CommonDreads 1,461 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 12 hours ago, EdgeControl said: I'll take a sniper. who has the best wrist shot in the 10 to 15 pick range??... we need guys who can bury it when it on their stick Tyson Jost has the 2nd best shot in this draft behind Laine imo, so that's who you should be hoping for based on that criteria. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nessus 496 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Jost ahead of Matthews? I admittedly don't know as much about this draft class as you do, but I was under the impression that Matthews and Laine were pretty close as far as shot goes. Also, what are people's opinions on Chychrun? Many people aren't so high on him anymore and I was wondering why. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vadvlfan 199 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'd be very happy if Chychrun fell to us, but I doubt he will.  Jost may not be there as well. If Keller & Jost are both there, I prefer Keller.  All that I've read about him is he's more likely to be a pro than some of the others. I watch highlights & I'm enamored with lots of players. Some of us might be disappointed with our pick, but we gotta trust Castron/Shero . Lots of folks don't want McLeod for some reason. Not sure why. He might be a better pro than expected. Tough call  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lateralous 622 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) If Nylander gets past Calgary, I hope Shero dangles one of our thirds to try and move up a few spaces.  A team like Arizona that wants to go defense might be willing to slide down.   I think item #2 in the article below is interesting.  It someone in the 5-10 range reaches for Brown early, that really makes getting one of Nylander/Keller more realistic. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/10-takeaways-2016-nhl-scouting-combine/ Edited June 5, 2016 by Lateralous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerzey 679 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm seeing more and more mock drafts with us taking McLeod. Is he really all that bad? Everything I read about him says he should be a 1c. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Jerzey said: I'm seeing more and more mock drafts with us taking McLeod. Is he really all that bad? Everything I read about him says he should be a 1c. McCleod is very fast and people like his skills, but he put up disappointing numbers for his skill set. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sokar 33 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Daniel said: McCleod is very fast and people like his skills, but he put up disappointing numbers for his skill set. So he is the perfect Devils pick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0asterleav1ns 195 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 McCleod skates really really really fast.... the rest of his game isnt up to par imo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lateralous 622 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 McLeod doesn't have great hands which is something you can't teach Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerzey 679 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Thanks guys. I'm still hoping for Keller but I'm starting to think he's gone by 11. I don't know anything about McLeod, just that I've seen both him and Keller's name come up most as our pick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CommonDreads 1,461 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 (edited) 14 hours ago, nessus said: Jost ahead of Matthews? I admittedly don't know as much about this draft class as you do, but I was under the impression that Matthews and Laine were pretty close as far as shot goes. Also, what are people's opinions on Chychrun? Many people aren't so high on him anymore and I was wondering why. IMO Jost's shot beats out Matthews', kid can seriously fire it. As far as i'm concerned the top 5 shots in the draft are: 1. Patrik Laine 2. Tyson Jost 3. Auston Matthews 4. Jesse Puljujarvi 5. Tage Thompson EDIT: And as far as Chychrun goes, I think it's more so that others have passed him than his game has slipped. In particular, Sergachev has really secured himself as the best defenseman in this draft for me, his season was simply better than Chychrun's and that was also the case with players like Tkachuk and Dubois being able to pass Chychrun, they just simply had very good seasons and put themselves in good spots because of it. I'm still a big Chychrun fan, I see him probably going around 7th or 8th at this point though. Edited June 5, 2016 by CommonDreads 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Derlique 582 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 How good does this look?: Chychrun/Sergachyov-Larsson Greene-Severson NJ needs a RW or C soo badly though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Derlique 582 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 I guess it's nearly impossible to know since NJ doesnt have a beat writer ATM, but any info on who we interviewed at the combine this past weekend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vadvlfan 199 Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 26 minutes ago, SMantzas said: I guess it's nearly impossible to know since NJ doesnt have a beat writer ATM, but any info on who we interviewed at the combine this past weekend? Although TG attended combine last 2 years (I think) I don't think he knew which players interviewed w/ Conte etc. He didn't give us any more info say Mike Morreale. He would be in a scrum when reporters were talking to McDavid/or Eichel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EdgeControl 853 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 20 hours ago, SMantzas said: How good does this look?: Chychrun/Sergachyov-Larsson Greene-Severson NJ needs a RW or C soo badly though. there's no reason we wont take a defenseman that we think is best player available. as long as he's clearly viewed as better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CommonDreads 1,461 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 I think we'd have to at least take a long hard look if one of Sergachev, Chychrun, or Juolevi is available at 11th, left side of our defense looks weak for the future if Merrill doesn't pan out into a serviceable guy, all 3 of the left shot defenseman projected to go high in this draft should become at least Top 4 defenders. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, CommonDreads said: I think we'd have to at least take a long hard look if one of Sergachev, Chychrun, or Juolevi is available at 11th, left side of our defense looks weak for the future if Merrill doesn't pan out into a serviceable guy, all 3 of the left shot defenseman projected to go high in this draft should become at least Top 4 defenders. Lots of possibilities if two of them are sitting there. One, it likely means that Edmonton was not able to deal its number 4 pick. If that's the case, make a strong pitch for RNH with the 11th pick and something else. You could also take one of them and try and sign a quality free agent like Loui Erickson. You'd hate to pass up on someone like Keller or Jost (maybe both of them have been selected, which makes the choice easier), but you figure that someone like Erickson will be better than anyone you're drafting at that spot for the next three years or so. Erickson's concussion issues, however, are pretty frightening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerzey 679 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 There are a couple of topics on HF suggesting Larsson + for RNH +. Regardless of who or what it's for, I'm against giving up anything of good value for RNH. Not only does he seem to get injured a lot but he also seems like he's going to top out as a good 2C. I think we're deep enough, or potentially deep enough, with 2C's like Henrique, Zajac (for the near future), and possibly Quenneville, and maybe even Zacha. RNH might be a little better than them but IMO its not worthwhile for us to give up good assets to add him to what we already have. If the do want to use the 11th as a trade chip I'd rather they go in a different direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Derlique 582 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 22 hours ago, vadvlfan said: Although TG attended combine last 2 years (I think) I don't think he knew which players interviewed w/ Conte etc. He didn't give us any more info say Mike Morreale. He would be in a scrum when reporters were talking to McDavid/or Eichel. IIRC, it got out that NJ interviewed guys like Domi, Shinkaruk and Zibanejad, but I have no idea if that was a Morreale type or Chere/TG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel 1,653 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Jerzey said: There are a couple of topics on HF suggesting Larsson + for RNH +. Regardless of who or what it's for, I'm against giving up anything of good value for RNH. Not only does he seem to get injured a lot but he also seems like he's going to top out as a good 2C. I think we're deep enough, or potentially deep enough, with 2C's like Henrique, Zajac (for the near future), and possibly Quenneville, and maybe even Zacha. RNH might be a little better than them but IMO its not worthwhile for us to give up good assets to add him to what we already have. If the do want to use the 11th as a trade chip I'd rather they go in a different direction. The problem with trading Larsson for RNH is that it's a zero sum proposition for the Devils. If the defense were as stacked as Nashville it would make sense like Seth Jones for Johnansen did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lateralous 622 Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 (edited) Here's another mock draft that has us taking Sergachev. Â http://ohlprospects.blogspot.ca/2016/06/2016-nhl-mock-draft.html?m=1 Edited June 6, 2016 by Lateralous Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jerzey 679 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Daniel said: The problem with trading Larsson for RNH is that it's a zero sum proposition for the Devils. If the defense were as stacked as Nashville it would make sense like Seth Jones for Johnansen did. I'm just not sold on RNH being worth trading for. He'd probably be our best center but I personally don't think he's that much better than Henrique. We need a true 1c if we're trading good assets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mort4345 7 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 I think the odds of adding Sergachev are extremely thin. A) I think he's going to be selected before the Devils pick and B) the Devils need offense so badly that I really see them selecting one of Jost, Keller or Brown (assuming no crazy Devils' trades). I also think that Chychrun is going to fall down the draft further than most people think ... and, in my opinion, he's the most likely of the top three defensemen the Devils might have an opportunity to draft. As such, I'd be really shocked if Juolevi or Sergachev are still on the table when the Devils head to the podium. Hence, I see nothing but a forward in the first round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T0asterleav1ns 195 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 Chychrun strikes me as a 3rd pairing D. Do not want at 11. Sergachev I would not mind, but I really do not think hes still going to be available at 11. Im not very familiar with Juolevi... but id rather pick a forward with 11 and hope we can get a left side'd D with our 2nd or 3rd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SterioDesign 3,148 Posted June 7, 2016 Share Posted June 7, 2016 i'd be quite upset if we draft a dman with our pick. i know everything about the BPA and all. Drafting is always a gamble so what you think the BPA may be might not be it. so at least try to fill a need. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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