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Based on how everyone in hockey told us the lead up to the expansion draft was going to be one of the craziest offseason events we've ever witnessed, sure it's disappointing that we're not at least si

Two days ago, this was a pathetic draft class that we wanted no part of other than Shattenkirk. Now, the sky is falling because we lost out on him since he's going to realize his 15 year old wet dream

So... Detroit... 

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27 minutes ago, mfitz804 said:

I was out for a few hours and I was looking forward to checking back in to see what great deal we pulled off in my absence. 

This was JUST what I had in mind!!

Ha, I was at the movies and heard my phone buzzing.  Thought it might be Radulov  , a trade or something positive.  Just my brother saying nothing happened, and a friend telling me he posted something cool on Instagram.  Well, at least it wasn't the signing of Bobby Butler.

1 hour ago, Weekes Head said:

 

I've said it before,  but sometimes I wish we had a real a$$hole of a beat writer like Brooks who could get in Shero's face and ask him some real uncomfortable, but necessary questions, like do you intend to give your fans any reason to actually come to games this year, or even watch them on TV instead of Everyone Loves Raymond reruns. 

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6 minutes ago, Triumph said:

I would absolutely sign Markov but I don't really see a purpose to doing that

The purpose is that we have an AHL level blueline, and he would make it slightly less awful.  I think the team is tanking anyway, so it defeats the purpose in that sense.

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The fact that Shero ducked the media today makes me think that he still has something else he is looking to do before he talks to them.

I don't know what everyone wanted besides Shattenkirk.  I don't see anything else I wanted, anyway.  Galchenyuk has not been traded.  

Just now, Daniel said:

The purpose is that we have an AHL level blueline, and he would make it slightly less awful.  I think the team is tanking anyway, so it defeats the purpose in that sense.

I don't see any evidence that the team is tanking.  

Markov is 39, so I don't know what he would get out of coming to this team other than money.

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1 minute ago, Daniel said:

I think Shero ducked the media because he knows he royally fvcked up this offseason.  

Gross said he was working on something and then nothing happened for pretty much anyone after that.  The day ended around 7 pm.

He did less last offseason and still talked to the media.

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1 minute ago, Triumph said:

Gross said he was working on something and then nothing happened for pretty much anyone after that.  The day ended around 7 pm.

He did less last offseason and still talked to the media.

Gross said he was working on something that turned into signing some ex-Penguin AHLers.  

Last offseason he traded for Hall.  Good move at the time.  Sadly he won't be around for much longer. 

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Just now, Daniel said:

Gross said he was working on something that turned into signing some ex-Penguin AHLers.  

Last offseason he traded for Hall.  Good move at the time.  Sadly he won't be around for much longer. 

I don't think that's what he was working on, but okay.  His AGM can handle those signings (and probably did).

Of course Hall will be gone.  The Devils won't sniff the playoffs ever again.  July 1 is when everything happens.  Ah, never change.

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1 hour ago, devils744 said:

as a season ticket holder i think i'm at the end of my tenure after this season. i don't think i can justify continually paying to watch an unwatchable product anymore. yes, this off season has a long way to go but lets be realistic there only trade chip is henrique and do we think he's bringing back a top 4 d-man? also, when hall gets traded because he rightfully won't sign an extension in a couple years the hall/larsson deal will look really bad. the playoffs are right now what feels like years away and with ticket prices and food rising and what feels like no hope in sight this might be it for me. maybe i'll be completely wrong come march but as of now it sure doesn't seem like i will be.

I agree with you. I have not renewed after last ten years as a STH. I have been a fan since 83 and will continue to be a fan ... just not a STH. it's a big sacrifice for me financially and logistically to be a STH but it was worth it. Now and for the foreseeable future this product is TV worthy only. 

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Interesting to me that there are reports out there that Shero refused to go beyond 4 or 5 years to sign Shattenkirk.  The only chance the Devils had to sign him was to give him the highest AAV and longest term and blow the Rags deal out of the water.   In the end, the decision was made easier for him by term we offered.  I like that Sheri is taking the long term view on this.  Hopefully we can work out something with a Kovy trade to bolster the D.

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1 hour ago, Daniel said:

I think Shero ducked the media because he knows he royally fvcked up this offseason.  

How did he do that exactly?  But not getting a player who was never coming here in the first place?  If Shero lands Shattenkirk are you going on and on like this?  Is 7/1 the only day where anything gets done now?  

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8 minutes ago, Chuck the Duck said:

Interesting to me that there are reports out there that Shero refused to go beyond 4 or 5 years to sign Shattenkirk.  The only chance the Devils had to sign him was to give him the highest AAV and longest term and blow the Rags deal out of the water.   In the end, the decision was made easier for him by term we offered.  I like that Sheri is taking the long term view on this.  Hopefully we can work out something with a Kovy trade to bolster the D.

Shero could've also realized that the guy's agent was likely using the Devils to pump up the Rangers' offer, and just decided not to waste any more of his time trying to bring in a player who had already made up his mind to sign with the Rangers and only the Rangers.  This is just one of those instances where blaming Shero for this is flat-out unfair.  

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2 hours ago, Sharifijanov2099 said:

PS - maybe NJ goes after Markov, another elder statesman, ala shades of Phil Housley.  Who knows.  Or maybe just bring Mark Fayne out of mothballs.  Guy is only 30 I think and doesn't have any major plans.

Yeah and while we're doing that we might as well bring Mark Fraser and Eric Gelinas back

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2 hours ago, Daniel said:

I think Shero ducked the media because he knows he royally fvcked up this offseason.  

I wouldn't go that far since I don't know how much he really could have done on the whole due to a variety of factors, but he certainly did a sell job on being in great shape to make moves this offseason with the cap space and double-digit draft picks that wound up (respectively) gathering dust and being used on prospects only and now that's blown up in his face.  For whatever reason they haven't been able to make moves so far and wound up overpromising and underdelivering.

I doubt he's ducking the media though, this isn't exactly Toronto.  The so-called media is Gross, the lacrosse writer from NJ.com, angry Larry at the Post and goofball Stan Fischler.

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I stand so differently as a long term season ticket holder than the others. It's one thing if you can't actually afford season tickets but if people are bailing simply cause we may lose another season idk, it just comes across as entitled and weak to me. Lou left this franchise in absolute shambles and I will gladly give Ray more than 2 seasons before I call for his head. 

I know it's not a proper comparison but I can't imagine what some of you would do if you were Florida Panthers or Arizona Coyotes fans, suicide watch would be at an all time high lol

As long as I can afford it I will always be a season ticket holder. Call me a sucker, call me whatever you want but win or lose fans are suppose to stick by their team and that's what I plan on continuing to do. 

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It was a bleak UFA class for the Devils' specific needs. To me there are/were basically two players you wanted on D: Shattenkirk and Franson. You can still sign the latter. To a lesser extent maybe Clendening, Corrado, MDZ. Not exactly gamechangers, those. Not signing Beau Bennett for a penny. But that's about it for forwards. I like Brian Boyle and the money is inconsequential at this point. He'll be fine. 

It was/is a tough spot to try to do something about the position ~27 teams are trying to improve. 

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Two days ago, this was a pathetic draft class that we wanted no part of other than Shattenkirk. Now, the sky is falling because we lost out on him since he's going to realize his 15 year old wet dream of being just like Marek Malik and all the other all-time great rangers he grew up idolizing while some of the best defensemen of all time were manning the blue line 20 minutes away. Who else is there to sign? No one.

Pretty idiotic to sh!t on our general manager for doing "nothing" when he's been very straight forward in that we are primarily building this team through the draft. We're not even close to even fully seeing what we've got from his first draft class, let alone the next one and then this years.

The fact that Shero doesn't do any of the stupid things we used to do / people are clamoring for on social media is exactly why he has my full confidence that we are going in the right direction.

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Ok there really wasn't much in this years UFA class. I'll give Shero a pass on that. I am also very glad to see a lot of the dead wood clearing out ( e.g. DSP, Camals, josephson, Bennett ...). 

Its good that more younger guys will have roster spots BUT we will still be mired in hockey hell for a Long time. I just hope the franchise can hang on long enough... Shero is really starting from scratch..

its like the very early days back in the 80's

lets Go Devils. 

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7 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Shero could've also realized that the guy's agent was likely using the Devils to pump up the Rangers' offer, and just decided not to waste any more of his time trying to bring in a player who had already made up his mind to sign with the Rangers and only the Rangers.  This is just one of those instances where blaming Shero for this is flat-out unfair.  

Don't get me wrong.  I agree that Shero should not be blamed as I'm glad he didn't overreact when we lost out on Shattenkirk by signing someone just for the sake of it.  Other than Shatty, there is basically nobody on the market worth the money.  The thing I found interesting was that the Devils valued him much less then everyone expected.  They clearly didn't see him as a long term #1 or 2, otherwise they would have made the 7 year offer and basically forced his hand into leaving $20 million on the table to play with the Rags.  In the end, Shero refused to make the mistake that could have come back to haunt us 4 or 5 years from now.  

However, he made numerous statements since the season ended about upgrading the D and, specifically, discussed using his draft picks to upgrade the position.  By him failing to do that in any meaningful way, when combined with what happened yesterday, I see where some of the frustration comes from.  That said, I like the fact he is looking at this with a long term perspective.  He's not forcing things the way Lou did towards the end of his tenure here.  we all knew this was going to be a lengthy rebuild in order to have it done right.  Getting the #1 pick helps it along, but it doesn't alter the timeframe that significantly.  Hopefully Shero can figure out a way to get Kovy to CBJ in exchange for Murray.  

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