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Pretty sure they have 14,000 people on a waiting list for season tickets. They should be fine.

 

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Believe that was just a "we're interested"-list without any large commitments.

AFAIK, those people had to put down a deposit... So they are committed to buying tickets.

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55 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

AFAIK, those people had to put down a deposit... So they are committed to buying tickets.

Indeed they did.  I don't know what the amount was, but it was sizable and pretty much right in line with what other organizations who already have teams charge for season tickets.

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11 hours ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Indeed they did.  I don't know what the amount was, but it was sizable and pretty much right in line with what other organizations who already have teams charge for season tickets.

The deposit was 150-900 bucks depending on the usual factors. 

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On June 16, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Zubie#8 said:

 

Pretty sure they have 14,000 people on a waiting list for season tickets. They should be fine.

 

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I betting that it's not 14,000 "people". Knowing Vegas, a ton of those were probably purchased by the casinos or other entities to give out as comps.

Not that it matters, 14,000 sold is still 14,000 sold. 

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On 6/16/2016 at 2:12 PM, mrthemike said:

Here's an article from Mr Nate Silver from fivethirtyeight on why Vegas is a terrible location for an NHL team: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/las-vegas-is-a-terrible-place-for-an-nhl-team/

 

 

 

I'm not expecting Vegas to be a huge success, but fivethirtyeight has been incredibly wrong before.

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Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank.  They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency.  At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. 

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1 hour ago, vadvlfan said:

Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank.  They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency.  At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. 

Yeah and the low canadian dollar fvcking sucks at the moment. I'm buying something on ebay from the US for $500 and it comes to like $750 canadian and it's frustrating... so i can't imagine paying millions for stuff.

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Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank.  They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency.  At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. 

Yeah and the low canadian dollar fvcking sucks at the moment. I'm buying something on ebay from the US for $500 and it comes to like $750 canadian and it's frustrating... so i can't imagine paying millions for stuff.

Damn, I didn't realize it was that bad... It wasn't long ago that the CAD was on par with the USD. If the CAD was in this type of shape five years ago, we probably don't have a team in Winnipeg right now. Atlanta would've gone to another US market.

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On 6/19/2016 at 8:38 AM, vadvlfan said:

Listening to Scott laughlan the other day, it's clear that Quebec's bid to have a team hit a major snag. Canadian dollar is in the tank.  They would have to come up with $750 mil up front to offset currency.  At this time, Anywhere in Ca. would be a pricey thing. Quebec has a rink at least and will succeed!. 

Where does the $750 million figure come from? Last I checked (a couple days ago), $1CA was worth about $.778 US, a 22.2% difference. That would put the expansion fee (aside from whatever taxes and other fees are levied) at a little over $611,000,000 CA. A major difference, sure, but far from the $750,000,000 CA suggested here. That would make the exchange rate $1CA to $.666 US.

I've made this argument before. The cost of doing business in Canada right now is pricey, but these are the same issues all other 7 cities are dealing with. Quebec will be a bigger revenue earner than Winnipeg being in a bigger market and a much larger stadium. Winnipeg makes $50 million on ticket sales alone. If Quebec averages the same ticket price as the Jets do, they're making closer to $60 million. They'll probably make a bunch more money on their media deal, too.

The absolute bottom line is that Quebec will be a profitable enterprise. The NHL can't shut down on Canada every time their currency fluctuates, because that's what happens in Canada. It's a rentier economy. They have to pay their players in $US, so what. It's only a %22 percent difference. All of their other operating costs are in $CA. If they wait 3-5 years on Quebec, they lose 3-5 years of a team that will probably have an immediate operating profit between $11-13 million US.

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can't speculate on devils until they actually fill out a roster.

 

we know for sure:

schneider

greene

larsson

palmieri

henrique

 

you'd assume severson and blandisi would get protected.

a guy like merrill or moore will be exposed to take care of the D requirement.

but what it also means is shero's gonna have to give out at least 1 (and likely 2) 2-year deals to filler so that he can expose that player(s). and its gotta be someone who plays. sure that could be josefson if you want to give him 2 years (which i'd be fine with). DSP is going to get multiple years - i suppose he can be exposed.

or, like many have postulated, he'll expose zajac (which you can do b/c NTC's can be drafted) and hope that his big contract scares vegas away. but as i've argued a lot, zajac's contract, as the devils are constituted and likely will be for the next 3 years, is not an issue. and good teams need a player like travis zajac. they just don't need want him as their 1C.

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I mean, it really doesn't matter - they just aren't going to have to expose a player of consequence unless they want to.   Exposing Zajac is fine - that deal is already not good, it's going to get ugly very soon.

In addition, basically every other team will have to expose someone better.

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In theory, I agree exposing Zajac is fairly low risk. But, who are we replacing him with if he goes? This team already needs offensive players, not sure also losing our best defensive forward is a good idea.

Josefson is a far better slternative if the choice were between the two. 

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Does Cammalleri have a NMC?

If not, I'd expose him.  Sucks to lose out on probably our purest scorer, but that contract will kinda suck in a year or two.  Especially if he only manages 40ish games each year.

I would protect him because say later in the contract he has a monster year and is healthy at the trade deadline he could be a hot commodity.

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25 minutes ago, Zubie#8 said:

I would protect him because say later in the contract he has a monster year and is healthy at the trade deadline he could be a hot commodity.

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Isn't he like 34 or soon to be 35?  I just don't see him becoming a sought after player as the years go by and his health continues to be a question mark.  If he gets snatched up it would suck, but that just gives more incentive and reason to put further emphasis and thought on our younger guys -- developing what we have now, and continuing to try to acquire more talent.

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