RizzMB30 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I wasn't aware that he was claimed by Nashville until just now because of working late, but holy sh!t. I was sitting here thinking...what if Lou up in Toronto wanted him too possibly? Legit? Not legit? I had a nightmare that it was Auston Matthews "doing the skating" for him and he scores 40 or something absurd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Toronto had waiver priority over Nashville. They have a bunch of guys on the fringe like Boucher and don't need another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 I don't get it. Boucher shows flashes of scoring the way Josefson never has, and Jo gets to hang around for half a decade with his schlong in his hand and Boucher is waived the second it's expedient. I understand Josefson is vastly talented, but I think we understand it won't translate to success at the NHL level. The man is going to be an MVP when he ends up back in Sweden, but the North American game isn't for him. The jury is still out on Boucher. I'm not saying I want Josefson out necessarily, it just seems silly to give up on Boucher while a guy like him hangs around forever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, thecoffeecake said: I don't get it. Boucher shows flashes of scoring the way Josefson never has, and Jo gets to hang around for half a decade with his schlong in his hand and Boucher is waived the second it's expedient. I understand Josefson is vastly talented, but I think we understand it won't translate to success at the NHL level. The man is going to be an MVP when he ends up back in Sweden, but the North American game isn't for him. The jury is still out on Boucher. I'm not saying I want Josefson out necessarily, it just seems silly to give up on Boucher while a guy like him hangs around forever. Josefson can still be a useful when he isn't putting the puck in the net, the same can't be said about Boucher. If Reid isn't scoring, he doesn't bring anything else to the team; honestly I'd much rather have JJ on our roster than Boucher, I think to this point Bouch has shown he can't bring anything unless he's playing in the top 6, and there's not a spot for him there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 hours ago, CommonDreads said: Josefson can still be a useful when he isn't putting the puck in the net, the same can't be said about Boucher. If Reid isn't scoring, he doesn't bring anything else to the team; honestly I'd much rather have JJ on our roster than Boucher, I think to this point Bouch has shown he can't bring anything unless he's playing in the top 6, and there's not a spot for him there. I agree with everything you said here. Josefson isn't the more useful player in an all around situation. Boucher needs to play top 6 with a puck mover on his line to be effective. That said, I don't understand calling up Quennville and keeping him up only to waive Boucher a day later. I would have sent JQ down to make room for Hall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Chuck the Duck said: I agree with everything you said here. Josefson isn't the more useful player in an all around situation. Boucher needs to play top 6 with a puck mover on his line to be effective. That said, I don't understand calling up Quennville and keeping him up only to waive Boucher a day later. I would have sent JQ down to make room for Hall. They like Quenneville more. He's putting up similar numbers to Boucher in his rookie AHL season and he has a better all around game. As for Josefson, he plays center and the Devils are horrendously weak at center. If Zacha misses any time at all, Josefson will have to get in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0asterleav1ns Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) I feel like everyone has forgotten how solid Boucher was last year for us. He had 19 points in 39 games. Hes 23 years old, and was barely given a shot this year, after looking like he might be breaking out last year. Also, I get that one of our overall team concepts is speed, but does that mean there's NO room for players who aren't fast? Boucher's shot, especially on the power play (if he got power play time) is world class. It doesnt make sense to me. *Josefson has 2 fvcking points in 13 games this year. Edited December 4, 2016 by Toasterleavins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Triumph said: They like Quenneville more. He's putting up similar numbers to Boucher in his rookie AHL season and he has a better all around game. As for Josefson, he plays center and the Devils are horrendously weak at center. If Zacha misses any time at all, Josefson will have to get in there. I get all that. I just think that Q should have been sent back down to continue his development in the AHL, rather than play 4th line minutes at best up here. Q is the better prospect no doubt. I wasn't questioning that. Problem with Boucher is that he is only going to be remotely effective in a top 6 role, and he won't get that with everyone healthy here. I hope he tears it up in Nashville. If not and they end up waiving him, hopefully the Devils reclaim him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 31 minutes ago, Toasterleavins said: I feel like everyone has forgotten how solid Boucher was last year for us. He had 19 points in 39 games. Hes 23 years old, and was barely given a shot this year, after looking like he might be breaking out last year. Also, I get that one of our overall team concepts is speed, but does that mean there's NO room for players who aren't fast? Boucher's shot, especially on the power play (if he got power play time) is world class. It doesnt make sense to me. *Josefson has 2 fvcking points in 13 games this year. It's not that Boucher isn't fast - he's slow. He struggles on the backcheck because of his lack of speed. He struggles to make defenders move because of his lack of speed. He scored some big goals last year but the Devils really got crushed with him on the ice last year. 12 minutes ago, Chuck the Duck said: I get all that. I just think that Q should have been sent back down to continue his development in the AHL, rather than play 4th line minutes at best up here. Q is the better prospect no doubt. I wasn't questioning that. Problem with Boucher is that he is only going to be remotely effective in a top 6 role, and he won't get that with everyone healthy here. I hope he tears it up in Nashville. If not and they end up waiving him, hopefully the Devils reclaim him. The Devils are running 4 offensive lines now. Boucher wasn't effective in part because he isn't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 11 hours ago, thecoffeecake said: I don't get it. Boucher shows flashes of scoring the way Josefson never has, and Jo gets to hang around for half a decade with his schlong in his hand and Boucher is waived the second it's expedient. I understand Josefson is vastly talented, but I think we understand it won't translate to success at the NHL level. The man is going to be an MVP when he ends up back in Sweden, but the North American game isn't for him. The jury is still out on Boucher. I'm not saying I want Josefson out necessarily, it just seems silly to give up on Boucher while a guy like him hangs around forever. I totally want Josefson out. I can't stand him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 54 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: I totally want Josefson out. I can't stand him. I'd rather boot Lovejoy first, doesnt seem like he fits the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 1 hour ago, jagknife said: I'd rather boot Lovejoy first, doesnt seem like he fits the system. Well if we are talking about Defensemen, I'd send Lovejoy packing and Merrill could do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 22 hours ago, Toasterleavins said: I feel like everyone has forgotten how solid Boucher was last year for us. He had 19 points in 39 games. Hes 23 years old, and was barely given a shot this year, after looking like he might be breaking out last year. Also, I get that one of our overall team concepts is speed, but does that mean there's NO room for players who aren't fast? Boucher's shot, especially on the power play (if he got power play time) is world class. It doesnt make sense to me. *Josefson has 2 fvcking points in 13 games this year. I agree with and understand both points. While I really don't like losing Boucher, for the reasons you described above, I also didn't want to see JJ let go either, because as long as the shootout is around and can possibly get you an extra point, it's worth keeping him on the roster, if even just for that. It has already helped us a few times, and with our current roster and being a fringe playoff team, a point here or there from a game like that could actually be quite critical. That aside, like I said I was not in favor of losing Boucher at all, and I think he definitely had potential. I also have no idea why they wouldn't send Quenville back down (even though I am also REALLY excited to see him get a shot soon), so that Hall could come up without having to waive and lose someone. Just makes absolutely no sense to me. Has to be more personal reasons and feelings behind the scenes that we don't know about because the hockey ones just don't add up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Maybe Boucher had a meeting with the coaching staff and they decided the best thing for him was playing in the AHL or getting claimed. It may have been as simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 He is dreadfully slow, though. I think it was less noticeable last year. I've noticed Henrique is much slower than I thought as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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