2018 JETS

[NJDevs4978]

5 minutes ago, Daniel said:

I think one has to come to the conclusion that the Jets are a relatively good team. 

Ehhhh no.  Not after that meltdown at the end of the first half.  Instead of it being 14-7 or 17-7 it's now tied because Robby Anderson slipped on a route and someone got beat over the top from midfleld with less than half a minute remaining.  That was an old fashioned SOJ finish to the half.  

And how about this GREAT defensive line coming to play?  Mo, hello?  Overrated Leonard Williams, hello?  Still zero sacks and counting.  Kony Ealy off the street has been their best d-lineman.  The rest of this D is dog****

MetLife sounds like frigging Foxboro.  It's like Cleveland during the World Series when all the Cubs fans came to invade in Game 7.

Edited October 15, 2017 by NJDevs4978

[Daniel]

2 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Ehhhh no.  Not after that meltdown at the end of the first half.  Instead of it being 14-7 or 17-7 it's now tied because Robby Anderson slipped on a route and someone got beat over the top from midfleld with less than half a minute remaining.  That was an old fashioned SOJ finish to the half.  

And how about this GREAT defensive line coming to play?  Mo, hello?  Overrated Leonard Williams, hello?  Still zero sacks and counting.  Kony Ealy off the street has been their best d-lineman.  The rest of this D is dog****

Try rooting for the Dolphins.  (I'm still not watching, by the way, just keeping track via fantasy).

[NJDevs4978]

The Dolphins may bungle their way into a QB at least

At this point I'd be for Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins IF this D was actually any good but they haven't lived up to billing at all.

[Daniel]

2 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

The Dolphins may bungle their way into a QB at least

At this point I'd be for Alex Smith or Kirk Cousins IF this D was actually any good but they haven't lived up to billing at all.

They won't be that bad.  They only need to win three more games to be out of the running for Rosen or Darnold.   If the Colts get that pick and idiotically want to move on from Luck, I'd trade my whole draft for him and a first rounder the following year.

[NJDevs4978]

Welp that was exactly the start to the third quarter I expected - outcoached and overmatched, just like the Raider game again....looking good was fun while it lasted.

And not that anyone really was criticizing the pick for a variety of reasons but it's a little galling seeing Jamal Adams get clownshowed by Gronk while Deshaun Watson looks like a star in the making.

Edited October 15, 2017 by NJDevs4978

[NJDevs4978]

So how much money exactly did these officials get to be in the Pats' pockets?  That 'cough' fumble and touchback was a completely nonexistent call.  This is like the Remember the Titans refs in that playoff game

How exactly is it a fumble when the ball never hit the ground?  Disgusting.  This should be a FG game now.

Edited October 15, 2017 by NJDevs4978

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

It's never over with Puppet's defense.  

[NJDevs4978]

Well congrats refs, you gave the 'home' fans what they wanted.  This game should have gone into OT at least.

And yeah I know you can't literally extrapolate the same things would have happened if the TD's on the board but they did stop the Pats twice trying to run out the clock and did score a FG on the next drive.  Not to mention that helmet to helmet on Robby Anderson that wasn't called earlier in the game.  Somewhere Jon Gruden's sighing knowing he's seen this script before.

And earth to Todd, it's okay to actually ONCE IN A FREAKING BLUE MOON show some emotion over a bad call.  Let the team know you have their back, let the league know you aren't going to take this junk lying down.  But his presser after the game was just typical Dry Todd.

Edited October 15, 2017 by NJDevs4978

[MadDog2020]

The Jets got robbed. That's one of the absolute worst calls I've ever seen in 32 years of watching the NFL.


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[Colorado Rockies 1976]

Yeah, can't blame Jets fans for being furious about this one.  Even if the call was somehow correct (the explanation is that he was just going out of bounds right when the ball was loose), there just wasn't anything conclusive enough there to overturn the call on the field.  

['7']

It was a bad call. It was far from the worst call in NFL history. Jets fans (me included) are very woe is me. It bothers me but you can't put this in the same category as Rob Lytle or Sugar Bear Hamilton or Mike Renfro or the Music City Miracle. I'm happy with the way they played. They're not a good team but are really getting the most they can out of what they have. A call like that you just have no control over. The Jets can't get down or lose focus, just keep going out there and play hard and stop saying the NFL owes us anything

The explanation was a huge reach. There really is no possible way to defend this. If the league is smart they'll just fess up and admit they made a mistake which I hope they do. Don't dig the hole deeper by trying to explain and explain.

Edited October 16, 2017 by '7'

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

It's typical Goddell NFL '7'.  "No no no you're not smart enough to understand what you were looking at, WE are."  At the very least, at this point, just dump that rule.  The on-field ruling should've stood.

['7']

13 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

It's typical Goddell NFL '7'.  "No no no you're not smart enough to understand what you were looking at, WE are."  At the very least, at this point, just dump that rule.  The on-field ruling should've stood.

Goodell right now is a hot mess with all the other things going on and now this is dumped in his lap. Of course he'll bungle it too. The NHL was just as foolishly stubborn with the crease rule (drove me nuts in 1997 with the Rags. What was that 4 disallowed goals?) this was a league that had a magic touch at one point...doesn't seem that way anymore.

I get the idea that with this, the protests, the boycotts on both sides, the Rams/Chargers attendance disasters...things may be pretty tense among the 32 owners in their ivory towers. Plus the ongoing CTE black cloud. 

Edited October 16, 2017 by '7'

[NJDevs4978]

I'm back to the fvck this team let em go 4-12 mindset after that disaster today, or at least lose the next few so we can actually see Petty one more time before we have to go out and get another freaking QB this offseason.  I don't really want to see Buster Skrine ever again and right now McCown can fvck off too.

Edited October 23, 2017 by NJDevs4978

['7']

Bowles completely sealed his fate there. At that point you tell your OC to take the air our of the ball and we're going to OT. Nope. Because we're the Jets you are just tempting fate right there, asking for an INT. Well there it was.

And another blown 14-0 lead with his defense.

[NJDevs4978]

I don't actually blame Bowles for the playcall as much as McCown for fvcking it up since they did have three timeouts and the GREAT defense couldn't stop a tortoise at that point...you're a veteran QB, don't throw the frigging ball up for grabs in your own territory.  Do one of those safe checkdowns to a RB at that point.

Edited October 23, 2017 by NJDevs4978

['7']

Yesterday was certainly a game that a not ready team that the Jets would lose, and they did. Still heartened by their competitiveness. Losing 3 in a row is never easy but they were in every game playing superior teams. McCown played really well yesterday though we are nearing the time to switch to Petty just to see what we have. Morton has really done a nice job putting an offense together that plays to his strengths.

Tthe real issue with this team is Bowles defense. And undisciplined play on occasion. That's on him. The offense has way overachieved this year. The D has actually underachieved and Bowles defense playcalling has been bad. He's constantly being schooled by opposing offensive coordinators.

I'm really starting the think John Morton will be coaching this team in 2018 or 2019. Maybe they don't want to hotshot him from 1st year OC to HC right away, but Morton will be a HC in this league

Jets will lose to Buffalo this coming Thursday in what I'm sure will be a terrible football game. But they've never had any clue how to stop or even contain Tyrod Taylor.

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

I give the Jets all the credit in the world for being as competitive as they've been...but man, the NFL sure is full of a lot of pretty goods and mediocres right now.  Been a brutal year for the NFL so far on a lot of fronts...and the ratings are reflecting that. 

Would be nice if Roger could actually admit that these Thursday night games really need to go, and that it should be the quality of the product that always comes first...but that won't happen.  Because what do us dummy fans know about anything?  Thank god ol' Raj is smart enough for everyone. 

['7']

1 hour ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I give the Jets all the credit in the world for being as competitive as they've been...but man, the NFL sure is full of a lot of pretty goods and mediocres right now.  Been a brutal year for the NFL so far on a lot of fronts...and the ratings are reflecting that. 

Would be nice if Roger could actually admit that these Thursday night games really need to go, and that it should be the quality of the product that always comes first...but that won't happen.  Because what do us dummy fans know about anything?  Thank god ol' Raj is smart enough for everyone. 

I'm starting to wonder if the Goodell extension will transform into a golden parachute. I think he's had a nightmarish run of late and I believe in the tightest of tight owners inner circles (where nothing leaks out) they have had serious discussions regarding canning him and have vetted potential replacements. Thing is are there enough of them to move the needle since Goodell still has his loyalists.

 The NFL has failed in so many aspects of late, from the Charges boondoggle, Thursday night disasters, overall displeasure with UK games, the anthem stuff has gotten so out of control and ugly on many levels. The optics are bad with so many empty seats and ratings are falling. For the first time in my life the league looks like it's flailing and not unified. They won't tolerate this for long. I would like Goodell to go but I think he's going to get a chance to dig himself out of this mess unfortunately. If things still look like this next year though I think he'll be gone. I think he'll get about 12 months to get this train back on the tracks.

Edited October 30, 2017 by '7'

[Colorado Rockies 1976]

18 minutes ago, '7' said:

I'm starting to wonder if the Goodell extension will transform into a golden parachute. I think he's had a nightmarish run of late and I believe in the tightest of tight owners inner circles (where nothing leaks out) they have had serious discussions regarding canning him and have vetted potential replacements. Thing is are there enough of them to move the needle since Goodell still has his loyalists.

 The NFL has failed in so many aspects of late, from the Charges boondoggle, Thursday night disasters, overall displeasure with UK games, the anthem stuff has gotten so out of control and ugly on many levels. The optics are bad with so many empty seats and ratings are falling. For the first time in my life the league looks like it's flailing and not unified. They won't tolerate this for long. I would like Goodell to go but I think he's going to get a chance to dig himself out of this mess unfortunately. If things still look like this next year though I think he'll be gone.

And therein lies the issue...for years, despite people not liking Goodell, there was a lot of "Well, the NFL is successful, which is the idea"...even though Goodell often came off (somewhat paradoxically) as an arrogant buffoon, the league seeming to flourish almost in spite of him made it hard for the owners to replace him.

But now there's this:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/10/30/nfl-owners-jerry-jones-unhappy-with-roger-goodell-commissioner/

It is funny, how one-dimensional these owners can be...they didn't seem to care what Goodell said or did, until the ratings started to drop and the seats stopped being almost automatically filled...that's all it took.  They're sure quick to bail on him now.   

[Muevelos]

Who drafts two safties in the first 2 rounds?  No one.  But the Jets  did and it looks like a genius move now. 

[Daniel]

On 10/30/2017 at 1:12 PM, '7' said:

I'm starting to wonder if the Goodell extension will transform into a golden parachute. I think he's had a nightmarish run of late and I believe in the tightest of tight owners inner circles (where nothing leaks out) they have had serious discussions regarding canning him and have vetted potential replacements. Thing is are there enough of them to move the needle since Goodell still has his loyalists.

 The NFL has failed in so many aspects of late, from the Charges boondoggle, Thursday night disasters, overall displeasure with UK games, the anthem stuff has gotten so out of control and ugly on many levels. The optics are bad with so many empty seats and ratings are falling. For the first time in my life the league looks like it's flailing and not unified. They won't tolerate this for long. I would like Goodell to go but I think he's going to get a chance to dig himself out of this mess unfortunately. If things still look like this next year though I think he'll be gone. I think he'll get about 12 months to get this train back on the tracks.

One theory I’ve heard is that it’s the sudden drop in offensive play, especially a drop in touchdowns from running backs, especially star running backs.  Basically, the recent popularity in the NFL is due to fantasy football, and it’s been a pretty dull season for that.

['7']

58 minutes ago, CarterforPresident said:

Who drafts two safties in the first 2 rounds?  No one.  But the Jets  did and it looks like a genius move now. 

It is not remotely genious. These guys are not Ed Reed and not Ed Reed 2.0. I think they'll be good, they're not earth shakers. They're not going to anchor some incredible secondary for a decade

[Muevelos]

6 minutes ago, '7' said:

It is not remotely genious. These guys are not Ed Reed and not Ed Reed 2.0. I think they'll be good, they're not earth shakers. They're not going to anchor some incredible secondary for a decade

Still,  good picks.  Some decent talent on the defense for the team. 

[NJDevs4978]

I've never been so blase about a quasi-meaningful Jets win.  Assuming we don't somehow **** this one up, now we're in the dreaded no-man's land where we have to play McCown pretty much the rest of the year.  Pretty much all my enthusiasm in terms of wins and losses for this season got sapped in the Miami disaster, I was hoping to see Petty the last few weeks.  But I guess some of the younger guys are playing well so there's that I suppose.

Even Fireman Ed came out of retirement

Edited November 3, 2017 by NJDevs4978