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10 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

look at Florida's schedule. They will win more than lose until the end of the season

i'm hoping that FLA loses to CBJ on Thursday,

plus they have 3 games against BOS, a NSH, and a TOR, so I don't see FLA having an easy schedule. 

if they get in the playoffs then they will have earned it over the last quarter of the season.

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14 minutes ago, BlueSkirt said:

i'm hoping that FLA loses to CBJ on Thursday,

plus they have 3 games against BOS, a NSH, and a TOR, so I don't see FLA having an easy schedule. 

if they get in the playoffs then they will have earned it over the last quarter of the season.

FWIW, if the Devils go 5-5-1 the rest of the way, the Panthers would have to go 8-4-1 to finish ahead of them.  

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The Panthers have also lost to two non-playoff teams recently. I’m not as focused on their opponents as much as the number of games they have to play during the next couple weeks. They don’t have two nights off in a row the rest of the way. They either play every other night, or back-to-back. Hopefully they’ll run out of gas. 

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2 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

FWIW, if the Devils go 5-5-1 the rest of the way, the Panthers would have to go 8-4-1 to finish ahead of them.  

This is a stat I like.

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

The Panthers have also lost to two non-playoff teams recently. I’m not as focused on their opponents as much as the number of games they have to play during the next couple weeks. They don’t have two nights off in a row the rest of the way. They either play every other night, or back-to-back. Hopefully they’ll run out of gas. 

The problem sometimes is fans (especially ones who think the worst) think a hot team is just going to remain that way.  It's one thing to be scalding hot for 19 games to get into the outskirts of a playoff berth (like Florida did in going 15-3-1).  The problem is trying to keep that up for a LOT of games...and another problem is that the Panthers never actually nudged their way into a WC berth...they've never been anything more than on the outside looking in.  And of course Florida's schedule was extremely beneficial in that they got to play 12 games with damned near no travel. 

Not saying that they're dead, just that it's so friggin' hard to force your way up the standings when you're in constant need of help.  That's where the Panthers are.  Days keep ticking off the calendar and they keep on not getting any closer than they've been for a while now.  On 3/2 the Panthers were six points behind the Devils with three games in hand.  Now they're five back with two in hand.  So they've basically picked up one point on the Devils since then and lost one of their games in hand.  Two weeks have ticked off the schedule.

And as we keep seeing, parity = not many truly dreadful teams.  Sure, there's some bad ones (Montreal and the Isles have been especially awful lately...the Canadiens have four wins in their past 19 GP), but there just aren't many gimmes these days.  A seemingly sh!t team can take you down, especially if you go in thinking it's an easy two points. 

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After 4 goals the game prior, Kane had no points in SJ's win last night, but he did have 8 shots and 5 hits. Something is clicking.

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3 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

FWIW, if the Devils go 5-5-1 the rest of the way, the Panthers would have to go 8-4-1 to finish ahead of them.  

I don't think that's accurate.  If Devs go 5-5-1 and Fla goes 7-4-2 both will have exact same points (93) W, L,  and OTL  and if the ROW is same

-Florida won the season series  2-1 (tie breaker?)

In that case Fla would have to go 6-5-3 or 7-5-1 to miss playoffs.    

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1 hour ago, Have Another Donut said:

I don't think that's accurate.  If Devs go 5-5-1 and Fla goes 7-4-2 both will have exact same points (93) W, L,  and OTL  and if the ROW is same

-Florida won the season series  2-1 (tie breaker?)

In that case Fla would have to go 6-5-3 or 7-5-1 to miss playoffs.    

Still a little early for me to worry about specific tiebreaker scenarios.  But right now 11 points in their remaining 11 games would give the Devils 93 points on the season.  The Panthers need 17 to render any tiebreakers scenarios with the Devils moot.  

Anyway how can Florida go 6-5-3 when they only have 13 games left to play?  Guess you meant 6-4-3?  

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6 hours ago, BlueSkirt said:

i'm hoping that FLA loses to CBJ on Thursday,

plus they have 3 games against BOS, a NSH, and a TOR, so I don't see FLA having an easy schedule. 

if they get in the playoffs then they will have earned it over the last quarter of the season.

Boston is dealing with lots of important injuries tho and they'll play Toronto in the playoffs no matter what so not sure if they'll be giving their 100% during that whole stretch

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I mean anything can happen over these final 10-12 regular seasons games. The only way I look at it at this point is that Florida is 5 points back with 2 games in hand. That's ok position. They're definitely far from out of it yet and two wins for them and two losses for us can change the entire dynamic. That said, the same is true for Columbus and Philly who the Devils have one game on and Florida has three games on. If you forced me to make a prediction it would be the same as what I thought it was months ago and as it often is: 95 points gets you in in the East.

In the West, it is actually feasible that three teams with 95+ points will miss the playoffs, though I think it's likely at least one team will have 90-93.

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15 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

I mean anything can happen over these final 10-12 regular seasons games. The only way I look at it at this point is that Florida is 5 points back with 2 games in hand. That's ok position. They're definitely far from out of it yet and two wins for them and two losses for us can change the entire dynamic. That said, the same is true for Columbus and Philly who the Devils have one game on and Florida has three games on. If you forced me to make a prediction it would be the same as what I thought it was months ago and as it often is: 95 points gets you in in the East.

In the West, it is actually feasible that three teams with 95+ points will miss the playoffs, though I think it's likely at least one team will have 90-93.

Need 1.18 points per game left or 13 more points...5 or 6 regulation wins should get us in, I would think...

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Flyers up 4-1 against the caps, wtf are Caps doing, they don't even look like they're trying. Flyers played last night as well. Sheesh.

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5 minutes ago, Anhkheg said:

Flyers up 4-1 against the caps, wtf are Caps doing, they don't even look like they're trying. Flyers played last night as well. Sheesh.

This is what happens when you have to rely on the teams already in the playoffs to play hard for seeding.  We've had plenty of bad Marches (when we were actually good) when we sloughed through against teams who needed the points more than we did.

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Caps with an absolute dud, I thought they'd steam roll the Flyers. Regardless, Devils have to do their part, this is not going to be easy.

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TEAMS - GP - PTS - GR - MAX - DIFF
1)PHI - 73 -  85 -  9 - 103 - (+1)
2)CBJ - 72 -  83 - 10 - 103 - (+1)
4)NJD - 72 -  82 - 10 - 102 -  (E)
3)FLA - 69 -  77 - 13 - 103 - (+1)

Loss to Anaheim puts us in the fourth position for now in terms of max points.
 

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16 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Boston is dealing with lots of important injuries tho and they'll play Toronto in the playoffs no matter what so not sure if they'll be giving their 100% during that whole stretch

thanks for that insight !

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20 hours ago, Neb00rs said:

After 4 goals the game prior, Kane had no points in SJ's win last night, but he did have 8 shots and 5 hits. Something is clicking.

I feel like San Jose is going to spend the extra conditional 1st round pick and sign Evander Kane to a long term deal and he'll be useless once he gets his money.     

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17 hours ago, SterioDesign said:

Boston is dealing with lots of important injuries tho and they'll play Toronto in the playoffs no matter what so not sure if they'll be giving their 100% during that whole stretch

First place in the Atlantic is still in play for the Bruins...they're four back with two games in hand.  Not sure if that means that much to them, but right now they still have something to play for.

 

Will be nice if Montreal can give a sh!t just long enough to somehow beat the Panthers tonight...they're just 4-9-6 in their last 19 GP, but at least the game's at home...Montreal's been awful on the road all season (and especially putrid lately:  2-15-3 in their last 20 road games), but they've actually been pretty good at home as of late:  5-1-3 (with all of the wins being in regulation).  Guess they still kind of get up for their home fans. 

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27 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

First place in the Atlantic is still in play for the Bruins...they're four back with two games in hand.  Not sure if that means that much to them, but right now they still have something to play for.

 

Will be nice if Montreal can give a sh!t just long enough to somehow beat the Panthers tonight...they're just 4-9-6 in their last 19 GP, but at least the game's at home...Montreal's been awful on the road all season (and especially putrid lately:  2-15-3 in their last 20 road games), but they've actually been pretty good at home as of late:  5-1-3 (with all of the wins being in regulation).  Guess they still kind of get up for their home fans. 

It should mean a lot to the B's, a 1st round matchup against CBJ/FLA/NJ/PHI should be way more appetizing than a 1st round matchup than a Babcock coached Toronto team, hopefully that continues the Bruins to push down the stretch because we could really use a few wins from them over the Panthers

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Guys, take the time to read this Twitter thread by Slava Malamud. Truly insane over in the KHL: 

 

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Malamud is a bit a hack, I know him from Russian-speaking hockey forums since 1999, he used to be mostly comedian type of character - for example he was seriously making an argument that 2001 Sabres would beat 2001 Devils in a breeze in Conf Finals when they were up 3-2 against Penguins 

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Doubt we get any help tonight

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Habs just tied Panthers 1-1, but it just got overruled on an offside challenge.

1-0 Panthers going into 1st intermission.

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