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8 hours ago, sundstrom said:

i wonder if shero can target tanner pearson as this year's palmieri type trade. LA will be big time up against the cap and pearson's going to be an RFA that needs a raise. They already are going to have to REALLY take care of tiffoli and look to be trying to sign lucic so pearson is one of those young guys that might have to deal before he gets too expensive.

would have been a lot simpler if Lou and Conter could have look at his stats back in 2012 and realize that he'd be a way better pick than fvcking useless Matteau. lol at least Pearson was a scorer playing top 6. Matteau was a 3rd liner in juniors. I still don't understand that pick

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6 hours ago, SMantzas said:

Gotta hope they do dumb things like keep Lucic around. I wouldnt mind seeing Shero get super aggressive and sign someone to an offer sheet, but of course the player has to be right.

Gaudreau sounds right to me, bring back the kid home

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8 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

would have been a lot simpler if Lou and Conter could have look at his stats back in 2012 and realize that he'd be a way better pick than fvcking useless Matteau. lol at least Pearson was a scorer playing top 6. Matteau was a 3rd liner in juniors. I still don't understand that pick

It's dirty water under a creaky bridge, but where was Matteau projected to go in that draft?  Could've been that Lou and Conte thought that Matteau had the best chance to reach his potential (even if his upside wasn't as high as some others), but as we know, the drafts were not kind to Lou and Conte over the last several years.  And we know what that led to...

At least Shero managed to get a guy back for him who looks like he'll be an NHLer for a while.  Just hope people are reasonable in what they expect from Smith-Pelly. 

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31 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

It's dirty water under a creaky bridge, but where was Matteau projected to go in that draft?  Could've been that Lou and Conte thought that Matteau had the best chance to reach his potential (even if his upside wasn't as high as some others), but as we know, the drafts were not kind to Lou and Conte over the last several years.  And we know what that led to...

At least Shero managed to get a guy back for him who looks like he'll be an NHLer for a while.  Just hope people are reasonable in what they expect from Smith-Pelly. 

don't get me wrong - conte hasn't drafted great the last couple of years. but there are guys in the pipeline that were still their picks so maybe they can raise their final years if some of these guys pan out.

 

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

It's dirty water under a creaky bridge, but where was Matteau projected to go in that draft?  Could've been that Lou and Conte thought that Matteau had the best chance to reach his potential (even if his upside wasn't as high as some others), but as we know, the drafts were not kind to Lou and Conte over the last several years.  And we know what that led to...

At least Shero managed to get a guy back for him who looks like he'll be an NHLer for a while.  Just hope people are reasonable in what they expect from Smith-Pelly. 

Matteau was picked right around where he was projected by most people.  Drafting a bust at the second to last pick in the first round of what is proving to be a below average draft is not terrible, except for the fact that keeping that pick might have cost the Devils from being able to draft someone like Dylan Larkin two years later. 

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The bigger question than picking Matteau was why did Lou insist on keeping that pick.  IIRC, Lou went into that draft wanting to draft a goalie (which at the time made a lot of sense), but that was a pretty big gamble unless Lou managed to trade up a couple more spots.  He basically took what was probably the BPA in Matteau at the time who didn't pan out.  However, knowing that you have to give up a pick and ending up with pick 29 out of 30, he should have just forfeited that pick and that would have enabled us to get a top 15 pick in 2014.

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We got Smith-Pelley out of it so it had a happy ending. Even if he never scores a goal for NJ again he did more than Matteau did as a Devil. I was very upset that Lou kept the pick instead of forfeiting it but we wound up with a pretty good player out of it.

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18 hours ago, SMantzas said:

Gotta hope they do dumb things like keep Lucic around. I wouldnt mind seeing Shero get super aggressive and sign someone to an offer sheet, but of course the player has to be right.

I would love it if we offer sheeted J.T. Miller from the Rangers. (21G 22A) 43 points this year. Give him $3-4 million, and you either a) just screwed the Rangers out of a very good player they needed, or b) just threw their cap situation in a tizzy if they match it.

This is obviously operating from within the rules, but does that cast Shero off in a negative light around the league with other GMs he's trying to wheel and deal with? Is that negative effect real or overstated?

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3 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

It's dirty water under a creaky bridge, but where was Matteau projected to go in that draft?  Could've been that Lou and Conte thought that Matteau had the best chance to reach his potential (even if his upside wasn't as high as some others), but as we know, the drafts were not kind to Lou and Conte over the last several years.  And we know what that led to...

At least Shero managed to get a guy back for him who looks like he'll be an NHLer for a while.  Just hope people are reasonable in what they expect from Smith-Pelly. 

I think that little cold streak he had toward the end of the season was good for us and good for Shero. If he kept firing in goals, some real questions would need to be asked about how to approach his RFA; do we sign him long-term, etc.? That little dip at the end of the season was perfect, so we're not under any illusions of this guy being "the answer" to all our problems.

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Kind of off topic but should we be expecting a contract extension for Palmieri soon? IMO that should be pretty high on the list of things Shero has to do and not much else is going on right now. I mean I know we have all summer here but Lou already locked up Kadri and Reilly.

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1 hour ago, DJ Eco said:

I would love it if we offer sheeted J.T. Miller from the Rangers. (21G 22A) 43 points this year. Give him $3-4 million, and you either a) just screwed the Rangers out of a very good player they needed, or b) just threw their cap situation in a tizzy if they match it.

This is obviously operating from within the rules, but does that cast Shero off in a negative light around the league with other GMs he's trying to wheel and deal with? Is that negative effect real or overstated?

There's actually a big difference within that $3-4 million range, as far as compensation goes...if the yearly value of the deal is $1,826,328 to $3,652,659, the Devils would owe the Rangers a second-rounder...if it's $3,652,659 to $5,478,986, then it's both a first and third-round pick.  Not that this will ever happen, but of course even if a 1st and 3rd made sense from the Rangers' standpoint (seems like a lot of coin for Miller at this point though), they probably match and deal other bodies. 

Anyway, only 10 offer sheets have been signed since 2006, and of those, only one (Dustin Penner, from Anaheim to Edmonton, at a cost of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round) wasn't matched by the player's original team.  I think they're potentially a lot of work for no return. 

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1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

There's actually a big difference within that $3-4 million range, as far as compensation goes...if the yearly value of the deal is $1,826,328 to $3,652,659, the Devils would owe the Rangers a second-rounder...if it's $3,652,659 to $5,478,986, then it's both a first and third-round pick.  Not that this will ever happen, but of course even if a 1st and 3rd made sense from the Rangers' standpoint (seems like a lot of coin for Miller at this point though), they probably match and deal other bodies. 

Anyway, only 10 offer sheets have been signed since 2006, and of those, only one (Dustin Penner, from Anaheim to Edmonton, at a cost of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round) wasn't matched by the player's original team.  I think they're potentially a lot of work for no return. 

Good call, forgot about that!

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5 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

There's actually a big difference within that $3-4 million range, as far as compensation goes...if the yearly value of the deal is $1,826,328 to $3,652,659, the Devils would owe the Rangers a second-rounder...if it's $3,652,659 to $5,478,986, then it's both a first and third-round pick.  Not that this will ever happen, but of course even if a 1st and 3rd made sense from the Rangers' standpoint (seems like a lot of coin for Miller at this point though), they probably match and deal other bodies. 

Anyway, only 10 offer sheets have been signed since 2006, and of those, only one (Dustin Penner, from Anaheim to Edmonton, at a cost of a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round) wasn't matched by the player's original team.  I think they're potentially a lot of work for no return. 

This might be a negative transfer from video games, but aren't compensation brackets updated yearly?

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On April 29, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

It's dirty water under a creaky bridge, but where was Matteau projected to go in that draft?  Could've been that Lou and Conte thought that Matteau had the best chance to reach his potential (even if his upside wasn't as high as some others), but as we know, the drafts were not kind to Lou and Conte over the last several years.  And we know what that led to...

At least Shero managed to get a guy back for him who looks like he'll be an NHLer for a while.  Just hope people are reasonable in what they expect from Smith-Pelly. 

i mean if it wasnt that they've been so fvcking bad at drafting forwards for the last 15 years i'd give them the benefit of the doubt but...

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On April 29, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Jerzey said:

We got Smith-Pelley out of it so it had a happy ending. Even if he never scores a goal for NJ again he did more than Matteau did as a Devil. I was very upset that Lou kept the pick instead of forfeiting it but we wound up with a pretty good player out of it.

The more I hear about Quenneville (our consolation pick that year) the less I care about missing the 'chance' to draft Larkin.

EDIT: Meant to quote the post before yours.

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i guess Vadim Shipachev is planning on signing in the NHL. Should we offer him something?

I don't know who the fvck he is, but if he's good at hockey and can score goals... Then yes, I would hope we would be offering him something.

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33 minutes ago, Gunslinger27 said:

I mentioned this back in April for Gaudreau, I think Calgary may have Cap issues. 

No brainer if he's available. 

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1 hour ago, sokar said:

The way LIndy Ruff called out Nichushkin during the press conference last night I would not be shocked if Nichushkin is traded during the off season

Nichushkin had all the scouting scores & tangibles but has been a disappointment. Today's Bettman Hockey League requires a lot of east-west puck movement, but watching Nichushkin, he carries the put too much and too long in the Ozone, which produced sawdust.  If Hines & co. think he can be retrain to fit in the Devs system, I'm all for this very talented and the youngest starter(21), that becomes an RFA July. Stars also have more goalie problems with a draw of $10 million sucking sound against the cap for two 30 something underachievers in the twilight of their careers; Niemi and Lehtonen.   Dallas has to move players and find a goalie

 

I say, make the move for Nichushkin

 

 

 

 

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A few years ago, I remember Jaromir Jagr said something like, "He's going to be one of the best players in the league." I don't remember if he was talking about Nichuskin or was it Tarasenko? I feel like it was Nichuskin.

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41 minutes ago, DJ Eco said:

A few years ago, I remember Jaromir Jagr said something like, "He's going to be one of the best players in the league." I don't remember if he was talking about Nichuskin or was it Tarasenko? I feel like it was Nichuskin.

I remember that too, and I'm 99% sure it was Nichushkin

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