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I admire the way you read between the lines of our very unbiased friend It's often so subtle that i dunno how you notice anything 

So, after the Yandle > Florida trade: "In the span of recent trades, the New York Rangers have traded this year's 1st round pick, 3 2nd round picks, a 4th round pick, Duclair, Saarela and Moor

I wonder if SD compares other things in his life to Parise contract.  "hey man, that girl was checking you out all night but left the bar with a different guy.... Why didn't you lock her up soone

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Believe me they are out there. They believe that Lou should have managed this team until he died in his office chair. They really cannot let go of Lou.

Thankfully that group has gotten smaller and quieter, but I think it will come back again if Toronto wins tonight.

I was as a big a Lou supporter as anyone when he was here, but even I knew it was time for him to go a year or so before he did.

Shero's changes and philosophy are exactly what this organization needed. It was long over due for our team to enter the 21st century. I'm not sure how anyone can still prefer how things were the last few years before Shero.

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So indications are that when expansion comes, the expansion draft is going to be based on salary, that is, you have to expose a certain amount of salary.  Since expansion won't come until at least after next season, I wonder if teams that have the cap space will wildly overpay some marginal players on say two or three year deals with the aim of exposing them to the expansion draft.  There's a gamble of course that expansion doesn't actually happen or your guy doesn't get picked and you're stuck with some crappy deals.  I suppose another idea would be to stock up on players on LTIR, but I imagine the league would close that loophole. 

 

EDIT:  Thinking through it, I"m not sure if my idea to protect better players on your roster by signing marginal players to inflated deals works, or if it has the opposite effect. 

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I was as a big a Lou supporter as anyone when he was here, but even I knew it was time for him to go a year or so before he did.

Shero's changes and philosophy are exactly what this organization needed. It was long over due for our team to enter the 21st century. I'm not sure how anyone can still prefer how things were the last few years before Shero.

 

I still am a Lou supporter and believe he should have never been let go.  It's just not relevant discussion because there is no reason to beat a dead horse.  That is my disclaimer for people that say that Shero's changes are so different than what Lou did.  We are still an extremely low event team with the fewest shots in the league.  It is way too early to tell whether Shero has done anything really and that is why I try not to muddle up my love for Lou with my learning to love what Shero is doing.  I can't really applaud anything Shero has done because I sincerely doubt Stempniak is a landmark acquisition for the club.  That's not knocking him, it's just saying he's building his team the way he wants and I just have to see how he does it.  Thirty games (even a couple years) are hardly something to use to anoint a GM a success or failure.

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I still am a Lou supporter and believe he should have never been let go. It's just not relevant discussion because there is no reason to beat a dead horse. That is my disclaimer for people that say that Shero's changes are so different than what Lou did. We are still an extremely low event team with the fewest shots in the league. It is way too early to tell whether Shero has done anything really and that is why I try not to muddle up my love for Lou with my learning to love what Shero is doing. I can't really applaud anything Shero has done because I sincerely doubt Stempniak is a landmark acquisition for the club. That's not knocking him, it's just saying he's building his team the way he wants and I just have to see how he does it. Thirty games (even a couple years) are hardly something to use to anoint a GM a success or failure.

Can you applaud him for Palmieri? Because if not, then you're just letting yourself be blinded by an agenda.
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Can you applaud him for Palmieri? Because if not, then you're just letting yourself be blinded by an agenda.

My "agenda" is not knocking Shero or anyone, just that it's premature to claim it a success or failure. What's your agenda against Lou?

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My "agenda" is not knocking Shero or anyone, just that it's premature to claim it a success or failure. What's your agenda against Lou?

I have none, I love Lou to death for everything he did for this franchise, and there should be a statue of him built one day as well. But I can also admit it was time to move on, and so far, I'm very pleased by what Shero and the new coaching staff have done. Hopefully they will continue to build on the culture Lou instilled here, because Lou made this franchise synonymous with winning.
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Edmonton has put Mark Fayne on waivers, per Bob McKenzie.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/674637611076558849

Wow... If Edmonton- who is desperate for d-men- is putting you on waivers, it must be really bad. Fayne was pretty solid for the most part here... I'm surprised his game has seemingly fallen off to this extent.
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No, Edmonton is just really bad at player evaluation. Fayne hasn't played that great in Edmonton but he doesn't belong on waivers, they've just marginalized him from day 1 of the new regime.

This is also true, it IS Edmonton we're talking about, and Edmonton is incredibly stupid. I know Fayne is overpaid, but I'd be surprised if someone didn't claim him.
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I'd take Fayne over Schlemko, it isn't even a question in my mind.

This allows you to separate Larsson from Greene, and makes our defense far stronger.

In what alternate universe that you live in has Schlemko been a bad defenseman this year? I'd take Fayne over Merrill, gelinas, sure. Over Schlemko?

Lol.

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This is also true, it IS Edmonton we're talking about, and Edmonton is incredibly stupid. I know Fayne is overpaid, but I'd be surprised if someone didn't claim him.

 

It doesn't make sense for anyone to claim him.  I'd be amazed if he were claimed.  If Edmonton's willing to waive him, it means they almost certainly have to be thinking about buying him out next summer, so picking him up at full price is just poor GMing.  Edmonton should have to pick up some percentage of his salary to move him.

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Spot on. Shero's biggest changes have come off the ice rather than on it. For the most part these are still Lou's players.

 

I'm starting to see some concerning aspects when it comes to Hynes. Specifically, our team's trouble with a heavy forecheck. This doesn't make sense, as our strength is our ability to skate the puck out of the d-zone. To me this screams a tactical change of sorts must be made.

 

This is now the third time you have come back to this forum after being banned twice.  Last time you pledged your support for the Leafs when Lou left.

 

Why come back again beetlebum / WDA?

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It doesn't make sense for anyone to claim him.  I'd be amazed if he were claimed.  If Edmonton's willing to waive him, it means they almost certainly have to be thinking about buying him out next summer, so picking him up at full price is just poor GMing.  Edmonton should have to pick up some percentage of his salary to move him.

Yeah but that takes a chance you won't get him.

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Yeah but that takes a chance you won't get him.

 

This isn't a chance.  Fayne is a player on a big multi-year contract.  These players slide right through waivers.

 

The Oilers almost certainly have tried to trade him before resorting to this move.  They already said they were going to assign him to Bakersfield afterwards.

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