MadDog2020 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hynes very terse in the press conference. He was pissed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I wonder if the devils were actually a good team (even with their recent record I fully expect them to not be a good team) if this loss would of been chalked up to "oh well the breaks didn't fall our way and onto the next one" kind of loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Expecting perfection is just going to frustrate you. That last goal wasn't too bad. Just a crappy bounce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'll take it. This would be a hell of a season to somehow fluke out a bunch of lucky wins. NJ played well and lost, it's what I figure they will do a lot this season. Kalinin is a monster along the boards - I'd like to see what he could do when he's not there, but he controls the puck very well in that area. I don't know how he was successful in the KHL, because that's a much smaller part of that style of play - once he figures out some more subtle parts of board play he'll be even more effective. Right now he looks like a spitting image of Dainius Zubrus. In all, NJ's board play and play in general was so much better than the first week of the season - this team is controlling the puck well in the offensive zone and generating some offense off of that. It's not a ton - I think that's where they will struggle is people with the dynamism to get the puck off the boards and into scoring areas, and that's where they miss Jagr, but they did a real nice job tonight there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Just got back from the game. Largely unimpressed with that arena. Anywho, the Devils didn't play too well in this one but it is remarkable how poor their shooting luck has been 5v5. I think it's got to be somewhere around 4% which is half of what league average is. Thought Palmieri, Kalinin and Schlemko played well tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Without Tavares we are an equal team, (based on two early games) and they are supposed to be a legit PO contender... so we're only a top 5 scorer away it was good to see a response after the bad first period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) The initial novelty of Barclays Center has already worn off on me (and I've only been to the two preseason games last year and this year before last night's game) and it is an absolute sh!tty arena to watch hockey in. The bad attendance makes sense now. Edited November 4, 2015 by DJ Eco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The initial novelty of Barclays Center has already worn off on me (and I've only been to the two preseason games last year and this year before last night's game) and it is an absolute sh!tty arena to watch hockey in. The bad attendance makes sense now. Where you sit in there makes a gigantic difference. Best bet is middle or lower tier in the sections that are not limited view or facing in that off angle away from the rink (like sections 4 & 28). The upper deck all around sucks due to the angle and lack of lighting in the very uppermost areas. Overall while not great, it's obviously not built for hockey and they still have better food overall than the Rock. I know why they put the car in the corner, but it is distracting. I can't take my eyes off of it and will take more time to get used to it. Also while the pre-season game the camera angle was too high, the one they have been using this season is too low IMO. I was switching between the Devils/Islanders game and the Rangers/Caps game last night and it made the Rangers/Caps game look like they were shooting from the ceiling when I know it's not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 What's the panic meter on Severson? He's one of the worst defenseman on the team this year.Panic? He's 21 years old. Larsson had a period where he struggled and everyone wanted to trade him, remember that? Relax. Development is a process, especially with defenseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 My buddy was at the game last night and even center ice it's awful because of how absurdly steep it is. Even people who aren't fearful of heights are like...woah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 (edited) The upper deck all around sucks due to the angle and lack of lighting in the very uppermost areas. The upper deck was awful. I think there is only maybe 1 upper section (center ice) on each side of the rink that are minimally suitable for viewing hockey. I was in 222, and it was at a part of the rink where, in most arenas, it would begin to curve. But up there, you're perpendicular to about the line of the goaltender and everything to the left of that faceoff line, you really need to turn your body to see. Only thing Barclays has on Prudential Center are the amount of liquor bars, and being able to bring mixed drinks/wine to your seats. When you think about it, I'm not sure why you're not allowed to anywhere else. Beer's alcohol, a gin and tonic's alcohol, makes no difference. Edited November 4, 2015 by DJ Eco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 People here were anointing him a generational defenseman last season, this year he looks more like John Merrill. That doesn't concern you? To be fair, it was mostly one poster. The upper deck was awful. I think there is only maybe 1 upper section (center ice) on each side of the rink that are minimally suitable for viewing hockey. I was in 222, and it was at a part of the rink where, in most arenas, it would begin to curve. But up there, you're perpendicular to about the line of the goaltender and everything to the left of that faceoff line, you really need to turn your body to see. Only thing Barclays has on Prudential Center are the amount of liquor bars, and being able to bring mixed drinks/wine to your seats. When you think about it, I'm not sure why you're not allowed to anywhere else. Beer's alcohol, a gin and tonic's alcohol, makes no difference. And to add to that, they are real bars too. It's not that roll out and sqeeze together 2-3 of those beer/liquor carts and call it a bar sort of thing that the Rock does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 People here were anointing him a generational defenseman last season, this year he looks more like John Merrill. That doesn't concern you?Not really, no. Defenseman take time, as I've said 100 times before. There will be peaks and valleys. He's in a valley right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 People here were anointing him a generational defenseman last season, this year he looks more like John Merrill. That doesn't concern you? People were also concerned about Victor Hedman for the first 2-3 years of his career, and now look -- people consider him to be a top 3 defenseman in the entire league. It took him a handful of seasons to turn into the elite player everyone thought he would become. This could very well happen to Severson too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevils1214 Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Severson's expectations went from being just play well enough to not be sent down, to now being an important part of the team. I'm going to give it some more time before I panic because it's still early. I'm much more worried about Elias's return than Severson's slow start. Gelinas looks shaky though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 People were also concerned about Victor Hedman for the first 2-3 years of his career, and now look -- people consider him to be a top 3 defenseman in the entire league. It took him a handful of seasons to turn into the elite player everyone thought he would become. This could very well happen to Severson too. I always laugh when people complain about our young Defensemen. They take time! What is this, his sophomore season? Cmon...See Adam Larsson.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilly45 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 My buddy was at the game last night and even center ice it's awful because of how absurdly steep it is. Even people who aren't fearful of heights are like...woahI was in section 25 right on center ice, 10 rows from glass. If someone sits in front of your your view is greatly obstructed. Looking up to the 200 was like looking up a mountain. Horrible areana for hockey and esp for long island islander fans who now have to deal with 2 trains to get there (depending where you are on li) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Again, I understand that defenseman take time, but Severson looked like a phenomenal player IN THE NHL LAST YEAR and right now looks deserving of a healthy scratch. That's not impatience, that's regression. Not saying t isn't temporary, not saying he won't be a solid defenseman for us, but after last season he was being mentioned by many as a generational, unbelievable talent I'm not pressing the panic button, hell the safety cover isn't even off it. If I remember correctly, and work having me burned out already this week isn't helping, Larsson was good year 1, year 2 regressed, and has since recovered. Sure, it makes you get that uneasy feeling in the back of your mind, but give it time, at least another year, before we say, well fvck it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 So why the hell was that usher/security guard standing right in front of the damn glass in the Islanders defensive zone during almost the entire 3rd period. fvck was that annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 (edited) Larsson wasn't nearly close to Severson's caliber his first year. People were half-joking that we should trade Larsson for a bag of pucks, as recently as 13 months ago. Same with Merrill right now, and I'd put money on Merrill turning a corner and being an important defenseman for us by 2017. It's easy to rewrite history now that it suits a Severson debate, but a slight majority of the fanbase felt Larsson was a huge bust this time last year. I refuse to subscribe to that line of thinking re: Severson. Edited November 5, 2015 by DJ Eco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 People were half-joking that we should trade Larsson for a bag of pucks, as recently as 13 months ago. Same with Merrill right now, and I'd put money on Merrill turning a corner and being an important defenseman for us by 2017. It's easy to rewrite history now that it suits a Severson debate, but a slight majority of the fanbase felt Larsson was a huge bust this time last year. I refuse to subscribe to that line of thinking re: Severson. This. People were considering Larsson a huge blunder of a pick. Like all young defdnsemen, he just needed time to develop. Same with Severson. I also agree that Merrill hasn't reached his peak yet either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 This. People were considering Larsson a huge blunder of a pick. Like all young defdnsemen, he just needed time to develop. Same with Severson. I also agree that Merrill hasn't reached his peak yet either Merrill, like Severson, looked fantastic his first season. He "regressed" last season in a major way and still doesn't look anywhere near the way he played his first year. But that still doesn't worry me. Larsson should be the poster boy for us fans to understand the ebbs and flows that young defensemen will go through while they're learning on the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Am I in crazy town? Or are you just lacking reading comprehension skills? I am not calling Severson a bust. I am not saying we should trade him for a bag of pucks. I am saying that his regression so far this season is alarming, Zoikes, scoob. You asked what the panic meter is on Severson. My answer is not to panic. I'm not even that "concerned", if we're getting into semantics. I then pointed out a very recent player/situation where many Devils fans had "panicked" over, and were ultimately extremely wrong about, that's all. Not trying to put words in your mouth, I'm just answering your question; no, we shouldn't panic about Severson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louismydad Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Someone doesn't understand what a sophomore slump is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I am not calling Severson a bust. I am not saying we should trade him for a bag of pucks. I am saying that his regression so far this season is alarming, But its not, thats the point. His regression is the norm....Unless you are saying that he has been beyond awful such that his regression rate is through the roof (which would imply he is a bust or in need of some sort of intervention). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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