mrthemike Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Thoughts? Looks like the Hawks might be looking to get rid of him. Should the Devils be interested? We have the cap space. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/five-teams-have-called-blackhawks-about-trading-for-patrick-kane--report-171920024.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Thoughts? Looks like the Hawks might be looking to get rid of him. Should the Devils be interested? We have the cap space. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/five-teams-have-called-blackhawks-about-trading-for-patrick-kane--report-171920024.html It's been discussed in the general offseason thread. The Score, which isn't quite like Hockeybuzz rumor mongering, suggested that the Devils as one of three teams that would make sense as a destination, whatever that means. Still, unless the Hawks are going to give him away, no one is trading for him if and until he's cleared of the charges. And at that point, the Hawks would keep him anyway. And even if that's not the case, based on what the Hawks would ask for, what the Devils have, and what the Devils are missing, it would basically be a zero sum return. Although I don't have the inclination to see if it would work capwise, the Islanders would make the most sense if it ever came to pass. They have prospects like Barzal, Del Colle and Ho Sang, who they may not even have room for in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 yes we should kane must be smarter and more calme, but he is one of the best player in nhl with great expirience in his years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 the Islanders would make the most sense if it ever came to pass. They have prospects like Barzal, Del Colle and Ho Sang today discipline problem from chicago for future discipline problem with 1st round pick from islanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 It would be a gamble to get him at this point. Unless the Blackhawks get spooked and trade him low and he gets cleared in the investigation it would blow up in our face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellOnICE Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Yes, but if he's not charged with anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) We don't have the assets. It would set the rebuild back IMO. I thin k Buffalo is a good destination for him. It's where he's from and they have a lot of assets to get the deal done. Edited September 2, 2015 by Jerzey Devil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would love to see the comments around the hockey media and social media if Patrick Kane were Russian, or even not North American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 We don't have the assets. It would set the rebuild back IMO. I thin k Buffalo is a good destination for him. It's where he's from and they have a lot of assets to get the deal done.Yeah, Buffalo. He never gets in trouble when he's there. That'll get him on the straight and narrow lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyvegas51 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 He'd still be the best Devil. Even in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 We don't have the assets. It would set the rebuild back IMO. I thin k Buffalo is a good destination for him. It's where he's from and they have a lot of assets to get the deal done. Again Chicago ain't trading him unless they think there is a good chance he'll get charged. If that's true they ain't getting alot for him as they'd be selling low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyall Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would think there is a good possibility for them to trade him. They were already not fully out of cap hell and judging off what happened to the Kings with Voynov, they are going to have to carry his cap hit without his services. That was what made the Kings not make the playoffs last year; imagine what that would do with 10.5 million in dead cap. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Why trade for someone else's problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I would think there is a good possibility for them to trade him. They were already not fully out of cap hell and judging off what happened to the Kings with Voynov, they are going to have to carry his cap hit without his services. That was what made the Kings not make the playoffs last year; imagine what that would do with 10.5 million in dead cap. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. Why trade for someone else's problem? You gamble that his problems will blow over and your left with a hell of a player at 26 years old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) today discipline problem from chicago for future discipline problem with 1st round pick from islanders You have no evidence that Ho-Sang will be a behavioral problem. You're guessing/speculating. You're also forgetting how much players can change and how they are perceived at age 18. fvcking Jon Merril was said by SCOUTS even that he had behavioral issues, when in reality, he was probably busted for smoking pot, underage drinking or something minor with Michigan. fvcking 18 y/o Jack Eichel chugged a beer after saying, "I'm coming for you Buffalo." and no one batted an eye at that. I agree that Kane has had some issues and probably not the nicest person, but he is probably dealing with some alcoholism or something. Every situation that he's been in trouble with the media, it seems that alcohol has played a role (punching a cabbie, rape speculation). I personally LOVE how the Voynov situation was dealt with by the NHL. If charges are filed, I expect the same thing to happen with Kane and the Blackhawks. It could really handicap the Blackhawks. It speaks volumes to the kind of league that the NHL is when you compare the Voynov situation along with the NFL's Ray Rice situation. In comparison, the NHL had a much rightful and just treatment of the situation, while the NFL dreadfully whiffed. They whiffed so hard. Edited September 2, 2015 by RizzMB30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyall Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 You gamble that his problems will blow over and your left with a hell of a player at 26 years old You have no evidence that Ho-Sang will be a behavioral problem. You're guessing/speculating. You're also forgetting how much players can change and how they are perceived at age 18. fvcking Jon Merril was said by SCOUTS even that he had behavioral issues, when in reality, he was probably busted for smoking pot, underage drinking or something minor with Michigan. fvcking 18 y/o Jack Eichel chugged a beer after saying, "I'm coming for you Buffalo." and no one batted an eye at that. I agree that Kane has had some issues and probably not the nicest person, but he is probably dealing with some alcoholism or something. Every situation that he's been in trouble with the media, it seems that alcohol has played a role (punching a cabbie, rape speculation). I personally LOVE how the Voynov situation was dealt with by the NHL. If charges are filed, I expect the same thing to happen with Kane and the Blackhawks. It could really handicap the Blackhawks. It speaks volumes to the kind of league that the NHL is when you compare the Voynov situation along with the NFL's Ray Rice situation. In comparison, the NHL had a much rightful and just treatment of the situation, while the NFL dreadfully whiffed. They whiffed so hard. And it could be worse than the Voynov situation. I agree that the NHL handled his very well because isn't he also suspended as well this year? Obviously, the NHL had the benefit of going 2nd while the NFL went in blind of what public outrage would be. But it could be worse for Kane because this is the second offense and a much more egregious one. It's one thing to try to project if an 18 year old is a knucklehead that will grow out of it or if they are going to turn into a 26 year old that is accused of sexual assault. That is just speculation for scouts and the front office to do the best they can to evaluate the prospect. But trading for an player that has everything up in the air in the hopes that the gamble pays off just feels sleezy to me, which is why I said I wouldn't want the Devils to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guadana Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 You have no evidence that Ho-Sang will be a behavioral problem. You're guessing/speculating. You're also forgetting how much players can change and how they are perceived at age 18. fvcking Jon Merril was said by SCOUTS even that he had behavioral issues, when in reality, he was probably busted for smoking pot, underage drinking or something minor with Michigan. fvcking 18 y/o Jack Eichel chugged a beer after saying, "I'm coming for you Buffalo." and no one batted an eye at that. I agree that Kane has had some issues and probably not the nicest person, but he is probably dealing with some alcoholism or something. Every situation that he's been in trouble with the media, it seems that alcohol has played a role (punching a cabbie, rape speculation). I personally LOVE how the Voynov situation was dealt with by the NHL. If charges are filed, I expect the same thing to happen with Kane and the Blackhawks. It could really handicap the Blackhawks. It speaks volumes to the kind of league that the NHL is when you compare the Voynov situation along with the NFL's Ray Rice situation. In comparison, the NHL had a much rightful and just treatment of the situation, while the NFL dreadfully whiffed. They whiffed so hard. Sorry, but i was only joking. Nothing more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 I personally LOVE how the Voynov situation was dealt with by the NHL. If charges are filed, I expect the same thing to happen with Kane and the Blackhawks. It could really handicap the Blackhawks. It speaks volumes to the kind of league that the NHL is when you compare the Voynov situation along with the NFL's Ray Rice situation. In comparison, the NHL had a much rightful and just treatment of the situation, while the NFL dreadfully whiffed. They whiffed so hard. Yeah but don't you think that is partly because of the backlash of the NFL's handling of the Ray Rice case? See how the NHL handled the Varlomov situation pre-Rice. Your point that the NFL is the worst is correct but the NHL's handling of the Voynov situation had more to do with league image than their rightful concern for battered women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 We don't have the assets to trade for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Yeah but don't you think that is partly because of the backlash of the NFL's handling of the Ray Rice case? See how the NHL handled the Varlomov situation pre-Rice. Your point that the NFL is the worst is correct but the NHL's handling of the Voynov situation had more to do with league image than their rightful concern for battered women. You're correct, it was likely done for league image more than anything else. But the major difference was that Voynov was suspended by the Kings first, and then sanctioned by the NHL if my understanding is correct. Charges against Varlamov were dropped, Voynov is served time. I don't think you can attribute those outcomes simply to "league image". The Kings have been doing shady things when considering Voynov and richards Sent from my C6725 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I would love to see the comments around the hockey media and social media if Patrick Kane were Russian, or even not North American.Don Cherry is still probably using this to forward his Canadian nationalist propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 We don't have the assets to trade for him. Tend to totally agree here certainly nobody up front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantaRay Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Chicago is fed up with him and we could probably get him without giving up much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim777 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I agree with everyone who has already stated we don't have what it would take to get him, even if they are fed up with him.. He's a streaky player, like a lot of players are, but when he's hot he's the most dangerous player in the league. We simply don't have the talent to get him, and if we did put a package together there's be no one left for him to play with. Chicago just needs a stronger, shorter leash on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Chicago is fed up with him and we could probably get him without giving up much. I doubt that. There would be at least 28 other teams that could offer more without giving up much. Chicago is fed up with him and we could probably get him without giving up much. I doubt that. There are 28 other teams that could offer more than us without having to give up much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roomtemp Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Again they'd be selling low as he might be in jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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