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What Shattenkirk did was more the exception than the rule. I think most guys don't decide where to play based on who they cheered for growing up, they decide based on appeal of city, $, term, caliber of team and which roster is the best fit/opportunity. Obviously for a lower level player it is based most on who will offer them a contract. 

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7 minutes ago, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said:

What Shattenkirk did was more the exception than the rule. I think most guys don't decide where to play based on who they cheered for growing up, they decide based on appeal of city, $, term, caliber of team and which roster is the best fit/opportunity. Obviously for a lower level player it is based most on who will offer them a contract. 

Yeah, I mean the last time I remember someone making a point of going to play for the team they grew up rooting for was Clarkson signing with Toronto, and they still had to give him that ridiculous contract.

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3 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Rick Tocchet behind the bench during a game: Johnny, whats your thoughts on what you're seeing out here?

MacLean: WELL RICKY THE GUYS HAVEN'T GENERATED MUCH BUT THEY'RE MOVING THEIR LEGS AND THEY GOTTA STICK TO THE GAMEPLAN AND CLICHE AND CLICHE AND CLICHE. BACK TO YOU RICK.

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Rick Tocchet behind the bench during a game: Johnny, whats your thoughts on what you're seeing out here?
MacLean: WELL RICKY THE GUYS HAVEN'T GENERATED MUCH BUT THEY'RE MOVING THEIR LEGS AND THEY GOTTA STICK TO THE GAMEPLAN AND CLICHE AND CLICHE AND CLICHE. BACK TO YOU RICK.

WELL YA KNOW TOCCHS, THE GUYS AREN'T YA KNOW GETTING MUCH OF A YA KNOW FORECHECK YA KNOW, BUT IF THEY STICK TO THE PLAN YA KNOW THINGS WILL PICK UP YA KNOW.


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On 7/22/2017 at 11:06 AM, Martyisth3b3st said:

This is absolutely true. My cousin for a little while looked to be a lock for at least being drafted; was playing Junior A's and was a freshman captain of his state-winning high school. Didn't pan out for him; some injuries and he never really kept growing. But whenever I'd hang around with he and his hockey friends (TVR was one of them) I thought it was so bizarre that none of them really had a team. A few rangers fans, a few Devils fans, but none of them cared much or knew what was going on too much. It wasn't a small sample size either.

Have heard many guys say this, I think it is the fact that the better kids play on teams that travel to so many tournaments, they simply do not have much time to watch the NHL.  A kid I knew played on 2 different "elite" teams on LI when we were in Jr High and HS.  In elementary school he was a big Isles fan, but when he made these teams he simply didn't have time to watch.  He had practice almost every night during the week and had games/tournaments on weekends.

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Markov signed in the KHL for the year FWIW... 

ETA: link with details  -  http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2017/07/27/andrei-markov-says-hes-khl-bound-after-saying-goodbye-to-canadiens/

ETA2: TG tweet  -  Tom Gulitti ‏Verified account @TomGulittiNHL

Sometimes things don't make sense. Markov wanted to stay with Canadiens, said he was willing to take 1-year deal. Why isn't he back?

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I am having the hardest time today with hockey withdraw symptoms. I've done nothing but watch hockey videos since I got home from work yesterday. Even bought 2003 game 7 against Anaheim off amazon. I know the team won't be making a 180 next season, but I am just super hopeful they will be competitive and fun to watch most nights with all these young talented kids on the team.

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Good article on what Gomez learned from his (only Devils & pre-Devils) coaches throughout the years: 

http://www.nyhockeyjournal.com/nyhockeyjournal/august_2017/MobilePagedArticle.action?articleId=1135992&app=false#articleId1135992

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"I never, ever hated a guy so much," Gomez stated. "But Burnsie lit a fire in me the second half of (the 2002-03 season) I didn’t know I had. The greatest day of my life was when I came back to the bench and he said something and I (cursed at him). Burnsie got a little chuckle and responded, ‘Oh, tough tonight, all right.’ 

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2 hours ago, LittleBallofHate said:

Good article on what Gomez learned from his (only Devils & pre-Devils) coaches throughout the years: 

http://www.nyhockeyjournal.com/nyhockeyjournal/august_2017/MobilePagedArticle.action?articleId=1135992&app=false#articleId1135992

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"I never, ever hated a guy so much," Gomez stated. "But Burnsie lit a fire in me the second half of (the 2002-03 season) I didn’t know I had. The greatest day of my life was when I came back to the bench and he said something and I (cursed at him). Burnsie got a little chuckle and responded, ‘Oh, tough tonight, all right.’ 

Burnsie ruled. 

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2 hours ago, LittleBallofHate said:

Good article on what Gomez learned from his (only Devils & pre-Devils) coaches throughout the years: 

http://www.nyhockeyjournal.com/nyhockeyjournal/august_2017/MobilePagedArticle.action?articleId=1135992&app=false#articleId1135992

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"I never, ever hated a guy so much," Gomez stated. "But Burnsie lit a fire in me the second half of (the 2002-03 season) I didn’t know I had. The greatest day of my life was when I came back to the bench and he said something and I (cursed at him). Burnsie got a little chuckle and responded, ‘Oh, tough tonight, all right.’ 

Thanks for sharing. 

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On 7/28/2017 at 3:01 PM, LittleBallofHate said:

Congrats to Jay! :cheers:

 Tom Gulitti Retweeted

Mark Divver‏ @MarkDivver  

Jay Leach promoted to @AHLBruins head coach. Spencer Carbery (OHL Saginaw) will be new assistant coach, joining holdover Trent Whitfield

Good news for the former Mr. Kathryn Tappen.  Still his biggest accomplishment in life. :)

 

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On 07/22/2017 at 4:44 PM, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said:

What Shattenkirk did was more the exception than the rule. I think most guys don't decide where to play based on who they cheered for growing up, they decide based on appeal of city, $, term, caliber of team and which roster is the best fit/opportunity. Obviously for a lower level player it is based most on who will offer them a contract. 

 Appeal of city, the first thing you mentioned. For most guys, their hometown is going to be as if not more appealing than any amenity a certain city has. It's certainly not so much about the team itself, but your hometown is probably tough to turn down if they're pursuing you. I'm sure that's not true for everyone, I bet plenty of guys feel more attached to the place that drafted them at 17 and that they've lived in for the past however many years. A lot of them left home very young on top of everything else. But a player wanting to play in their hometown certainly isn't an "exception". Look at Parise, Suter, Clarkson, Kovalchuk, Hamonic, just off the top of my head. Stamkos was most definitely a leaf if  he hadn't re-signed in Tampa.

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Didn't think this deserved it's own topic but Julie R. has been officially replaced with Amanda Stein (who covered the Devils during the Prospects Camp); she is running the All-Acess Blog, etc.  Her twitter handle is @amandacstein in case anyone wants to give a follow...  I thought she did a really nice job at the Camp & she's got lots of experience (7 years with TSN covering the Habs). 

 

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On 8/4/2017 at 11:13 PM, thecoffeecake said:

 Appeal of city, the first thing you mentioned. For most guys, their hometown is going to be as if not more appealing than any amenity a certain city has. It's certainly not so much about the team itself, but your hometown is probably tough to turn down if they're pursuing you. I'm sure that's not true for everyone, I bet plenty of guys feel more attached to the place that drafted them at 17 and that they've lived in for the past however many years. A lot of them left home very young on top of everything else. But a player wanting to play in their hometown certainly isn't an "exception". Look at Parise, Suter, Clarkson, Kovalchuk, Hamonic, just off the top of my head. Stamkos was most definitely a leaf if  he hadn't re-signed in Tampa.

Think it depends on the player and the team.  I have heard that a lot of guys from Ontario have no interest in playing for the Leafs.  I think another part of it is how their lives changed after getting drafted.  If they got drafted at 18, were playing in a city at 20, met their wife in that city, had kids while in that city, their attitude about "home" changes.  If they met their wife while playing Jrs and the wife followed them around from jrs to ahl city to nhl city, I think it is a little different.  Don't underestimate the influence the wife will have on the decision.  Although, the one thing I HATE is when the player will try to use the school system as a reason, ala Mike Hampton.  As if someone signing with the Flyers is going to be sending their kids to the Camden Public Schools.  They are either going to live in one of the wealthier towns in the suburbs, and/or send their kids to private schools.

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