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11 hours ago, Devil Dan 56 said:

Murray got them there. Changing horses mid stream is dangerous, especially when you're 2 wins from the finals. Fluery has proven to be a playoff flop more often than not. 

Don't be shocked Murray's back in tomorrow night. The Flower had a lot of rust on him.

I love the "back & forth" with Hitch & Deboer. "Hitch will tell you they won the the "adjustments" he made! Tell him Pete! Sharks will be back tonight.

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42 minutes ago, BlueSkirt said:

I thought it was over when Bishop when down, but the backup keeper (excluding his rebounds) has been outstanding.   

Both teams have shown the ability to come back from big deficits during the games, so Game 6 will be fun to watch !

 

Couldn't agree more.  I think that's been Vasilevsky's only knock thus far - the rebounds.  I don't think they've been terrible, but it's the one thing myself and a few others have noticed after watching him this series.  His positioning has been pretty sound and I think his reflexes even better.

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Murray had no chance on those 4 goals He let in last game.

Fleury was out of position the entire night and was lucky 5 or 6 did not go by him. I'd definitely go back to Murray for game 6.

The Killorn's goal was a ripper and perfect top corner, fleury was square to the shot there, its stoppable but it was a perfect top corner shot, hard to knock a goalie too much there, he had an inch to put it in and he did. The first Kucherov goal it's all Hagelin's fault. Look at the play he's leaving his side and goes on the other side to get him outside of the play while Kucherov (his guy) walked in all by himself. Fleury was taking the shooter there, he did was he was supposed to do and buddy got the puck on the other side wide open, Fleury had no chance, he had to take the shooter and the player had to get the pass. On the tying goal he went the rebound in the corner which is what goalies are told to do. Too bad Kucherov was coming with speed, picked it up and made a nice play but that play started with Crosby's turnover with his no look pass that got picked up by a tampa player. And the OT goal went off someone in front. That being said you could tell Fleury was a bit rusty but none of those goals were incredibly weak or anything.they are typical goals you see scored on any goalie in the league.

again by no stretch of imagination am i suggesting fleury was stellar but to blame the loss on him is a stretch imo, none of those goals were really weak

I feel like Murray is just always very well positioned, much like how Schneider plays. I think the Pens have a gem in him. We will see how this offseason plays out if teams knock on the door for Fleury.

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7 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

The Killorn's goal was a ripper and perfect top corner, fleury was square to the shot there, its stoppable but it was a perfect top corner shot, hard to knock a goalie too much there, he had an inch to put it in and he did. The first Kucherov goal it's all Hagelin's fault. Look at the play he's leaving his side and goes on the other side to get him outside of the play while Kucherov (his guy) walked in all by himself. Fleury was taking the shooter there, he did was he was supposed to do and buddy got the puck on the other side wide open, Fleury had no chance, he had to take the shooter and the player had to get the pass. On the tying goal he went the rebound in the corner which is what goalies are told to do. Too bad Kucherov was coming with speed, picked it up and made a nice play but that play started with Crosby's turnover with his no look pass that got picked up by a tampa player. And the OT goal went off someone in front. That being said you could tell Fleury was a bit rusty but none of those goals were incredibly weak or anything.they are typical goals you see scored on any goalie in the league.

again by no stretch of imagination am i suggesting fleury was stellar but to blame the loss on him is a stretch imo, none of those goals were really weak

This is all fine, but game 4 wasn't Murray's fault either, and he lost his spot because fleury made 7 saves. This far in, it should be Murray's to win or lose. If I'm Sullivan, I'm not sure I can swallow my pride at this point. And if he rides fleury and they win 6 more games, he's a genius. He'll probably live or die by this gamble.

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On 5/23/2016 at 1:47 PM, MadDog2020 said:

If I'm Sullivan, I'm going back to Murray and pretending last night didn't happen.

It's definitely the right move for the Pens. This is Murray's run. I understood the Fleury move to a point because they responded in the third period. But Fleury gave up short side from a bad angle to Killorn. And was slow reacting to Kucherov's wrap around that forced OT. He also showed a tendency to go down early leaving the top of the net exposed. Murray has been excellent. He gives them the best chance of extending the series. 

It's funny because I didn't feel the Bolts could win after Bishop went down. But Vasilevskiy has played well making some clutch stops. He's looked more like the guy from last year. The Bolts are winning based on experience and resilience. The Pens are better. But you can't account for Tampa's run last year. It helps along with Cooper. 

Pretty excited about the Sharks. I really want to see them win. One more and they finally reach a Stanley Cup Final. Joe Pavelski is money.

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15 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said:

Way to show up, Tampa.

What's scary is that they've been a little streaky the past few games.  Sometimes they bring it and can roll with and beat just about anyone, other times they're pretty flat and still put up a good effort because of how skilled they are, but overall they just aren't aggressive enough and don't want it as bad, so you end up with games like you saw last night.

I think they'll show up for tomorrow's game, but I think Pittsburgh will too.  What would be nice is if they get Stamkos back and give them a big energy boost.  It might mess with the team chemistry that they've developed without thus far, but I think it would still mess with the Penguins heads and give them another guy they have to account for. 

Believe it or not I think it's actually going to come down to the goalies and who is able to steal the game for their team.  I expect it to be probably a 3-2 score, possibly in OT.  I think both teams will play tight and the refs will probably keep their whistles in their pockets.

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The offside that prevented the first Tampa goal reminded me too much about the feeling in the 2001 Final Game 6 when Gomez couldn't push one in early...

I'm still hoping the Bolts can win, but not expecting it now.   Hoping for the Blues too, but they look like a lost cause now

 

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47 minutes ago, BlueSkirt said:

The offside that prevented the first Tampa goal reminded me too much about the feeling in the 2001 Final Game 6 when Gomez couldn't push one in early...

I'm still hoping the Bolts can win, but not expecting it now.   Hoping for the Blues too, but they look like a lost cause now

 

I totally thought the same thing. I was there in '01 and the air came out of that place when Gomer's goal was disallowed. Seemed like a replay yesterday. I hope Game 7 is different as well. 

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The offside that prevented the first Tampa goal reminded me too much about the feeling in the 2001 Final Game 6 when Gomez couldn't push one in early...

I'm still hoping the Bolts can win, but not expecting it now.   Hoping for the Blues too, but they look like a lost cause now

 

I totally thought the same thing. I was there in '01 and the air came out of that place when Gomer's goal was disallowed. Seemed like a replay yesterday. I hope Game 7 is different as well. 

Ugh... That was the worst game I've ever been to in my life. That's the series that will stick in my craw until the day I die, more than any other. I'll never understand how they couldn't shake off that goal being waved off.

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45 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

 

I totally thought the same thing. I was there in '01 and the air came out of that place when Gomer's goal was disallowed. Seemed like a replay yesterday. I hope Game 7 is different as well. 

 

 

Ugh... That was the worst game I've ever been to in my life. That's the series that will stick in my craw until the day I die, more than any other. I'll never understand how they couldn't shake off that goal being waved off.

Yes I think it is much worse than '94. We had them and lost it.....a chance at back to back too.

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3 minutes ago, John Wensink said:

Yes I think it is much worse than '94. We had them and lost it.....a chance at back to back too.

That's the game where as a lifelong fan of Martin Brodeur I remember thinking in that first period, Patrick Roy is the best goalie in the world.   First period, 5 rows from the ice and right behind Patrick Roy I watched that man simply refuse to allow a goal (can't remember the early shots on goal in game 6, but it was an absolute Devils onslaught) and weathered the storm until his team could finally grab a break.   They did...and Marty didn't do what Roy was able to.   Still the most disappointing Devils' game I've ever been to (and number 2 would have to be the Canes game where the Devils blew the lead with 1:20 left.    That game left me physically ill and I still cheer every time Staal gets hit.    Great.  I had to remember that... I need a drink.

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On May 24, 2016 at 9:14 PM, thecoffeecake said:

This is all fine, but game 4 wasn't Murray's fault either, and he lost his spot because fleury made 7 saves. This far in, it should be Murray's to win or lose. If I'm Sullivan, I'm not sure I can swallow my pride at this point. And if he rides fleury and they win 6 more games, he's a genius. He'll probably live or die by this gamble.

ah well of course but my point is that maybe there's stuff we don't know. Maybe Murray wasn't 100% who knows?

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