MadDog2020 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Ugliest 33 completion 337 yard 3 td 0 int game I've ever seen I'd love to see just a breakdown of guys passing yards when the game is either tied or or up +14 or down -14. Garbage time stats are just completely obscuring QB evaluation nowadays.Their needs to be a better breakdown and evaluation of clutch qb'ing much like you have the "late and close" stats in baseball. Dude sounds just like Tannehill... Plays like sh!t, but will put up garbage time stats that will make people who didn't watch think 'Oh Tannehill didn't play that bad'. Misleading. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 Just cancel the rest of the AFC season and we can have that inevitable Broncos/Patriots AFC Championship Game next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 28 minutes ago, '7' said: Just cancel the rest of the AFC season and we can have that inevitable Broncos/Patriots AFC Championship Game next week. Really depends if Big Ben comes back...his team can definitely make a run, even with their issues...speaking of which, the Pats' D still has issues too, in spite of not giving up too many points. The locals up in NE aren't fooled by the D either...they were hurling a LOT of criticism towards Puppet yesterday...on three different plays, the Pats once had 12 players in on defense (they were whistled for this), and on two other occasions were a man short...BB did not look happy on the sidelines. The main point of the criticism, despite the general sloppiness, is that many feel that talent is not currently an issue with NE's D, but the same issues keep persisting. Damn near NO pass rush far too often. Easily carved up. Right now it's all getting covered up yet again during the regular season because the Brady Express is back in town, racking up the points...but if Denver gets the #1 seed in the playoffs, and NE has to go there, they're in big trouble...that D can shut down Brady & Co, and you don't ever ask NE's D to win a game for you (yes, at times they still do, but this is clearly not the early 2000s group, and hasn't been for years). This team can win the Super Bowl, sure, but they have to clinch homefield throughout to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 CR, cmon... I mean... Cmon. Who's beating them? I appreciate that you are one of the few humble Pats fans out there, but those of us who hate the Pats know the deal. The only thing derailing that train is a Brady injury and that's it. Just a matter of who they play in the SB, because the road to Houston is going through Foxboro this year. They're not losing another game this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Jets always play the Pats tough, even when they're struggling against others. Ravens play them tough too. I think they finish 13-3, if Brady and a few other key players (like Gronk) all stay healthy. As long as they don't lose in Denver, that should get them the #1 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Pats just traded Jamie Collins to Cleveland for a 3rd. Wtf...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 17 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Pats just traded Jamie Collins to Cleveland for a 3rd. Wtf... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Those mofos don't mess around if you aren't doing what's best for the team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Those mofos don't mess around if you aren't doing what's best for the team Belichick is savage.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 2 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Belichick is savage. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's one thing to trade him...but trading him to Cleveland is like old school Lou banishing guys to Western Canada for holding out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Remember when they traded I think it was Seymour to he Raiders and everybody as WTF'ing that too. The Patriots make some headscratching moves at times. Does it work out for them more often than not? Yes. It probably just got to the point Belichick thought Collins couldn't be redeemed and was uncoachable. Browns are starved for talent anywhere Edited October 31, 2016 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 46 minutes ago, '7' said: Remember when they traded I think it was Seymour to he Raiders and everybody as WTF'ing that too. The Patriots make some headscratching moves at times. Does it work out for them more often than not? Yes. It probably just got to the point Belichick thought Collins couldn't be redeemed and was uncoachable. Browns are starved for talent anywhere He is also a free agent-to-be and is supposedly looking for a huge payday. But yeah, I had a feeling it had to be something like what Has posted. Kinda reminds of the Randy Moss' last game as a Patriot, where he just flat-out quit on a play (was supposed to block and didn't) and wasn't making much effort in general on the season. Yeah, somehow BB tends to be right with these kinds of moves. Wouldn't surprise me if part of the reason for this move was to shake up others. The D hasn't been as good as its results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Another banner day in the making for Puppet's D. Enough with this bend-but-don't-break sh!t. Most overrated coordinator in the NFL. The QB shouldn't have to constantly cover up for you. Glad that extra week of prep really helped you out. Of course they're not making any big stops tonight. Brady (and NE) finally gets picked...c'mon Puppet, maybe for once your D can pick up the O. About fvcking time. Nope, of course you can't even hold Seattle to a fvcking field goal before the half. fvck you Puppet. fvck you. Edited November 14, 2016 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 BB, for the love of God, get a real fvcking coordinator already. Same old sh!t coming-up-small NE "defense". Of course they're incapable of rising up after Edelman fumbled. Up to Brady and the O to bail them out yet again. NE's D scares NO ONE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Frustrating. So frustrating. Oh well...at least it's an out-of-conference loss. Thanks for nothing tonight Puppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 (edited) Brady's QB sneak usually has about a 100% success rate there. NE's like didn't get the push they needed Going to Gronkowski in single coverage is always a no brainer. Trouble is when you have a play from the one and the pass is thrown so quickly you don't give him enough time to free up. That is really the best defense against Gronkowski. Have him run into you and go down as incidental contact. How stupid was Carroll with that 2 point play. I'll never consider this guy a coaching great Edited November 14, 2016 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 Carroll also taking shots at Patriots fans in the aftermath. I'm not on either side clearly here, but to be fair it just further proves my point that Carroll is an immature clown still who is lucky to have Schneider with him. I'm not saying he's a bad coach. He's an average to sometimes above average coach who has really benefited from a great front office. Sort of like Tomlin. To me I consider guys like John Harbaugh, Belichick, John Fox, Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy a cut above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Carroll was a total fvck-up as the Pats' HC in his three seasons there...basically took what Parcells built and slowly but surely destroyed it. In fairness, it wasn't all on him...Bledsoe was pretty maddening in those three seasons (just way too many costly mistakes, and he was awful in the playoffs for the most part). Drew also would fade in the second half of many of his seasons; you could almost set your watch to it. But Carroll has always been a cheerleader to me...and the country club he ran in NE was a joke. I agree with much of what you say '7', re: Carroll. Currently he's ok, but not really great. Re: the game, Seahawks performed better. Brady's lone pick was an awful throw, and Edelman's fumble was costly. The botched QB sneak hurt too. Pats will be in trouble come playoff time...Puppet and his D will always be a problem...the ONLY positive there is that they don't give as many points as their yards allowed suggests they should, but there's just guys open all over the place. The team is still too dependent on Brady and Co. racking up 30+ every game, and it's aggravating as hell. The terrific W-L records have helped Puppet fly under the radar, but he is awful. He's gotta go. Edited November 15, 2016 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Watching this Denver-Chiefs game and seeing what Carroll did near the end of the game against the Pats a couple weeks ago I'm starting to come around to the mindset of going for two up seven with >5 minutes to go in the game. What's the downside? You get second-guessed if the other team drives the field to score and only has to kick an XP instead of going for two to tie the game themselves? Big deal, either way you don't lose the game in regulation, but you can win it by being agressive. Carroll went for it, didn't make it - it didn't matter and he probably would have been killed if the Pats had tied the game, but not going for it cost the Broncos cause the Chiefs did drive the field and score the two. Edited November 28, 2016 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 28, 2016 Author Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) Good news for all. Finally some rumblings about TNF getting canned. Though of course they'll probably try some other weird package. Like a standard Saturday Night game (even though that's NCAAF territory) http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/11/28/should-the-nfl-consider-ditching-thursday-night-football/ Edited November 28, 2016 by '7' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 TNF just doesn't work...too many bad games, and the quality of the product suffers. Fans are also not really feeling it anymore. Hard to imagine Goodell actually admitting to those facts though. Don't dial it back to half a season or whatever...just end it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 I didn't mind Thursday Nights from Thanksgiving and beyond.....even the opening game was managable.....but all season??? It did make the weeks just evaporate....least they are FINALLY realizing they over-saturated the damned market Collinsworth was pissy about it...but he made a great point....the number of ties has gone WAY UP since this idiotic "everyone gets the ball once" rule....play defense....don't let them get to FG range.....deal with it...but I swear to Christ if they go with the college football "Shootouts without ice" concept I might be done with football....that whole concept craps on 2/3rds of the game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, CRASHER said: I didn't mind Thursday Nights from Thanksgiving and beyond.....even the opening game was managable.....but all season??? It did make the weeks just evaporate....least they are FINALLY realizing they over-saturated the damned market Collinsworth was pissy about it...but he made a great point....the number of ties has gone WAY UP since this idiotic "everyone gets the ball once" rule....play defense....don't let them get to FG range.....deal with it...but I swear to Christ if they go with the college football "Shootouts without ice" concept I might be done with football....that whole concept craps on 2/3rds of the game Yeah I'm not a big fan of the college football OT either. I don't know if I'd equate it to the shootout per se though, I'd equate it more to 3-on-3 where it's kindasorta the sport but not really. Edited November 29, 2016 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I like the NFL overtime rule changes. The two or three ties it might cause per year are not a big deal. Indifferent to whether they get rid of Thursday night football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 29, 2016 Author Share Posted November 29, 2016 I wasn't so keen on it at first but I do like it now. In a sport where 2 quick throws (or 1 throw and a bogus PI) can set up a FG, when kickes have the leg to nail 55 yarders with room to spare...you really need to give both teams a chance at the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRASHER Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 I want ties back in hockey for what its worth I'm OK with ties in football too, it's a HUGE help for the team with the better record (and always seems to help them get into the playoffs and lessens the pain of all the tie breaker math that floats around too)....I just find it funny how many people go crazy OMG IT WAS A TIE, HOW TERRIBLE!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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