Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Marty needed to be dragged from the game kicking and screaming...much as I love the guy and everything he did, he always came off as being oblivious to his decline...that if some team was willing to give him the lion's share of starts, that he still had some great hockey left in him. Sadly it was going to take what happened with the Blues (I think it might have been Tri who posted a video of one of Marty's last games, where he had basically zero lateral movement left) for Marty to see that there really and truly was nothing left...but at least it gave him closure. I have nothing to base this on, but I think it's different with Elias. Not saying that he doesn't still have a deep desire to play, but I think he's more of a "if it's meant to be, it will happen" guy. I think he's at relative peace with the idea that it might be over for him...if he doesn't have it anymore, I don't see him trying to force the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: He might if nobody else makes him an offer. 40 year old who has essentially not played in over a year (minus 16 games), with an unproven surgical knee is not the most attractive free agent. Plus, if he's got one year left, who wants to switch teams for just a couple games before you realize you can't do it and you hang them up? SUCH IMAGES SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THIS FORUM! I kid but.. it actually pains me to see that. Also - the fact that it's now a running joke to call him "Blues legend Marty Brodeur" actually pisses me off more than I'm proud to admit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 ^Why did he have to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundstrom Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 elias has always struck me as more cerebral than marty. i think he loves the game, sure, but won't force it to stay. i also think that he has no desires to be a GM in the league. i would expect him to return to Czech to live and come to NJ a couple times a year for appearances and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 elias has always struck me as more cerebral than marty. i think he loves the game, sure, but won't force it to stay. i also think that he has no desires to be a GM in the league. i would expect him to return to Czech to live and come to NJ a couple times a year for appearances and such. I don't know I think he really likes living here... Pretty sure his oldest daughter is in school here. But who knows, I know his kids are very young, so maybe he will go back to the CR with his family. Depends on what he and Mrs. Patty want for the kids. But I hope he stays and works for the team in some capacity, it would be great to have Patty around the organization. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 6 hours ago, Devilsfan118 said: SUCH IMAGES SHOULD BE BANNED FROM THIS FORUM! I kid but.. it actually pains me to see that. Also - the fact that it's now a running joke to call him "Blues legend Marty Brodeur" actually pisses me off more than I'm proud to admit. That jersey actually doesn't bother me...I see it as a symbol of a guy who needed to find out the hard way (for guys like Marty, the ONLY way) that the game was done with him. I also think about what a nightmare it would've been for Cory and everyone else involved if Marty had played his last little bit of hockey with the Devils. Marty complaining about how difficult it is to be consistent unless he gets more playing time...Marty getting "legacy" starts here and there at Cory's expense...to me, Marty playing that handful of games with another team was worth not having to deal with the inevitable headaches that would've come with him being a player here one more season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 20 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: That jersey actually doesn't bother me...I see it as a symbol of a guy who needed to find out the hard way (for guys like Marty, the ONLY way) that the game was done with him. I also think about what a nightmare it would've been for Cory and everyone else involved if Marty had played his last little bit of hockey with the Devils. Marty complaining about how difficult it is to be consistent unless he gets more playing time...Marty getting "legacy" starts here and there at Cory's expense...to me, Marty playing that handful of games with another team was worth not having to deal with the inevitable headaches that would've come with him being a player here one more season. I 100% supported Marty, because whether he had anything left or not, he didn't want to give up, and he didn't let anyone tell him he had to give up. I respect that. That's why I have the jersey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I 100% supported Marty, because whether he had anything left or not, he didn't want to give up, and he didn't let anyone tell him he had to give up. I respect that. That's why I have the jersey. Sometimes it's nice when these guys can see for themselves that forever believing in yourself or not wanting to quit isn't always a good reason to keep trying. Marty had two very meh years in a row prior to that Blues dalliance and was flat-out old (especially for a goalie...no one had played anywhere near as many games as Marty for a career). Like I've always said, if that's what he needed to do to prove to himself once and for all that he really was done, and someone was willing to give him that chance, fine. But I always hated to see former greats hang on too long myself. I think it will be different with Patrik. Much of matter-of-fact, if that makes any sense. Edited September 13, 2016 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: But I always hated to see former greats hang on too long myself. I understand that. But as bad as people want to say Marty was, he was only a couple years removed from a trip to the Finals. I am not saying he still had what he used to, he clearly didn't. But you can kind of understand why he thought he had more than he did. In any event, as much as I don't want to see guys hanging on too long, I can also understand the allure of leaving on your own terms. The Devils didn't offer him that opportunity, going to St. Louis did. And, he landed a front office job, which I don't think for a minute was a coincidence or something they decided to do AFTER he hung up his skates. Was likely part of the deal all along, and probably something he knew he wasn't going to be offered in New Jersey because Lou was preparing to leave. I am pretty sure Lou and Marty had that conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zubie#8 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 That Jersey is hideous, and the ones who where it at the Rock are laughable IMO.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 47 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I 100% supported Marty, because whether he had anything left or not, he didn't want to give up, and he didn't let anyone tell him he had to give up. I respect that. That's why I have the jersey. Any player can keep going as long as they keep wanting to play and can keep finding teams to play them. I certainly respect that - it's not up to fans to tell a player when his career is over. That said, Marty's public fantasizing about playing in other cities during the 2013-14 season rubbed me the wrong way as a fan of the Devils and as a fan of Brodeur - he was the last guy to figure out he was no longer an NHL-caliber goalie (and Doug Armstrong was the 2nd to last). It was like watching a starving man audibly plan a six-course meal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBallofHate Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 Gross posted a semi-update from an interview with Shero: “The worst thing with a sore knee is to push something,” Shero said. “He knows his body pretty well. He’s in fantastic shape. He looks great. We’re talking about his knee here so whenever he gets to that point where he can push a little bit more and kind of see how it reacts, I think that’s where he’s got to get to and whether that’s at some point later on (maybe) he can rejoin us for practice and see how he does and see how the knee reacts. We haven’t really gotten to that point, either, because let’s just see how things go for him. “There’s no deadline whatsoever,” Shero added. “We’ll just keep in communication with him and see how he’s feeling.” Full blog post here: http://fireandice.northjersey.com/fire-ice-1.174987/shero-no-timetable-for-making-a-decision-on-elias-nothing-imminent-in-terms-of-extending-ptos-1.1659849 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazer Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 patty to the blues...i can see it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 Patty had been skating in his home country of CR , now back in the USA he is rehabbing at the Pru Center. Shero says no decision as of yet and no rush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 He'll be a late re-sign, I'm guessing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 13 hours ago, mfitz804 said: He'll be a late re-sign, I'm guessing. I hope you are correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 16 hours ago, lazer said: patty to the blues...i can see it now You shut your whore mouth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Wonder if Elias will be in a sort of holding pattern through the first couple months of the season like Mair was in the one season he played with us and will only get signed if 1) His knee feels good enough and 2) Injuries to the team opens a spot for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 53 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: Wonder if Elias will be in a sort of holding pattern through the first couple months of the season like Mair was in the one season he played with us and will only get signed if 1) His knee feels good enough and 2) Injuries to the team opens a spot for him. That's exactly what I am thinking. Like I said previously, after game #2 when Cammallieri is hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonNala370 Posted September 14, 2016 Author Share Posted September 14, 2016 55 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: That's exactly what I am thinking. Like I said previously, after game #2 when Cammallieri is hurt. 2 days when Cammalleri is hurt, I know you are kidding but the reality Cammy is so prone to injuries we might have been better to have traded him if any team would take him @$5M. Maybe the Devils should eat some of his salary for trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 32 minutes ago, BostonNala370 said: 2 days when Cammalleri is hurt, I know you are kidding but the reality Cammy is so prone to injuries we might have been better to have traded him if any team would take him @$5M. Maybe the Devils should eat some of his salary for trade. Only kidding about the game 2 part. He will get hurt. I'm not sure I'd want to trade him, with Henrique, Cammalleri, Hall, and Palmieri (assuming he comes close to repeating last year), I think we have a good shot at scoring some goals this year. I guess like any trade, depends what you're offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Eco Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 On 9/12/2016 at 5:48 PM, DevsMan84 said: Based off of what evidence? The same one that last year had people thinking Brodeur would be a good GM with zero experience? I never saw Brodeur as GM or AGM, I could see Elias in that position and have thought that for 5+ years now. I think he has an eye and the right mind for how a team is run and assembled, and I base that on what comes out of his mouth after wins, losses, preseasons, postseasons. I think he always has his pulse on what the team needs, is lacking, is doing well. Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzMB30 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 On 9/14/2016 at 0:55 PM, DevsMan84 said: Wonder if Elias will be in a sort of holding pattern through the first couple months of the season like Mair was in the one season he played with us and will only get signed if 1) His knee feels good enough and 2) Injuries to the team opens a spot for him. This is most likely the scenario. Why burn a contract on an injured player...it's nice that Shero still seems to want him to be a part of the team, but let Elias get to a point where he is back to whatever 100% is for him. We really didn't see enough of Elias last season to even understand where his game is at. IIRC, most of the board here was sh!tting on his play and tbh he really wasn't that good. How bad has the skating declined? How bad has the ability to keep up and play a fast style of hockey eroded? I'm bummed, but we all knew that we'd have to say goodbye eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilsfan26 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 On 9/13/2016 at 4:30 PM, Triumph said: Any player can keep going as long as they keep wanting to play and can keep finding teams to play them. I certainly respect that - it's not up to fans to tell a player when his career is over. I was about to say pretty much exactly this. This is a person's career. As long as someone is willing to employ them, who are we to say they should retire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I didn't watch Martys games in St Louis It never happened as far as I'm concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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