is smack in the middle- I would rate him top 15, he's better than 18-20. But he hasn't displayed one iota of clutch ability in 4 years, and doesn't seem to have the ice water running through his veins certain guys do. I wouldn't go as far as to say he 'doesn't care' about the team's record, but a little more intensity would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Like I said before, he's much better than Daniel makes him out to be, but I'm beginning to think Tannehill will never be the type to will his team to wins. I don't mean to call out anyone, but Daniel clearly has an agenda against the guy. 50+ TD's, over 8,000+ yrds between 2013 & 2014.. and the guy has played every single fvcking snap since he was drafted. As a fan of a team with no real quarterback, it angers me to the point where I can't see straight when I see a fanbase cannibalize the good QB they already have. There's plenty of blame to throw around if you're a Dolphins fan. The lack of support from the running game.. your lifeless head coach who finds new ways to lose each and every week. Newly acquired Suh, (who's been here for as long as a cup of coffee stays hot) taking digs at the staff. How about upper-management? --who've trotted out 4 OC's over the past 5 years? TAKE YOUR PICK. But the 27 year-old franchise QB, who's played 50 of 50 games sine 2012.. and has kept his nose clean off the field to boot? Yeah.. he doesn't deserve anything but adulation from the Dolphin-faithful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I don't mean to call out anyone, but Daniel clearly has an agenda against the guy. 50+ TD's, over 8,000+ yrds between 2013 & 2014.. and the guy has played every single fvcking snap since he was drafted. As a fan of a team with no real quarterback, it angers me to the point where I can't see straight when I see a fanbase cannibalize the good QB they already have. There's plenty of blame to throw around if you're a Dolphins fan. The lack of support from the running game.. your lifeless head coach who finds new ways to lose each and every week. Newly acquired Suh, (who's been here for as long as a cup of coffee stays hot) taking digs at the staff. How about upper-management? --who've trotted out 4 OC's over the past 5 years? TAKE YOUR PICK. But the 27 year-old franchise QB, who's played 50 of 50 games sine 2012.. and has kept his nose clean off the field to boot? Yeah.. he doesn't deserve anything but adulation from the Dolphin-faithful. And last year he had a very effective running game, and it got us to 8-8. Upper management, Hickey and Tannenbaum anyway, have been pretty good. They've drafted effectively, and brought in a good offensive coordinator. Ok, he's better than Geno Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hooray for small victories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 And last year he had a very effective running game, and it got us to 8-8. Upper management, Hickey and Tannenbaum anyway, have been pretty good. They've drafted effectively, and brought in a good offensive coordinator. Ok, he's better than Geno Smith or Ryan Fitzpatrick. Hooray for small victories. Lazor isn't a good offensive coordinator. His play calling so far this year has been horse sh!t and his complete lack of commitment to establishing a running game is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Lazor isn't a good offensive coordinator. His play calling so far this year has been horse sh!t and his complete lack of commitment to establishing a running game is a joke. Last year the running game was good. Miller was a 1000 yard rusher. He calls plays where receivers are open, and Tannehill just misses them. He's not Mike Martz running the Rams offense, but he's good enough that he's not really part of the problem. If you can somehow snatch a Josh McDaniels to replace him, then fine. But you could otherwise probably do a lot worse than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Last year the running game was good. Miller was a 1000 yard rusher. He calls plays where receivers are open, and Tannehill just misses them. He's not Mike Martz running the Rams offense, but he's good enough that he's not really part of the problem. If you can somehow snatch a Josh McDaniels to replace him, then fine. But you could otherwise probably do a lot worse than him.Tannehill missed a grand total of two throws yesterday. Two. QB's- yes, even the elite ones- miss throws every week. Tannehill is not at fault for sh!tty play calling. The fact that you blame him for literally everything shows your bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezer34 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Last year the running game was good. Miller was a 1,000 yard rusher. Nearly 300 yards came off garbage time in blowout losses last season Daniel. Miller racked up over 100 yards last season, in the Week 4 loss to Kansas City, down 34-15.. and nearly 200 yards in the 37-24 loss to the Jets in the final game of the season. Of the remaining 14 other games in 2014, he averaged 58 yrds per game.. never once breaking the 100 yrd mark. In 2013 the Dolphins had the 26th best running game in the league. Your running game was ranked 17th in 2012.. Tannehill's rookie year. It's currently 30th thus-far in 2015. Edited September 21, 2015 by Beezer34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi, I'm VALUE! Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Yeah, I'm over the coaching staff as a whole. Slow starts, not showing up to play vs. "bad" teams, 13 penalties this week after 9 last week (with a coach that, according to the TV announcers, stresses the penalty-free game), and players outright ignoring coaches after being here for a total of 6 weeks...these coaches are being tuned out, in Week freakin' 2 of the NFL season on a team tied for the division lead, no less. if Miami's 1-3 at the bye, someone's losing their head, and honestly I hope they junk Coyle and Philbin if that happens (though I could easily see Coyle getting kicked only). No idea who'd replace them, but if the season's lost already, we might as well see if Lazor can HC, maybe have someone else call the damn plays while he manages the whole team. Also, Vernon should be sat down for at least a half next week. You don't make that kind of gaffe and go unscathed if accountability is part of your mantra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Yeah, I'm over the coaching staff as a whole. Slow starts, not showing up to play vs. "bad" teams, 13 penalties this week after 9 last week (with a coach that, according to the TV announcers, stresses the penalty-free game), and players outright ignoring coaches after being here for a total of 6 weeks...these coaches are being tuned out, in Week freakin' 2 of the NFL season on a team tied for the division lead, no less. if Miami's 1-3 at the bye, someone's losing their head, and honestly I hope they junk Coyle and Philbin if that happens (though I could easily see Coyle getting kicked only). No idea who'd replace them, but if the season's lost already, we might as well see if Lazor can HC, maybe have someone else call the damn plays while he manages the whole team. Also, Vernon should be sat down for at least a half next week. You don't make that kind of gaffe and go unscathed if accountability is part of your mantra. Sadly we aren't tied for the division lead... And as far as a replacement for Coyle, I'd want Jim Schwartz. But even if they fired Coyle in-season, they'd probably go with an in-house replacement like Duffner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Nearly 300 yards came off garbage time in blowout losses last season Daniel. Miller racked up over 100 yards last season, in the Week 4 loss to Kansas City, down 34-15.. and nearly 200 yards in the 37-24 loss to the Jets in the final game of the season. Of the remaining 14 other games in 2014, he averaged 58 yrds per game.. never once breaking the 100 yrd mark. In 2013 the Dolphins had the 26th best running game in the league. Your running game was ranked 17th in 2012.. Tannehill's rookie year. It's currently 30th thus-far in 2015. I think part of the Dolphins problem is they don't even attempt to run the ball all that much really...Lazor goes to the Andy Reid school of only run when you have to throw in a change of pace. Miller had exactly ZERO twenty-carry games last year and it's not like they were really rotating in another back after Moreno got hurt. And he was 5+ YPC so it's not like he was unproductive either. And yeah Tannehill's a bit better than Daniel gives him credit for being but by the same token he kind of gives off a Jay Cutler like vibe where his numbers will always look better than his actual production. Edited September 21, 2015 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Ok Tannehill apologists, what's going to be your excuse for the worst QB in football this week? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estreetcrew3 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Daniel this whole team collectively is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Daniel this whole team collectively is bad But it's never ever the QBs fault. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Does anyone doubt that Tannefail is just there to collect a paycheck and he does not care at all whether the team wins. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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