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I am so done with the Caps.

They play a huge game 5 and game 6 and then turn around and lay ANOTHER egg in a critical game 7.

With Ovi leading the way in the choking.

It has to beyond miserable to be a Caps fan right now. And that is why you heard the booing. I can't blame them.

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I am so done with the Caps. They play a huge game 5 and game 6 and then turn around and lay ANOTHER egg in a critical game 7. With Ovi leading the way in the choking.

It has to beyond miserable to be a Caps fan right now. And that is why you heard the booing. I can't blame them.

 

 

Those people are within their rights to burn down the fvcking building if they want at this point. It's beyond ridiculous that they haven't even made an ECF appearance in the Ovechkin era. It's unfathomable with the amount of talent that team has and has had over the years.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Those people are within their rights to burn down the fvcking building if they want at this point. It's beyond ridiculous that they haven't even made an ECF appearance in the Ovechkin era. It's unfathomable with the amount of talent that team has and has had over the years.

Agreed...though the only time I'd boo at the end of the season is when they give a clear lack of effort.  I booed at the end of 2010 against the Flyers and two years ago at Fan Appreciation Night when we got clowned by the Rangers at the end of a total uninspired season.  Those are the only two times I booed the team away for the season.  Probably should have this year too but apathy more than set in by that point.

Cap fans had every right to boo that garbage effort.

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15 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said:

Agreed...though the only time I'd boo at the end of the season is when they give a clear lack of effort.  I booed at the end of 2010 against the Flyers and two years ago at Fan Appreciation Night when we got clowned by the Rangers at the end of a total uninspired season.  Those are the only two times I booed the team away for the season.  Probably should have this year too but apathy more than set in by that point.

Cap fans had every right to boo that garbage effort.

That has to be the final straw for that core.

I mean you can't get rid of everybody but you need big changes. This team is too psychologically damaged at this point to ever win.

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Just now, Nicomo said:

It wasn't a garbage effort. The Caps actually dominated parts of the game. They just couldn't beat Fleury. 

And they couldn't beat Halak, Lundqvist, Biron, Lundvist, Roloson, Fleury, Fleury, Murray, Fleury again. 2-0 leads, 3-1 leads, game 7 disasters, OT losses.

It's more than just hard luck and coincidental at this point. 

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7 minutes ago, '7' said:

And they couldn't beat Halak, Lundqvist, Biron, Lundvist, Roloson, Fleury, Fleury, Murray, Fleury again. 2-0 leads, 3-1 leads, game 7 disasters, OT losses.

It's more than just hard luck and coincidental at this point. 

Don't want to sound like a stat boy, but really the thing the Caps should do is keep going with what they have, subject to cap restrictions, etc. From a team building standpoint, you can only build to win as many games as possible, which the Caps have done in spades for the past couple of years.  Maybe you can guess on the right coach at the right time to help you win in the playoffs, but it's still just guess work.  Larry Robinson is a case in point.  Definitely what was needed in 2000, but other times as a head coach he could be downright flaky.  

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I'm torn over this ECF. Really like this Ottawa team, from the way they play to the guys on the roster. Love Karlsson, and they've got a couple Jersey connections. I like Guy Boucher a lot too. At the same time, there are a lot of things I like about Pittsburgh, and in this age of extreme parity, I like seeing teams have consistent success. If they'd repeat, there would have been only 4 winners in the last 9 seasons. And also fvck Canada. But if any Canadian city had to win it, I'd be cool with Ottawa over the other 6.

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

It wasn't a garbage effort. The Caps actually dominated parts of the game. They just couldn't beat Fleury. 

I don't think it was a garbage effort either but something was a bit off tonight. This team is some warped version of Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hide when it comes to regular season vs playoffs. They can dominate the hell out of you or completely disappear and get manhandled by the opposition. I feel like tonight they tried desperately to get into domination mode but something didn't fully click and they just couldn't get to that point. I thought they did play well enough and they did throw everything they could at Fleury but 1) the Pens actually showed up 100% 2) Fleury rebounded and had a helluva game and most importantly, 3) the Caps just couldn't get their passes to be crisp enough or their chances to be quality enough. Something was off with them tonight. I feel bad for Washington fans. They must be beyond livid. Still, it just feels wrong to boo them off the ice. Feels taboo or something, lol.

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And Edmonton has been bounced. Goodnight, Adam Larsson. Killer effort, but the Quackers prevailed. Hats off to McDavid and the Oilers for putting up helluva fight. They'll be sticking around for a while. Alas, I think Hallsy will sleep a little more comfortably tonight knowing his former team is no longer in the hunt for the Cup while he's playing golf in the Garden State. 

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Sucks Edmonton didn't win. 

Zero interest out west. Nashville (NO WAY) and Anaheim. Nobody cares

You'd figure Pitt steamrolls Ottawa but the Pens did not look all that impressive the past 3 games vs. Washington. Even last nights win. A nice play for the first goal. Total fluke 2nd goal. Fleury was spectacular. Sens probably push this to 6 and lose

Really not into any of the potential finals scenario. It's going to be a low rated final. 

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Slava is completely right whether Caps fans hate it or not.

I have felt this for some time now, but last night sealed it for me; Ovechkin is a loser.  A complete and utter primadonna perennial loser.  The only playoff team trophy he has won since he was drafted was the Gagarin Cup in 2013, and that was the lockout season where he left halfway through to come back to the NHL.

For years I have seen the same argument/hypothetical with fans since 2005; if you were GM and had a choice to build a Cup team from scratch, would you go with Ovi or Sidney?  The answer should now be clear to even the biggest Caps fanboy that it is Crosby.

I wonder if Dionne, Gartner and the other players of the like who were HOF'ers but never won a Cup in their careers are now snickering at the fact that Ovechkin will now outshine them all for that dubious honor.  It is sure looking that way.

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48 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

Slava is completely right whether Caps fans hate it or not.

I have felt this for some time now, but last night sealed it for me; Ovechkin is a loser.  A complete and utter primadonna perennial loser.  The only playoff team trophy he has won since he was drafted was the Gagarin Cup in 2013, and that was the lockout season where he left halfway through to come back to the NHL.

For years I have seen the same argument/hypothetical with fans since 2005; if you were GM and had a choice to build a Cup team from scratch, would you go with Ovi or Sidney?  The answer should now be clear to even the biggest Caps fanboy that it is Crosby.

I wonder if Dionne, Gartner and the other players of the like who were HOF'ers but never won a Cup in their careers are now snickering at the fact that Ovechkin will now outshine them all for that dubious honor.  It is sure looking that way.

I don't know anyone has ever doubted that Crosby has always been better than Ovechkin, except maybe when there were questions that Crosby could ever be the same player again after his concussions.  But even then, does Crosby have two Cups if Malkin -- maybe a top five or ten forward in the league -- is not on the Penguins, or if the Penguins don't get good goaltending at the right time?

It's a hard explanation to make to your fanbase, but all the front office can do is build a team that wins as many games as possible, which Ovechkin has proven to be able to do.  If another team wants to give you a kings ransom for him, that's fine.  But claiming, in effect, that there's addition by subtraction in getting rid of him is just silly.

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45 minutes ago, Daniel said:

I don't know anyone has ever doubted that Crosby has always been better than Ovechkin, except maybe when there were questions that Crosby could ever be the same player again after his concussions.  But even then, does Crosby have two Cups if Malkin -- maybe a top five or ten forward in the league -- is not on the Penguins, or if the Penguins don't get good goaltending at the right time?

It's a hard explanation to make to your fanbase, but all the front office can do is build a team that wins as many games as possible, which Ovechkin has proven to be able to do.  If another team wants to give you a kings ransom for him, that's fine.  But claiming, in effect, that there's addition by subtraction in getting rid of him is just silly.

The Malkin comparison only works if Ovechkin was working pretty much by himself.  He's not.  He has had Backstrom, Oshie, Kuznetsov, Johanssen, Semin, and others over the years and still has not yet able to get out of the second round.

Maybe it isn't so silly to have addition by subtraction when Kolzig, Oates and Peter fvcking Bondra has taken your team closer to the promise land than Ovechkin, Backstrom and Holtby.

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2 hours ago, '7' said:

Sucks Edmonton didn't win. 

Zero interest out west. Nashville (NO WAY) and Anaheim. Nobody cares

You'd figure Pitt steamrolls Ottawa but the Pens did not look all that impressive the past 3 games vs. Washington. Even last nights win. A nice play for the first goal. Total fluke 2nd goal. Fleury was spectacular. Sens probably push this to 6 and lose

Really not into any of the potential finals scenario. It's going to be a low rated final. 

Heard the same story a few weeks ago about the Sens. The smart money is on Pittsburgh, but just like I said before the Rangers series, expect Ottawa to frustrate the hell out of them through 6 or 7, even if they don't take the series. Pittsburgh is better suited to deal with the trap you'd imagine, but how equipped are they to deal with Karlsson? Fleury and Anderson have both been really bad and really good, it'll likely come down to them. The extra day to rest is going to be huge for the Sens. I don't know, I don't want to say it's a toss up, but I find it hard to imagine anyone is getting steamrolled.

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21 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said:

The Malkin comparison only works if Ovechkin was working pretty much by himself.  He's not.  He has had Backstrom, Oshie, Kuznetsov, Johanssen, Semin, and others over the years and still has not yet able to get out of the second round.

Maybe it isn't so silly to have addition by subtraction when Kolzig, Oates and Peter fvcking Bondra has taken your team closer to the promise land than Ovechkin, Backstrom and Holtby.

Bondra was one of the most underrated pure goal scorers ever. Dead puck era no less. 

That 1998 Capitals team was thin on secondary scoring throughout the season but that stepped up in the postseason. And Kolzig became a brick wall. That's all it took.

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Some teams just find a way to lose, year after year.  Washington and St. Louis are right at the top of that list.  At least the Caps made it interesting in their annual second round elimination by forcing a game 7, but to get shut out at home after coming back from 3-1 down to force the decisive game is embarrassing. 

And everything that Slava ranted about seems dead on to me.  Ovi is all about Ovi, and the Caps owner and management have let it be that way, and even have encouraged it, from the beginning.  There is no accountability there, and that team suffers because of it.  It is basically the exact opposite of everything the Devils were under Lou.

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