New York Mets 2016 Season Thread

['7']

d'Arnaud supposedly not back anytime soon. Out until the ASB if not after that.

He can't play catcher and may be too weak/brittle for baseball in general. Time to move on from him.

I would go out and make a push for Lucroy. I'll be harping on this all summer probably. 

And here is Wright just watching a curve for strike 3. Totally helpless and confused.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I think you gotta give Plaw a good long look first (6-8 weeks)...but I would definitely keep Lucroy on my radar.  With the year he's having, expect the Brew to ask for a lot. 

And yeah, I'm done with TDA.  Guy can't stay on the friggin' field and this problem goes back to the minors. 

['7']

Game. 

Well, if Harvey ever decides to not be a mediocre loser who tires and craps out on the 4th/5th...tomorrow is the day

 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

One more run and this one's over.  Bastardo at least Ks Harper.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

1 minute ago, '7' said:

Game. 

Well, if Harvey ever decides to not be a mediocre loser who tires and craps out on the 4th/5th...tomorrow is the day

 

If he struggles tomorrow...he's going to hear it walking off the mound.  He's the least likable of the starting pitchers...I think a lot of fans are tired of him and Boras.

Lagares finally looks like Lagares in CF...but that run just iced the game.

[NJDevs4978]

Three runs in the series, all on solo HR's.

And it looked like that was the moment where Murphy broke it open but Lagares made a Lagares-like catch to at least keep it within three runs.

Just now, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

If he struggles tomorrow...he's going to hear it walking off the mound.  He's the least likable of the starting pitchers...I think a lot of fans are tired of him and Boras.

Lagares finally looks like Lagares in CF...but that run just iced the game.

If he struggles tomorrow he's probably going on the DL with a real or phantom injury inside the next week.  He usually does amp it up for the Nats and Strausberg.

['7']

Unreal catch by Lagares, though at 4-1 with an O that's only capable of 5 hits maximum a game, tall order. Very tall.

[NJDevs4978]

2 minutes ago, '7' said:

Unreal catch by Lagares, though at 4-1 with an O that's only capable of 5 hits maximum a game, tall order. Very tall.

A hit, a walk and a three-run HR by Grandy, Conforto or a pitcher to be named later is probably their only chance of tying the game.

Of course they have to get the next out first, Bastardo walking the corpse of Ryan Zimmerman doesn't help.

Edited May 19, 2016 by NJDevs4978

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

Just now, NJDevs4978 said:

Three runs in the series, all on solo HR's.

And it looked like that was the moment where Murphy broke it open but Lagares made a Lagares-like catch to at least keep it within three runs.

Still early, but Sandy's going to have to explore a way to shake up the offense a little.  It's become so one-dimensional now it's becoming comical. 

I think a sit-down with Wright has to happen in the next couple of weeks if he doesn't show some serious improvement very soon. 

[NJDevs4978]

37 minutes ago, '7' said:

At this point...I dont see how he doesnt retire after 2016. He's trying, but the body cannot do what the mind is telling it do do. No range, weak arm, K's, can't get around on hittable fastballs.

It's almost over for good for DW. Unless perhaps surgery and a year off can help. 

I agree with you, and I wouldn't have thought it would come to it this soon for David.  But really the guy can't do anything but work out a walk (and how long is that going to last?) anymore.  I just don't see how if it's this bad NOW he's even going through one more year of this.  Yeah there's the money but David's got pride too, he's not going to want to become an A-Rod like pariah for his boyhood team.  And I'm sure the Mets and/or insurance'll take good care of him anyway.

[NJDevs4978]

lol I know the pen's been good for most of the season but does anyone want to throw a strike this inning?  Anyone?

['7']

25 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

I agree with you, and I wouldn't have thought it would come to it this soon for David.  But really the guy can't do anything but work out a walk (and how long is that going to last?) anymore.  I just don't see how if it's this bad NOW he's even going through one more year of this.  Yeah there's the money but David's got pride too, he's not going to want to become an A-Rod like pariah for his boyhood team.  And I'm sure the Mets and/or insurance'll take good care of him anyway.

I dont remember how quickly it came for Mattingly, but once his back acted up that was it regarding all semblance of power went...but the average was still there and he never struck out. 

Wright is hurting the team now. I pray Wilmer improves in the field and reaches his potential at the plate because Wright is now a backup. To step away from my fanatical fanhood...overall I feel awful and I wish a guy who bled and tried and did his absolute best for us in some dark dark times did not have to look like this. 

Mays did. But he wasnt a Met icon. Babe Ruth embarrassed himself plenty near the end, we saw it with Marty Brodeur but he had the hardware to fall back on. Heck Peyton Manning embarrassed himself plenty while being carried to a Super Bowl last year.

Wright...I fear there will be no happy ending here.

Edited May 19, 2016 by '7'

['7']

Nice Plawecki. Time to shine and a tee ball dribbler in front of the plate with the bases loaded.

 

[NJDevs4978]

lol that figures, can't even get a break on the wild pitch.  Of course that was the only way they were driving in a run cause noodle bat couldn't come through and Conforto's living up to the platoon moniker.

[NJDevs4978]

13 minutes ago, '7' said:

I dont remember how quickly it came for Mattingly, but once his back acted up that was it regarding all semblance of power went...but the average was still there and he never struck out. 

Wright is hurting the team now. I pray Wilmer improves in the field and reaches his potential at the plate because Wright is now a backup. To step away from my fanatical fanhood...overall I feel awful and I wish a guy who bled and tried and did his absolute best for us in some dark dark times did not have to look like this. 

Mays did. But he wasnt a Met icon. Babe Ruth embarrassed himself plenty near the end, we saw it with Marty Brodeur but he had the hardware to fall back on.

Wright...I fear there will be no happy ending here.

At this point I'd consider keeping Walker and having him play third after this year.  And I hate talking like David's past tense but really I don't see any way out of this for him now.  This is actually far worse than Mattingly's injury, I don't think Mattingly had spinal stenosis itself.

['7']

Conforto I think will eventually figure things out and be a legit good player...just as of now he still needs to make the adjustments, because the rest of the league has sure adjusted to him. 

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

11 walks issued by the Mets yesterday...in a Colon start no less.  One of those "huh?!" nights.  

Re:  Mattingly-Wright comparisons, Mattingly still was able to stubbornly put up some respectable numbers for a while (though he clearly wasn't the player he'd been prior to his back issues).  Wright just flat-out looks finished, and really should be batting 8th at this point.  

Any way you look at it, this is a mess.  Just gotta pray that he retires and the Mets can move on from Wright the player.  Wright the person will always have a place in the organization I'm sure...they'll find a role for him if he wants one.  

There's people who will say "The Mets already had a third baseman, but they let him go to the Nationals!", and that's about as unfair as it gets, for so many reasons that I won't even bother to list them.

[nmigliore]

Was at the game last night, first trip to Citi this year. Felt more like a mid-April game night game than mid-May, ugh. I really can't ever catch a break with weather in April/May games. I was in the second deck in LF; off the bat I thought for a slight second that Cespedes ball would get to me.  

I know the strikeouts are driving people up a wall but I still think Wright can contribute offensively. I think the bigger issues are the defense, which is really bottoming out with his age and chronic back problem, and -- although this isn't Wright's fault -- the Mets have terrible backup plans for him. Neither player is hitting this year, but this would've been an ideal season to have a veteran like Juan Uribe or Kelly Johnson on the roster again - someone you can plug in at 3B and not be a zero at the plate. If Wright's offense continues to dip, maybe they look into Martin Prado, assuming the Marlins fade away. More likely, they'll probably be in the market for this year's version of Juan Uribe/Kelly Johnson.

They really need a catcher, though. Plawecki's carrying offensive tool was his ability to make contact in the minors but that hasn't translated at all against big league pitchers, which makes him useless offensively. 

Edited May 19, 2016 by nmigliore

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

The double-whammy with Wright is the inability to do anything with runners on (including making productive outs, but that's a team-wide problem) and the constant Ks. 

Like others have pointed out, he's somehow been able to draw walks, but it seems unfathomable that he'll keep that up...and to justify getting as many ABs as he's getting, he pretty much has to. 

Agree that I think that Sandy will start looking for a solid backup for Wright, though I think Flores will get some ABs once he gets off the DL and get a shot to be with "from within" solution (similar to Plaw).  Even with this franchise giving endless chances to some guys, I do think Flores' days are going to be numbered...this is not a "hope some kids develop at the expense of some wins" season.  Otherwise yeah, go get a nice serviceable vet and call it a day. 

['7']

48 minutes ago, nmigliore said:

Was at the game last night, first trip to Citi this year. Felt more like a mid-April game night game than mid-May, ugh. I really can't ever catch a break with weather in April/May games. I was in the second deck in LF; off the bat I thought for a slight second that Cespedes ball would get to me.  

I know the strikeouts are driving people up a wall but I still think Wright can contribute offensively. I think the bigger issues are the defense, which is really bottoming out with his age and chronic back problem, and -- although this isn't Wright's fault -- the Mets have terrible backup plans for him. Neither player is hitting this year, but this would've been an ideal season to have a veteran like Juan Uribe or Kelly Johnson on the roster again - someone you can plug in at 3B and not be a zero at the plate. If Wright's offense continues to dip, maybe they look into Martin Prado, assuming the Marlins fade away. More likely, they'll probably be in the market for this year's version of Juan Uribe/Kelly Johnson.

They really need a catcher, though. Plawecki's carrying offensive tool was his ability to make contact in the minors but that hasn't translated at all against big league pitchers, which makes him useless offensively. 

Weather has been awful and it's a main factor as to why Mets attendance (while up about 1,500 per game over last year) isn't better than it should be. Everyone I know that has been to a game has come back telling me it feels like a Jets game at Shea circa Dec 1980. Freezing wind. Just nasty

This years Kelly Johnson may be...Kelly Johnson. Braves don't need him, we might as well bring him back for round 2

Plouffe from Minnesota would be the guy I want

[NJDevs4978]

32 minutes ago, '7' said:

Weather has been awful and it's a main factor as to why Mets attendance (while up about 1,500 per game over last year) isn't better than it should be. Everyone I know that has been to a game has come back telling me it feels like a Jets game at Shea circa Dec 1980. Freezing wind. Just nasty

This years Kelly Johnson may be...Kelly Johnson. Braves don't need him, we might as well bring him back for round 2

Plouffe from Minnesota would be the guy I want

That would be like Lou trading for Ponikarovsky in back to back seasons lol

And yeah the weather combined with midweek (mostly night games) series is depressing attendance some.  The only non Opening Day sellout so far was the dopey Thor gnome giveaway which supposedly people camped out overnight for to be one of the first 15,000 in the building  I was supposed to go to that game actually but had to sell it off at the last minute for a modest profit. At least I know I wasn't getting the gnome anyway.

['7']

This is apparently a true story and a disgraceful one at that. We get to a World Series and the brand is still disrespected.

All of these names have like, very strong sexual innuendos. Someone in the B-Mets office didn't pick up on that?

http://www.pressconnects.com/story/sports/2016/05/17/b-mets-announces-six-finalists-name-change/84488696/

The Binghamton Mets unveiled the six finalists for the team's new name prior to Tuesday night's game against the Altoona Curve at NYSEG Stadium.

In March, B-Mets owner John Hughes announced a plan to rename the team going into the 2017 season. The B-Mets accepted submissions from the start of the season through April 21. The winner of the “Name the Team” contest will receive season tickets for life from the franchise. All potential nicknames will keep "Binghamton" as the city name.

The six names selected as finalists are:

 

• Bullheads
• Gobblers
• Rocking Horses
• Rumble Ponies
• Stud Muffins
• Timber Jockeys 

Edited May 19, 2016 by '7'

[nmigliore]

Maybe it's because I'm an avid angler, but I like Bullheads. Binghamton Bullheads also rolls off the tongue easy (and I totally don't mean for that to be a sexual innuendo).

[NJDevs4978]

lol I was wondering why there was a thread about this on NYFS...should have clicked in it I suppose

[capo]

I rolled my eyes when I found out they were changing the name. I took my kids to their first game last year and they were so excited about the Mets and now this crap... it's dumb.  We have a 25 year history and championships to boot,  a recent one thanks to Steven Matz. I guess if it had to change I would also go with Bullheads for the same reason stated above.