Devils looking to add offense in the offseason

[NJDfan1711]

9 minutes ago, Jerzey said:

Going after any trade for someone like Nuke is going to cost us. We have to be prepared to lose a good asset like our 1st, Severson or something. I'm kind of content just to wait it out and hang onto what we have. If we can steal someone then sure but I don't think it's a very realistic expectation.

Pretty much agree with this.  While there are a lot of would be "nice to have" guys out there, for one I don't think we really have what people would want for us to give up, and two I am not sure it would be worth it.

[Gunslinger27]

13 hours ago, redruM said:

I'd be shocked if Calgary let him go, he is a rock star out there...

red, so would I !  lol,

Edited May 14, 2016 by Gunslinger27

[Devils Pride 26]

Nichushkin and Niemi for Schneider. Reverse 2013 draft

[Jerzey]

If the expansion draft is coming up in the next couple of seasons we're going to have to expose both Wedgewood and Kinkaid. 

 

Things change obviously but as of now I don't think we'll get much of a return for Kinky but Wedge might net us a decent return. I don't think either would be drafted by an expansion team but you never know. I say play it safe and trade Wedge. 

 

This could be our "Palmieri" move this summer. 

[Zubie#8]

Theres no value for Kinkaid and Wedgewood unfortunately. You can find goalies like them all over the place and can easily draft one.

Maybe if we can package them with something else then that would work!

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[NJDfan1711]

15 minutes ago, Zubie#8 said:

 

 

Theres no value for Kinkaid and Wedgewood unfortunately. You can find goalies like them all over the place and can easily draft one.

Maybe if we can package them with something else then that would work!

 

 

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Gotta agree with this.  I like Wedge's potential and what he showed at the end of the season, but both him and Kinkaid, at present, are a dime a dozen, and although Wedge might turn out to be better than just a backup one day, you can't ask someone to pay today what it might be worth in the future. 

[vadvlfan]

On May 20, 2016 at 3:31 PM, NJDfan1711 said:

Gotta agree with this.  I like Wedge's potential and what he showed at the end of the season, but both him and Kinkaid, at present, are a dime a dozen, and although Wedge might turn out to be better than just a backup one day, you can't ask someone to pay today what it might be worth in the future. 

Ok then, take Blackwood. Would he fetch much on the trade market?  He's leaving as best goalie in OHL.  Not suggesting Devils would part with him. But, I'll bet there's a few teams that would be very interested in him that know they have a lack of depth in goal. He hasn't played an NHL game yet.  Not sure I agree on Wedge/Blockade.  They building their resume's. Many teams "settle on" Ray Emory's of the world.  Is Eddie Lack THAT good?  

I hope neither are going anywhere until Exp. draft.

[Daniel]

44 minutes ago, vadvlfan said:

Ok then, take Blackwood. Would he fetch much on the trade market?  He's leaving as best goalie in OHL.  Not suggesting Devils would part with him. But, I'll bet there's a few teams that would be very interested in him that know they have a lack of depth in goal. He hasn't played an NHL game yet.  Not sure I agree on Wedge/Blockade.  They building their resume's. Many teams "settle on" Ray Emory's of the world.  Is Eddie Lack THAT good?  

I hope neither are going anywhere until Exp. draft.

While I would never underestimate the tendency of an NHL GM, even an otherwise successful one, to do something puzzling, Blackwood, at most, is a piece of larger deal or maybe someone that helps you move up a few spots in the first round (and even that is doubtful).  He is at least two years away from being even a backup in the NHL.  In fact, I can't remember the last time a CHL goalie has brought back anything significant in a trade, if one has even been traded.  I know there was talk of the Bruins trading Malcolm Subban after he had a good year in junior, but that never materialized.  

[Onddeck]

found where our offense is gonna come from 

 

 

Edited May 22, 2016 by Onddeck

[Devilsfan118]

On 5/13/2016 at 0:51 PM, DevsMan84 said:

Why not?  I mean we can trade him for a 2nd rounder, Merrill, Severson, and Josefson. 

[my best impression of a Devils FB trade proposal]

Not too far off from some of the proposals I've read on hfboards too.

[Devilsfan118]

7 hours ago, vadvlfan said:

Ok then, take Blackwood. Would he fetch much on the trade market?  He's leaving as best goalie in OHL.  Not suggesting Devils would part with him. But, I'll bet there's a few teams that would be very interested in him that know they have a lack of depth in goal. He hasn't played an NHL game yet.  Not sure I agree on Wedge/Blockade.  They building their resume's. Many teams "settle on" Ray Emory's of the world.  Is Eddie Lack THAT good?  

There's a lot of hype surrounding Blackwood, I'd probably hold onto him if possible.  Obviously still a prospect and nothing more but he seems like he could be the real deal.

[Marshall]

3 hours ago, Onddeck said:

found where our offense is gonna come from 

 

 

Quenneville for Leafs 1st overall.

[munichdevil]

5 hours ago, Onddeck said:

found where our offense is gonna come from 

Wow, what a move.

[vadvlfan]

I think he'll be an Henrique 2.0, which is fine by me.  decent hands & skating ability.

[Daniel]

So according to one of the TSN guys and picked up by Cordell, Michael Granlund might be on the trade block.  Doesn't make a ton of sense to me why Minnesota would want to deal him (Minnesota doesn't have cap issues and shouldn't have any NMCs they desperately want to get rid of) but he would look great in a Devils uniform.  I doubt that the Palmieri package would get it done, but NHL GMs can do funny things sometimes. 

[Daniel]

Here's a tweet from a Vice News freelancer Jimmy Murphy.  

 

Per an NHL source, add the #Devils to a growing list of teams that are targeting F Loui Eriksson should he reach free agency. #Bruins #NHL

 

[MadDog2020]

Here's a tweet from a Vice News freelancer Jimmy Murphy.  

 

Per an NHL source, add the #Devils to a growing list of teams that are targeting F Loui Eriksson should he reach free agency. #Bruins #NHL

 

Interesting....

[vadvlfan]

2 hours ago, Daniel said:

Here's a tweet from a Vice News freelancer Jimmy Murphy.  

 

Per an NHL source, add the #Devils to a growing list of teams that are targeting F Loui Eriksson should he reach free agency. #Bruins #NHL

 

He had A decent year last year. Don't look to Eriksson for scoring. Hopefully Shero doesn't knock himself out to get him.

[Daniel]

1 hour ago, vadvlfan said:

He had A decent year last year. Don't look to Eriksson for scoring. Hopefully Shero doesn't knock himself out to get him.

He scored 30 goals and had 63 points on a team where he wasn't the main offensive threat, which to me is a really good year.  He's the same age as Parise, who if you could get on a five year deal at a $6 million cap hit right now, you'd probably do it.   

And while we're talking about things, is the idea of trading next year's number 1 pick, not lottery protected completely crazy, if the return involves the number 4 pick from Edmonton, or maybe the number 3 pick from Columbus if we take Hartnell back and give a little more.  My sense is that next year's draft is going to be fairly weak in that the guy who is supposed to go number 1 overall -- Nolan Patrik-- would probably be taken fifth this year.  Of course if I know that, probably means every NHL GM knows that too.  

[Triumph]

Nolan Patrick wouldn't be taken 5th this year.  I'd put him over everyone but Matthews and Laine, and given that he's a full year younger than Matthews it would be close between the two of them.  Patrick probably won't score 102 points next year - 4 of his top teammates could be gone - but 112 points in a Y17 season is really, really good.

Trading next year's 1st would be a complete disaster.

Edited June 6, 2016 by Triumph

[sundstrom]

26 minutes ago, Triumph said:

Nolan Patrick wouldn't be taken 5th this year.  I'd put him over everyone but Matthews and Laine, and given that he's a full year younger than Matthews it would be close between the two of them.  Patrick probably won't score 102 points next year - 4 of his top teammates could be gone - but 112 points in a Y17 season is really, really good.

Trading next year's 1st would be a complete disaster.

would you trade this year's first and next year's first for #3 this year?

[Daniel]

5 minutes ago, Triumph said:

Nolan Patrick wouldn't be taken 5th this year.  I'd put him over everyone but Matthews and Laine, and given that he's a full year younger than Matthews it would be close between the two of them.  Patrick probably won't score 112 points next year - 4 of his top teammates could be gone - but 112 points in a Y17 season is really, really good.

Trading next year's 1st would be a complete disaster.

By saying he would be the fifth overall this year, I'm going on what Corey Pronman said.  Patrick also missed the deadline for this draft by a few days, so he'll be one of the oldest players in next year's draft.  It's also unlikely that we'd have the number 1 pick overall. 

Based on that, my sense is that next year's draft is going to be like 2011.  Some good players in the first round, but most of them are guys I would pass up if the payoff was really, really good.  If the thinking in the organization is that someone like Puljujarvi is a future super star, I would probably do it. 

[Triumph]

8 minutes ago, Daniel said:

By saying he would be the fifth overall this year, I'm going on what Corey Pronman said.  Patrick also missed the deadline for this draft by a few days, so he'll be one of the oldest players in next year's draft.  It's also unlikely that we'd have the number 1 pick overall. 

Based on that, my sense is that next year's draft is going to be like 2011.  Some good players in the first round, but most of them are guys I would pass up if the payoff was really, really good.  If the thinking in the organization is that someone like Puljujarvi is a future super star, I would probably do it. 

I'm aware of that, but Matthews is in the same position this year and he probably goes 6th last year.  It's a silly comparison to make - there's a year's worth of data we don't have yet.

I wouldn't trade this year's 1st and next year's 1st for 3rd overall and neither would Columbus.

[Daniel]

2 minutes ago, Triumph said:

I'm aware of that, but Matthews is in the same position this year and he probably goes 6th last year.  It's a silly comparison to make - there's a year's worth of data we don't have yet.

I wouldn't trade this year's 1st and next year's 1st for 3rd overall and neither would Columbus.

With Columbus, I would take back someone like Hartnell and might give a little more.  

From everything you hear, the expansion rules are going to be very brutal for a team like Columbus, who also can't afford to buy out players with NMCs (and it isn't even clear whether that would work).  I would leave no stone unturned in trying to take advantage of that situation.

[Daniel]

It's behind the paywall, but in Custance's latest column, there are a few quotes from Shero, who definitely appears to be well aware of the possiblities of taking on a bad contract -- Datsyuk, Bickell -- in order to get a good young player.  Teravanin and Bickell for a second or third round pick would be very, very nice.  Bickel's contract is over after next year and he doesn't have an NMC, so it should not be a big problem to take him on.  He could also probably be a decent contributor for one year.