Marshall Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zubie#8 said: Pretty sure they have 14,000 people on a waiting list for season tickets. They should be fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Believe that was just a "we're interested"-list without any large commitments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrthemike Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 Here's an article from Mr Nate Silver from fivethirtyeight on why Vegas is a terrible location for an NHL team: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/las-vegas-is-a-terrible-place-for-an-nhl-team/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 16, 2016 Author Share Posted June 16, 2016 Pretty sure they have 14,000 people on a waiting list for season tickets. They should be fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Believe that was just a "we're interested"-list without any large commitments. AFAIK, those people had to put down a deposit... So they are committed to buying tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 55 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: AFAIK, those people had to put down a deposit... So they are committed to buying tickets. Indeed they did. I don't know what the amount was, but it was sizable and pretty much right in line with what other organizations who already have teams charge for season tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 11 hours ago, NJDfan1711 said: Indeed they did. I don't know what the amount was, but it was sizable and pretty much right in line with what other organizations who already have teams charge for season tickets. The deposit was 150-900 bucks depending on the usual factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) On June 16, 2016 at 9:45 AM, jim777 said: I heard they were already pretty easy to score on! And the five-hole on that goalie... Edited June 18, 2016 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 On June 16, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Zubie#8 said: Pretty sure they have 14,000 people on a waiting list for season tickets. They should be fine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I betting that it's not 14,000 "people". Knowing Vegas, a ton of those were probably purchased by the casinos or other entities to give out as comps. Not that it matters, 14,000 sold is still 14,000 sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 On 6/16/2016 at 2:12 PM, mrthemike said: Here's an article from Mr Nate Silver from fivethirtyeight on why Vegas is a terrible location for an NHL team: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/las-vegas-is-a-terrible-place-for-an-nhl-team/ I'm not expecting Vegas to be a huge success, but fivethirtyeight has been incredibly wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 I'm told Thunder Bay-Sudbury would be the best place to put a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank. They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency. At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 1 hour ago, vadvlfan said: Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank. They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency. At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. Yeah and the low canadian dollar fvcking sucks at the moment. I'm buying something on ebay from the US for $500 and it comes to like $750 canadian and it's frustrating... so i can't imagine paying millions for stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank. They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency. At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. Yeah and the low canadian dollar fvcking sucks at the moment. I'm buying something on ebay from the US for $500 and it comes to like $750 canadian and it's frustrating... so i can't imagine paying millions for stuff. Damn, I didn't realize it was that bad... It wasn't long ago that the CAD was on par with the USD. If the CAD was in this type of shape five years ago, we probably don't have a team in Winnipeg right now. Atlanta would've gone to another US market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 Yeah I'm going to a tournament in Montreal next month that's supposed to cost $550....my credit card was charged for like $470 instead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/19/2016 at 8:38 AM, vadvlfan said: Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank. They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency. At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. Where does the $750 million figure come from? Last I checked (a couple days ago), $1CA was worth about $.778 US, a 22.2% difference. That would put the expansion fee (aside from whatever taxes and other fees are levied) at a little over $611,000,000 CA. A major difference, sure, but far from the $750,000,000 CA suggested here. That would make the exchange rate $1CA to $.666 US. I've made this argument before. The cost of doing business in Canada right now is pricey, but these are the same issues all other 7 cities are dealing with. Quebec will be a bigger revenue earner than Winnipeg being in a bigger market and a much larger stadium. Winnipeg makes $50 million on ticket sales alone. If Quebec averages the same ticket price as the Jets do, they're making closer to $60 million. They'll probably make a bunch more money on their media deal, too. The absolute bottom line is that Quebec will be a profitable enterprise. The NHL can't shut down on Canada every time their currency fluctuates, because that's what happens in Canada. It's a rentier economy. They have to pay their players in $US, so what. It's only a %22 percent difference. All of their other operating costs are in $CA. If they wait 3-5 years on Quebec, they lose 3-5 years of a team that will probably have an immediate operating profit between $11-13 million US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 That $$ figure came from Bill Waters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 Bettman is about to make it official. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 Bill Foley reminds me of Glenn Sather.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 so here's the official rules for the expansion draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted June 22, 2016 Share Posted June 22, 2016 (edited) can't speculate on devils until they actually fill out a roster. we know for sure: schneider greene larsson palmieri henrique you'd assume severson and blandisi would get protected. a guy like merrill or moore will be exposed to take care of the D requirement. but what it also means is shero's gonna have to give out at least 1 (and likely 2) 2-year deals to filler so that he can expose that player(s). and its gotta be someone who plays. sure that could be josefson if you want to give him 2 years (which i'd be fine with). DSP is going to get multiple years - i suppose he can be exposed. or, like many have postulated, he'll expose zajac (which you can do b/c NTC's can be drafted) and hope that his big contract scares vegas away. but as i've argued a lot, zajac's contract, as the devils are constituted and likely will be for the next 3 years, is not an issue. and good teams need a player like travis zajac. they just don't need want him as their 1C. Edited June 22, 2016 by sundstrom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 I mean, it really doesn't matter - they just aren't going to have to expose a player of consequence unless they want to. Exposing Zajac is fine - that deal is already not good, it's going to get ugly very soon. In addition, basically every other team will have to expose someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 In theory, I agree exposing Zajac is fairly low risk. But, who are we replacing him with if he goes? This team already needs offensive players, not sure also losing our best defensive forward is a good idea. Josefson is a far better slternative if the choice were between the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Does Cammalleri have a NMC? If not, I'd expose him. Sucks to lose out on probably our purest scorer, but that contract will kinda suck in a year or two. Especially if he only manages 40ish games each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Does Cammalleri have a NMC? If not, I'd expose him. Sucks to lose out on probably our purest scorer, but that contract will kinda suck in a year or two. Especially if he only manages 40ish games each year. I would protect him because say later in the contract he has a monster year and is healthy at the trade deadline he could be a hot commodity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 25 minutes ago, Zubie#8 said: I would protect him because say later in the contract he has a monster year and is healthy at the trade deadline he could be a hot commodity. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Isn't he like 34 or soon to be 35? I just don't see him becoming a sought after player as the years go by and his health continues to be a question mark. If he gets snatched up it would suck, but that just gives more incentive and reason to put further emphasis and thought on our younger guys -- developing what we have now, and continuing to try to acquire more talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 On 06/23/2016 at 0:00 AM, Triumph said: I mean, it really doesn't matter - they just aren't going to have to expose a player of consequence unless they want to. Exposing Zajac is fine - that deal is already not good, it's going to get ugly very soon. In addition, basically every other team will have to expose someone better. The exact opposite is going to happen. I've said this before, but with salary inflation, Zajac's deal is already not looking so bad. Another few years it'll look significantly smaller with even greater salary inflation and an increasing cap. Besides, the guy had over 40 points and led the team in assists this season. Forget the non- superficial skills he has, he was a serviceable offensive piece. And for a guy that's supposed to need talent around him to succeed, he had a decent year on a pretty untalented team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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