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personally I would prefer us to keep kovy here, I think he would make a huge impact on this team and it would down right help the devils in general. People would be buying tickets to see him play, I'm not sure why they wouldn't want to keep him. However if he is traded I think he should be packaged with a prospect or picks to net us a player in return that is going to make an instant impact. Shero knows what he is doing, he's not going to sell him for nothing, as he already stated the trade would need to make sense for the devils. Either way this off season should be pretty exciting.

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On 5/13/2017 at 10:32 AM, thecoffeecake said:

They absolutely do not need an impact player right now. They need pieces that will come together and form the  core of the next competitive team. Kovy won't be that, and we'll waste an asset keeping him here any longer than passed this trade deadline.

No need for an impact player right now?  Hmmm, I guess Shero didn't get your memo last summer when he sent Lars off to EDM for Taylor Hall? 

If your argument is we don't need an impact player right now, then I guess Shero should package Kovy with Schneider to get some "future prospects" in return?

Schneider's window is NOW.  He is not getting younger.  He is an elite goaltender that needs positive team stimulus to win us a championship (along with the right pieces).

I'm not butt hurt by Kovalchuk bolting to Russia.  We're not in the sports business.  We don't know what transpired behind the scenes, we don't know anything.  Lot's of us treat sports as if it is the same as "building a family" and attach emotion to it.  NEWSFLASH:  Those days are long gone.

Sports is a business.  So, if Kovy feels wanted and feels that it fits his personal profile, then he will accept and play here.  If Shero feels Kovy can contribute - both on the ice and off the ice, and he comes at a decent price, bye gones are bye gones, and he signs him.

Personally, I think Kovy is a fantastic player.  Love the excitement he brings to the ice.  He is a competitor and can instantly bring credibility back to our hockey team.  You sign Kovy and a top 4 defenseman this offseason and the Devils instantly make a push for the playoffs.  Book it.

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5 hours ago, Mitico12 said:

No need for an impact player right now?  Hmmm, I guess Shero didn't get your memo last summer when he sent Lars off to EDM for Taylor Hall? 

If your argument is we don't need an impact player right now, then I guess Shero should package Kovy with Schneider to get some "future prospects" in return?

Schneider's window is NOW.  He is not getting younger.  He is an elite goaltender that needs positive team stimulus to win us a championship (along with the right pieces).

I'm not butt hurt by Kovalchuk bolting to Russia.  We're not in the sports business.  We don't know what transpired behind the scenes, we don't know anything.  Lot's of us treat sports as if it is the same as "building a family" and attach emotion to it.  NEWSFLASH:  Those days are long gone.

Sports is a business.  So, if Kovy feels wanted and feels that it fits his personal profile, then he will accept and play here.  If Shero feels Kovy can contribute - both on the ice and off the ice, and he comes at a decent price, bye gones are bye gones, and he signs him.

Personally, I think Kovy is a fantastic player.  Love the excitement he brings to the ice.  He is a competitor and can instantly bring credibility back to our hockey team.  You sign Kovy and a top 4 defenseman this offseason and the Devils instantly make a push for the playoffs.  Book it.

Schneider's window is now, so why doesn't Shero strap on his Stanley Cup helmet, squeeze into his Stanley Cup cannon, and fire off into Stanley Cup land where Stanley Cups grow on cuppies.

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On 5/13/2017 at 10:49 AM, MadDog2020 said:

I can't wait until this schmuck is traded on July 1 so the possibility of him wearing a Devils jersey ever again is finally 0.... Maybe then everyone who still wants him on the Devils can finally get it through their heads once and for all that it's never gonna happen.

 

 

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I agree.  I don't care if he plays with us or with another team next season, I just want this to be over with already.  We seem to go on this merry-go-round every offseason and it whips the fanbase into a frenzy over largely nothing.  I would give it at best a 10% chance we will see him in a Devils uniform ever again but I still see plenty pencil him in into our top 6 for next season (not as much here as other places).  I am just tired of it.

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I honestly see there being a 0% chance he's a Devil next year.  He wants to play for a contender, and we're not even close to that yet.

He either agrees to terms with a team, and Shero gets something he likes in return, or he stays in Russia until next year and tries the process again next summer.

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I don't know what the chances are of McLeod joining the big club this coming season, or if a guy like Nolan or Hirscheier (butchered that badly, I'm sure) will make the team right out of the game either, BUT, if they do, and if Kovy also somewhat miraculously joins the team too...with Zacha having another year under his belt, Henrique and Palmieri performing at a reasonably high level again, and Hall finding some consistency after having some good linemates for a change, do you think we're still really that far away from contending?  

I mean this whole Kovalchuk discussion is by no means working me into a frenzy like someone else had mentioned earlier.  I actually am on the side that thinks it's more likely that he WON'T play for us than he actually will, but there's always that chance, so in the interest of discussion, if he actually does play for us, I think it's safe to say he's in our top 6, and that we'd actually be somewhat of a contender.  Not saying we'd make a deep run into the post-season or anything like that, but that it's reasonable to consider that we could.  

I dunno, maybe I'm overrating our guys, or perhaps it's the mere idea of us being good again and contending for a cup that is creating its own fantasy in my head, but either way, when I look at the possibility of us icing these two forwards, I get a little excited.  To me, it seems like a fairly deep team.

Hall - Henrique - Palmieri

Patrick - Zajac - Kovalchuk 

Cammalleri - Zacha - Noesen

? - Coleman - Bennett 

Sure the D needs some work still, but if we land Shattenkirk, that makes them significantly better overnight. 

Take Kovalchuk away from that equation and I don't think it drastically alters it all that much, but point being, with him in there, I think that's a lineup not all that far removed from doing some surprise damage in a playoff battle.

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15 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Hall - Henrique - Palmieri

Patrick - Zajac - Kovalchuk 

Cammalleri - Zacha - Noesen

? - Coleman - Bennett

? = Miles (James Franco) Wood? If so, then this is good. Would like someone centering that isn't Coleman though, maybe Quinville?

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4 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

? = Miles (James Franco) Wood? If so, then this is good. Would like someone centering that isn't Coleman though, maybe Quinville?

Damn, can't believe I forgot him.  Yeah, definitely Wood there.  That's actually perfect for that 4th line.   And I agree with you, I'd rather see Quennville and/or Blandisi, over both Coleman and Bennett, but I put both of them in just because they have more experience, and I feel like that's who the coaching staff will give the first nod to over those other guys, even though I think it's a mistake and the other two have way more potential, and could even start making an impact at the present time.  

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6 hours ago, NJDevils1214 said:

? = Miles (James Franco) Wood? If so, then this is good. Would like someone centering that isn't Coleman though, maybe Quinville?

Ha Ha. Every time they show Woods picture during a game I'm thinking damn, it's James Franco!

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3 hours ago, pattyelias said:

I'd trade kovalchuk to the rags for Brady Skjei and a 1st.   

I'll do you one better, forget the pick, I'd trade Kovy to the Rags for Brady Skjei straight up.

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7 hours ago, Since1982-83 said:

Just read that he wants to play with the Rangers (what a surprise!).

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2017/05/islanders-buchberger-kovalchuk.html

That was a previous rumour that got debunked several weeks ago.

That website took their time in rehashing it. 

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24 minutes ago, caron14 said:

Rumor here in MTL... Galchenyuk and Beaulieu are done with the Habs... Apparently, Bergevin will trade both this summer and they are link to be in the Kovalchuk derby... Maybe we will deal with the Habs?

gladly. kovy + 2nd for galchenyuk.

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I'd be surprised if Galchenyuk is part of a Kovy deal. I thought they're looking for centers in MTL? 

I'm fine sending him wherever we can get the best return from, even if it's the Rags.

But I'm still not holding my breath that he's actually coming back, this could easily just be an effort to leverage more money from the KHL. I'll believe it only when I see him on the ice.

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I am fine with literally any other team than New York. If he's worth 'x' to other teams, it should take no less than 2x for Shero to deal him to NY.

But, am I missing something here with the Rangers? They've got ~7m in cap room and have to re-sign Zbad, Lindberg, Fast... and add defense? The fit doesn't seem to make any sense at all. 

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