Daniel Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) Quote Darren Dreger Verified account @DarrenDreger CBJ continues to listen to interest in #3 pick, however, sources say CBJ would like to attach a contract, (Hartnell) for cap space...1/2 Quote Darren Dreger Verified account @DarrenDreger ...CBJ still has to extend Seth Jones which will be costly. Also approaching offer sheet time and Jones could be prime target. It's all playing out pretty much exactly as I've suggested. We have the cap space and don't need to worry about losing great players at the expansion draft even with another NMC. If a lot of stuff goes down with teams trying to dump bad contracts and all we have to show for it is a 2nd round pick in 2018, I'm going to be pretty pissed at Shero. With that said, my offer to Columbus: No 11 overall, Second round pick this year, second round pick next year for number 3 overall and Hartnell. Either that, or its a lottery protected first round pick next year instead of the two seconds. There's blood in the water, Shero needs to pounce. Edited June 20, 2016 by Daniel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMazz Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 On Wednesday, April 13, 2016 at 0:41 PM, MantaRay said: We don't need Stamkos, especially with his asking price and health concerns. Aren't you the same poster that was also so adamant about how we didn't need Kovalchuk? I mean, with that track record... (Just joshin' you of course) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TheMazz said: Aren't you the same poster that was also so adamant about how we didn't need Kovalchuk? I mean, with that track record... (Just joshin' you of course) yeah that's always funny here lol some posters keep going about how we don't need this guy and this guy for wtv reasons that are mostly down the line in 6-7 years.... but here we are every year at the bottom of the league in scoring lol i mean i get it but some cases are extreme i mean it's really like seeing a starving and dying african kid saying he doesn't want cake cause there's sugar in it and he doesn't want to risk eating sugar cause he doesn't want to be diabetic later. You won't be alive later ! i'm just poking around though, don't take this 100% serious lol Edited June 20, 2016 by SterioDesign 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Well Vesey's rights have been given to Buffalo for 3 rd round pick to Nashville. Vesey/Eichel have same agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Rangers looking to sell off Stepan? I like him (although Rangers would never trade w/ us) but are they regretting 6.5 mil for next 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/15/2016 at 9:48 PM, Devils Pride 26 said: Not public yet. Friend of a friend. But they are definitely a 21st century reporter. Regarding Twitter + tech. In a lot of ways Chere was a bit of a Luddite. Total 180 Is whoever it is going to be in place by the draft/FA or are we waiting till September? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 9 hours ago, vadvlfan said: Rangers looking to sell off Stepan? I like him (although Rangers would never trade w/ us) but are they regretting 6.5 mil for next 5 years? Which is insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 15 hours ago, SterioDesign said: yeah that's always funny here lol some posters keep going about how we don't need this guy and this guy for wtv reasons that are mostly down the line in 6-7 years.... but here we are every year at the bottom of the league in scoring lol i mean i get it but some cases are extreme i mean it's really like seeing a starving and dying african kid saying he doesn't want cake cause there's sugar in it and he doesn't want to risk eating sugar cause he doesn't want to be diabetic later. You won't be alive later ! i'm just poking around though, don't take this 100% serious lol That's actually a really good analogy lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I love SD's analogies. Some are great and some are terrible. I always look forward to reading them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) This is interesting coming from one of Edmonton's beat writers: Quote Ryan Rishaug Verified account @TSNRyanRishaug Can't help but think NJD and Oilers could be a fit. Severson a RS D with big upside, Devils desperate for offence, plenty of cap space. From what I can tell, he doesn't post a ton of speculation, so maybe's there's some smoke here. I want no part of Eberle, especially if it means Severson is going the other way. One idea would be 11 overall and Severson for Hall and Edmonton's second. Edmonton gets someone who they would have to calculate will be a first pairing defensemen if they're trading for him in the first place, they get Hall's replacement at number 4 and can draft someone else good at 11. From our standpoint, if Taylor Hall were sitting somewhere ahead of us at the draft, you would trade Severson and 11 overall to move up to get him. The ultimate bit of awesomeness would be if then Shero trades a second rounder and someone expendable like Helgeson for the Datsyuk contract and 16 overall. I know Holland says it's untouchable, but there are maybe 3 suitors for the thing. Not to mention that it looks like Buffalo will be throwing its hat into the Stamkos sweepstakes, so they need all the cap space they can get. Edited June 21, 2016 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 15 hours ago, NJDevs4978 said: Is whoever it is going to be in place by the draft/FA or are we waiting till September? Closer to September from my understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 There's no way that 11+Severson gets you Hall. And again this is the real problem with any Severson trade is that most teams are not going to pay for his potential, even though it's sky-high, simply because he was a 2nd round pick. I'd consider iterations of RNH deals - RNH + Fayne + Korpikoski for Severson+Helgeson sort of things - but I doubt Edmonton is willing to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Devils Pride 26 said: Closer to September from my understanding. Chris Ryan already announced he was the Ledger's new beat guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 55 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said: Chris Ryan already announced he was the Ledger's new beat guy Turned down vacation time to cover the draft. Shows how much I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Why not Eberle. Daniel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 26 minutes ago, CarpathianForest said: Why not Eberle. Daniel? He's one of those guys that if he isn't scoring goals he isn't doing much else. I see him as a glorified P.A. Paranteau. Not saying he's worthless, but a young defenseman with a ton of upside is way too much to give up for someone like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldply123 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Parenteau is more of a passing forward who can get some goals if he gets enough shots. Eberle is a shooter and not much else. He doesn't play the defensive side well at all at forward. He's also not great along the boards or when the puck isn't on his stick. People got excited because he was very productive early but the rest of his game hasn't caught up or developed or he hasn't committed himself to it. I think we could get a better player or prospect for Severson than Eberle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Eberle is a faster Michael Ryder (in his prime). He has a hell of a snap shot, wouldn't mind getting him because I think he could look good on Zachas wing but not for Severson. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 I'd love to have Eberle just for nostalgia sake lol his goal against Russia with 4 seconds left at the world junior is still one of my fav hockey moment ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Not a fan of moving him but this is the first time I've actually seen Severson's name listed as being available. http://www.tsn.ca/shattenkirk-vaults-to-top-of-tsn-trade-bait-list-1.512905 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 Not a fan of moving him but this is the first time I've actually seen Severson's name listed as being available. http://www.tsn.ca/shattenkirk-vaults-to-top-of-tsn-trade-bait-list-1.512905 The smoke around Severson has been rising the last few days... And you know what they say about smoke... All I'll say is if we move him, the return better be Palmieri-like, or I'll riot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: The smoke around Severson has been rising the last few days... And you know what they say about smoke... All I'll say is if we move him, the return better be Palmieri-like, or I'll riot. On HF boards (yes I know) one of the posters who I guess evaluates prospects, said he was at the draft last year and the talk among journalists was that Shero was trying to trade for Edmonton's pick that the Isles ultimately got to draft Barzal and that the name that "came up" was Severson. Isn't clear whether that's who the Oilers wanted and Shero said no, or if it was the other way around. If there's any truth to the story, it would make the recent Edmonton/Severson rumors/speculation much more plausible, and my guess is that Shero has his eyes on one of the bigger names like RNH, Hall or Draisatl. If Shero really was looking for Eberle and Severson was going the other way, I think Edmonton would have jumped at it. Whatever the case, I pray that if Shero/Hynes think that Severson has a "bad attitude" that there's someone else in the room that yells "Tyler Seguin trade" repeatedly until they get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerzey Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 If it's a deal with Edmonton, I hope it's around Drai or Hall. I'd be willing to add for one of them but I don't think it would be worth adding onto to Severson for RNH. Not enough of an improvement over what we have down the middle already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 26 minutes ago, Daniel said: On HF boards (yes I know) one of the posters who I guess evaluates prospects, said he was at the draft last year and the talk among journalists was that Shero was trying to trade for Edmonton's pick that the Isles ultimately got to draft Barzal and that the name that "came up" was Severson. Isn't clear whether that's who the Oilers wanted and Shero said no, or if it was the other way around. If there's any truth to the story, it would make the recent Edmonton/Severson rumors/speculation much more plausible, and my guess is that Shero has his eyes on one of the bigger names like RNH, Hall or Draisatl. If Shero really was looking for Eberle and Severson was going the other way, I think Edmonton would have jumped at it. Whatever the case, I pray that if Shero/Hynes think that Severson has a "bad attitude" that there's someone else in the room that yells "Tyler Seguin trade" repeatedly until they get the point. If Shero can find a way to make a Severson for RNH deal work using an extra piece or two like our 2nd, Quenneville, Boucher etc, then I think that would be a good move. If the 11OA has to be added, I hope we move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghdi Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Jerzey said: If it's a deal with Edmonton, I hope it's around Drai or Hall. I'd be willing to add for one of them but I don't think it would be worth adding onto to Severson for RNH. Not enough of an improvement over what we have down the middle already. You'd have to add to get either of them. Kiss the #11+ goodbye to get Draisaitl or Hall w/ Severson as a part of the package. Potentially a package no one whose of a fan of this team should encourage be done at this point if its Hall. Unrealistic either of them get moved in the first place. If we're dealing with Edmonton, expect it to be Yakupov or RNH. I really dislike the idea of offering up Quenneville as a +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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