MadDog2020 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/858769097500364800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fhfboards.hockeysfuture.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2221303%26page%3D10Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/858769097500364800?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fhfboards.hockeysfuture.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2221303%26page%3D10 Reading the comments, I wasn't aware we were unable to dress a full team because of the Kovy signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Reading the comments, I wasn't aware we were unable to dress a full team because of the Kovy signing. Yeah that dude is a little misinformed, although there were like two or three games right in the beginning of that first season after he signed the contract where we had to reduce the game roster for cap reasons- I don't remember all the particulars, but it wasn't nearly as big a deal as that guy was making it out to be. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Reading the comments, I wasn't aware we were unable to dress a full team because of the Kovy signing. They were right up against the cap and had a couple of early injuries and a suspension. I think they wound up dressing like fifteen skaters in one game against the Pens. Edited April 30, 2017 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Just now, NJDevs4978 said: They were right up against the cap and had a couple of early injuries and a suspension. I think they wound up dressing like fifteen skaters in one game against the Pens. There's other precedent for it. Think the Penguins or maybe the Bruins had to do it at one point. Really wasn't a big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, Daniel said: There's other precedent for it. Think the Penguins or maybe the Bruins had to do it at one point. Really wasn't a big deal. Well it didn't exactly help, cause we got off to a lousy start and never recovered until Lemaire came back. That whole summer there was upheaval over who was gonna go, and it wound up being nobody cause Langenbrunner wouldn't waive his NTC and they finally had to wait for divine intervention to strike when Rolston had his hernia or whatever just to get under the cap. But they still couldn't make any additions to the roster cause they were that up against the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/858785019585757186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/858785019585757186 'Stay in NYC' lmfao. If that's what it sounds like, I mean... That's rich as fvck. As if. [emoji23]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) 55 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: 'Stay in NYC' lmfao. If that's what it sounds like, I mean... That's rich as fvck. As if. Uhh, yeah ok. Not a chance, unless "stay in NYC" includes the Devils. We're not trading him to the Rangers or Islanders. Florida, maybe...can we have Eckblad? Edited April 30, 2017 by mfitz804 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 What realistically do you think the Devils can get for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 A second and a prospect, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokar Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: A second and a prospect, maybe. How about Alex Galchenyuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 How about Alex Galchenyuk That's a no-brainier, I'd take Galchenyuk and run. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, sokar said: How about Alex Galchenyuk Where do I sign? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitico12 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 2 hours ago, fsu1852 said: https://mobile.twitter.com/SlavaMalamud/status/858785019585757186 I'm not sure who this Slava Malmud is, but how does he know about Kovy's intentions? Sign and trade doesn't yield much for the Devils. Teams will know that Kovy won't play for the Devils, so they will low-ball us. Take it or leave it offers. Look, if I'm Ray Shero, I'm talking with Kovy to gauge his interest in playing in Newark. He would instantly give the Devils credibility up front, and is a world-class talent. He would attract other world class talent to join the Devils as well. I think Kovy and a Top 4 D-Man can bring the Devils to the playoffs next year. Kovy over Parise all day when it comes to pure talent. Attitude is a whole other story, but we don't buy tickets for attitude. (See Odell Beckham Jr.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Mitico12 said: I'm not sure who this Slava Malmud is, but how does he know about Kovy's intentions? Sign and trade doesn't yield much for the Devils. Teams will know that Kovy won't play for the Devils, so they will low-ball us. Take it or leave it offers. Look, if I'm Ray Shero, I'm talking with Kovy to gauge his interest in playing in Newark. He would instantly give the Devils credibility up front, and is a world-class talent. He would attract other world class talent to join the Devils as well. I think Kovy and a Top 4 D-Man can bring the Devils to the playoffs next year. Kovy over Parise all day when it comes to pure talent. Attitude is a whole other story, but we don't buy tickets for attitude. (See Odell Beckham Jr.) You're saying people don't buy tickets to see OBJ? You're lost and what does that have anything to do with Devils Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Martyisth3b3st said: I think his point is that there's no correlation between attitude and ticket sales. Skill is skill, and people pay to watch that If that's what he meant then I misunderstood. Edited May 1, 2017 by fsu1852 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Sure Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Mitico12 said: I'm not sure who this Slava Malmud is, but how does he know about Kovy's intentions? I agree. He doesn't say that he spoke to anyone, and bringing up the Rangers or isles is just him projecting with no real connections to anyone involved in the situation being referenced. I swear some of these hockey writers are can be a bunch of washerwomen with talk, sometimes. I think it's because this sport has killed off it's offseason, in relation to the other sports. Not much hockey trades or UFA signings of significance as the other sports, so when something might go down these guys go really overboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Sure Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Chris Ryan of the Ledger has this piece with quotes right from Shero: http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2017/05/next_step_for_devils_ray_shero_ilya_kovalchuk.html#incart_river_index Shero says anything with him that may happen won't be till after July 1st or after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I still think you guys are underestimating his value as a sign-and-trade. Assuming Kovalchuk is receptive to go anywhere (which, if he returns this year, he needs to be) then the bidding war will be very real. Especially considering we can retain half his salary. Teams will literally jump at the chance to add a top-6 elite scoring winger on a bargain contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 I keep going back to if he is elite, and if he's willing, why not keep him here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, Devilsfan118 said: I still think you guys are underestimating his value as a sign-and-trade. Assuming Kovalchuk is receptive to go anywhere (which, if he returns this year, he needs to be) then the bidding war will be very real. Especially considering we can retain half his salary. Teams will literally jump at the chance to add a top-6 elite scoring winger on a bargain contract. I agree. If we are really allowed to sign him to a contract and then turn around and flip him at 50% retained, that's going to be a valuable asset to a lot of teams. Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing the NHL will let it be that easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 38 minutes ago, Lateralous said: I agree. If we are really allowed to sign him to a contract and then turn around and flip him at 50% retained, that's going to be a valuable asset to a lot of teams. Unfortunately, I have a hard time believing the NHL will let it be that easy. I mean, what're they gonna do? Fine us a couple million bucks and dock us a few picks? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Someone mentioned this somewhere else but I think the best thing would be a trade with a conditional pick. Devils get a 2018 2nd if that team misses the playoffs, they get a 3rd if Kovalchuk is traded, and they get a 1st if that team makes the playoffs and Kovalchuk plays 40+ games (otherwise they just get a 2nd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Another thing I think we've been missing here, which I've seen discussed elsewhere, is that Kovy would want to get back in now so as to avoid having to sign a 35+ contract, which teams will be less indulgent with. If true, it's more leverage for Shero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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