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3 hours ago, DevsMan84 said:

Delete your account

Feel better after the online chat? You feeling positive and optimistic?

BTW my reference to "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" had absolutely NOTHING to do with pride night. 

I was merely trying to satirize the futility. 

Peace

 

 

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36 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

The comments about Pride Night and the rainbow-taped warmup used sticks on the NJ Devils official Facebook page is enough to want to nuke our fanbase.  I think you can imagine the kind of comments that were in there.

We are in accord on that. There is enough hate in this world. 

Peace my friend 

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36 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said:

I'm going to just.. pretend.. that they were welcoming, encouraging, and very progressive.

It's Facebook and Twitter - I never read the comments ever in those sections because they're two steps even below message boards when it comes to...being human.  I'm sure there'd be the same vile, senseless comments on any other team's Facebook and Twitter.  I don't take it as an indictment of the fanbase neccesarily though, since like I said you'd see that anywhere on social media unfortunately.

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11 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

It's Facebook and Twitter - I never read the comments ever in those sections because they're two steps even below message boards when it comes to...being human.  I'm sure there'd be the same vile, senseless comments on any other team's Facebook and Twitter.  I don't take it as an indictment of the fanbase neccesarily though, since like I said you'd see that anywhere on social media unfortunately.

so few internets, so many idiots.

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18 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

It's Facebook and Twitter - I never read the comments ever in those sections because they're two steps even below message boards when it comes to...being human.  I'm sure there'd be the same vile, senseless comments on any other team's Facebook and Twitter.  I don't take it as an indictment of the fanbase neccesarily though, since like I said you'd see that anywhere on social media unfortunately.

It's funny that people use FB and Twitter to be gigantic sh!tbags when typically you have your real name and information tied to it. More so FB than Twitter but still. With message boards, reddit, etc, there is more anonymity but still seems like this worst people gravitate towards talking on there.

I use Twitter a lot for news and updates but I can't stand talking to people on there. I gave up trying to carry on conversations with most fans on there a while ago.

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4 hours ago, SMantzas said:

I'm sure Philly got at least a 2nd for Streit.

LMAO they took Filppula's contract and got a 4th and conditional 7th. Yzerman is a genius. Best current GM. Freed up all tons of space for his big RFA's Johnson, Drouin, Palat. He unloaded Bishop and got a D prospect. And got a 2nd round pick for Boyle. I'm amazed how good he is at making deals.

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4 hours ago, Weekes Head said:

The Golden Knights are also officially an NHL team now. Pretty weird that there's 31 teams in the league. Still don't like the name, logo, colors....I'm sure they'll be an overall annoying team in time.

That's all they could talk about on NHL Network. All cause this deadline was a dud. I don't care about the Golden Knights. What's so golden about a knight anyway? And what is that logo supposed to be?

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3 hours ago, '7' said:

Trade deadline really needs to be moved back to mid March again. It's boring now and there is much less activity with this amount of season left. You get more bubble teams who are not sure if they're in or out and they end up standing pat.

Take away the 3-point game and that is no longer an issue. They won't. They love parity.

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58 minutes ago, Weekes Head said:

I had noticed on the instagram the comments were getting so vile that the Devils were finally starting to delete them. Someone even made a comment about it being ridiculous that we " had a Pride Night to celebrate the gays but what we really should do is cater to the fan base that we truly have which is white and have a white pride night." They went on with it for a few posts too. It was pretty disgusting. 

As a member of the LGBTQ community, it was pretty sad to see the trash these people posted. I'm glad I went to the game because all the fans were fantastic and the team did a great job with the night. Only wish the game poster had a connection to the night but that's okay. Well, I also wish the team won too. 

Alas, I digress....

Some idiots will say anything. You're one of the most popular and respected people on here RD. I <3 you.

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31 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

It's Facebook and Twitter - I never read the comments ever in those sections because they're two steps even below message boards when it comes to...being human.  I'm sure there'd be the same vile, senseless comments on any other team's Facebook and Twitter.  I don't take it as an indictment of the fanbase neccesarily though, since like I said you'd see that anywhere on social media unfortunately.

It's lower than dirt. I don't know how people can look at themselves in the mirror every day. Worse than children.

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Only our fan base would flip out this much over this kind of trade deadline. We got a low pick for a guy we got for free in Parenteau, and yeah, Prout fvcking blows, but he might be a decent barter chip at the expansion draft. We can move him to a team that loses a defenseman in the Draft or we can move him to a team that needs a guy to throw in, if you have an extra nobody under contract that might become a decent currency to get a free 4th or 3rd at the expansion draft so the other team can avoid getting penalized.

People gotta breathe and relax, trust the process, getting a 4th or 5th for Quincey isn't going to change this team overnight.

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I hope that Shero and company at least considered making an offer for Lazar.  Know he's been a disappointment, but it's probably too early to call him a bust.  I mean he's a better bet than anyone we're going to take in the second round.

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Just now, Daniel said:

I hope that Shero and company at least considered making an offer for Lazar.  Know he's been a disappointment, but it's probably too early to call him a bust.  I mean he's a better bet than anyone we're going to take in the second round.

I've honestly never been a Lazar fan, even in his draft year I only saw him as a future 3rd liner. Glad we steered clear.

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4 minutes ago, Daniel said:

I hope that Shero and company at least considered making an offer for Lazar.  Know he's been a disappointment, but it's probably too early to call him a bust.  I mean he's a better bet than anyone we're going to take in the second round.

Gotta feel like Lazar was massively overpaid for. I think we've already dealt with enough of his types on this roster in the past five years.

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1 hour ago, Weekes Head said:

I had noticed on the instagram the comments were getting so vile that the Devils were finally starting to delete them. Someone even made a comment about it being ridiculous that we " had a Pride Night to celebrate the gays but what we really should do is cater to the fan base that we truly have which is white and have a white pride night." They went on with it for a few posts too. It was pretty disgusting. 

As a member of the LGBTQ community, it was pretty sad to see the trash these people posted. I'm glad I went to the game because all the fans were fantastic and the team did a great job with the night. Only wish the game poster had a connection to the night but that's okay. Well, I also wish the team won too. 

Alas, I digress....

This has to be a joke. How absolutely disgusting of our fans. 

I'm relatively religious, but I seriously cannot believe the hatred and bigotry that still exists. "God loves all his children" is consistently forgotten in many circles.

anyway, back on topic -- crappy trade deadline, crappy internet fans, but at least I have you guys. Love you crazy motherfvckers, NJDevs. 

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4 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

10 picks coming in the 2017 draft:

2017:  (1) 1st, (2) 2nds (one from Boston), (2) 3rds (one from Colorado, one from SJ), (2) 4ths (one from Nashville), (1) 5th, (2) 6th (one from Nashville)

2018:  (1) 1st, (2) 2nds (one from Florida), (2) 3rds (one from Toronto), (1) 4th, (1) 5th, (1) 6th, (1) 7th

Get the feeling Shero will trade a 2nd, 3rd, and 6th (or something close to that) in the offseason for a guy who should be able to help the Devils right away in 2017-18.  Palmeiri Part 2

this is what I want to happen. I just think drafting 10 picks is too many (with 9 the following year) and we have so many holes. I knew it wasn't likely but my hope for today was cashing in a couple of decent picks for a good player under contract. Prout wasn't the roster guy I had in mind. Shero has plenty of draft capital so hopefully he can get a good player at the draft when draft picks are highly valued.

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7 minutes ago, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said:

this is what I want to happen. I just think drafting 10 picks is too many (with 9 the following year) and we have so many holes. I knew it wasn't likely but my hope for today was cashing in a couple of decent picks for a good player under contract. Prout wasn't the roster guy I had in mind. Shero has plenty of draft capital so hopefully he can get a good player at the draft when draft picks are highly valued.

Agreed, but isn't the draft supposed to be a relatively weak one?  It's all about the timing if that is indeed the case those picks won't go as far as we would like,

Somebody who spends more time assessing the draft could probably comment in a more meaningful way. 

 

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2 hours ago, Derek21 said:

LMAO they took Filppula's contract and got a 4th and conditional 7th. Yzerman is a genius. Best current GM. Freed up all tons of space for his big RFA's Johnson, Drouin, Palat. He unloaded Bishop and got a D prospect. And got a 2nd round pick for Boyle. I'm amazed how good he is at making deals.

Usually I am skeptical of making former star players GMs and suspect they haven't earned the job from an off ice business perspective. I've seen a lot of teams really struggle, like in Colorado handing the GM job to Sakic, or the Oilers with Lowe, Gretzky sucked as an executive. I was actually used to be concerned that the Devils would hand the GM and coaching jobs to guys from the glory years when Lou was going to leave. But so far Yzerman has been an exception (like Elway has been for the Broncos).

They are having a down year but I agree Yzerman has done an impressive job as GM so far.  

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2 hours ago, Derek21 said:

Some idiots will say anything. You're one of the most popular and respected people on here RD. I <3 you.

Bingo.

 

Regarding trades: stockpiling picks. Ain't the worst approach for this organization... I just hope Shero isn't approaching this like some approach fantasy sports: trying to swap multiple assets for a single better asset. "Hey, I really want to get one good player, and so I'm going to trade you two mediocre players instead... see, we both win! You get depth, I get the better overall player!" Only works with really desperate GMs who can't see the writing on the wall.

 

And dammit, I want to see this team be consistently competitive next season. If they could resemble the team that kicked off this season, I would be thrilled: "fast, attacking, supportive" regardless of the score, and a team that responded well to adversity, giving constant hustle.

 

I'll slip back into the shadows now, a-thank ya.

 

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2 hours ago, Daniel said:

I hope that Shero and company at least considered making an offer for Lazar.  Know he's been a disappointment, but it's probably too early to call him a bust.  I mean he's a better bet than anyone we're going to take in the second round.

Lazar would have been an interesting acquisition. I know he has had a bad year (had mono) and hasn't done a lot so far but he is young and I feel he will develop into a good player.

That said, I don't think he is the right fit for us. If we are giving up a relatively high pick or picks I would like to do it at the draft and spend it on a more proven commodity that is further along and can fill a hole in the lineup and we have a ton of cap to take on a more proven player.

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55 minutes ago, smelly said:

he really seems to overrate Prout.

The Rangers overpaid for Smith, he got that much right.

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Lazar would've been such a terrible acquisition.  It's not that the guy can't be a good player, it's just, why are we doing this?  He's scored at a 4th line rate the last two years.   Plus he has to be protected in expansion.  The Devils can certainly get people with higher upside for a 2nd round pick.

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FWIW, the beat writer for CBJ, Aaron Portzline spoke pretty highly of Prout in his farewell tweets. Says he can absolutely be a #5 or #6 defenseman when he has the confidence. One could say that a beat writer doesn't know anything, or perhaps is biased towards the players they cover, but I feel like most Devils beat writers have been fair in their coverage of guys on the roster. Whatever the case, he's probably only a stopgap / expansion fodder and if he turns into something better than so be it.

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