MadDog2020 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 One year from now, it's Marty's turn. This will be huge for us fans and for the organization, and obviously the ultimate individual honor for Marty himself. Can't wait! https://www.nhl.com/news/martin-brodeur-likely-to-lead-2018-hockey-hall-of-fame-class/c-292966474?tid=283496592 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Curious if St. Louis makes it. I'm leaning no. He's right on the bubble. I'm sure he'll all irritate us by inflating his Rag career and reminiscing fondly upon his time at the garden brah. Brodeur should've had the waiting period waived. Not many guys have(and they officially ended it after Gretzky) but guys like Brodeur, Sakic, Hasek, Brett Hull etc should go in the year after they retire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) The only thing "anticlimactic" (sarcasm) about this...Brodeur was a lock to go into the HHoF in his first year of eligibility YEARS ago. We all know he's getting in as soon as it's humanly possible...zero debate about this. Not like Patrik's situation, which will definitely be a maybe, and have people debating why he should go or why he shouldn't. The perfect cap to an awesome and incredibly memorable career. Glad that I got to spend almost half my life watching him play goal for the Devils. Edited November 15, 2017 by Colorado Rockies 1976 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Should be a big and special day for him. I hope there's a good class that goes with him, because he deserves to stand next to other world-class players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyelias Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not sure if Marty is a first ballot guy. Should be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, pattyelias said: Not sure if Marty is a first ballot guy. Should be close. I assume you mean Marty St. Louis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: Not like Patrik's situation, which will definitely be a maybe, and have people debating why he should go or why he shouldn't. Butch Goring about 5 or 6 years ago said on one of the Isles telecasts that if Elias was to get in the HoF, he should be in The HoF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyelias Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Leeds said: I assume you mean Marty St. Louis? No. Brodeur. St. Louis is a clear cut first ballot HOFer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Elias: 1240 Games 408 goals 617 Assists 1025 pts Playoffs: 162 games 45 goals 80 assists 125 pts Goring: 1107 games 375 goals 513 assists 888 pts Playoffs: 134 games 38 goals 50 assists 88 pts (What's with all his 8's?) Comparable 2 minutes ago, pattyelias said: No. Brodeur. St. Louis is a clear cut first ballot HOFer. Funny stuff. I thought you were serious for a second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattyelias Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimmy Leeds said: Elias: 1240 Games 408 goals 617 Assists 1025 pts Playoffs: 162 games 45 goals 80 assists 125 pts Goring: 1107 games 375 goals 513 assists 888 pts Playoffs: 134 games 38 goals 50 assists 88 pts (What's with all his 8's?) Comparable Funny stuff. I thought you were serious for a second Slow day at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevsMan84 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, Jimmy Leeds said: Elias: 1240 Games 408 goals 617 Assists 1025 pts Playoffs: 162 games 45 goals 80 assists 125 pts Goring: 1107 games 375 goals 513 assists 888 pts Playoffs: 134 games 38 goals 50 assists 88 pts (What's with all his 8's?) Comparable Funny stuff. I thought you were serious for a second I still think Elias is more impressive when you think 1) He played in the dead puck era while Goring mostly played mostly during the live puck era and 2) Elias probably left about 200 career points on the table by sticking with the Devils through those years including some pretty offensively-depleted teams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Lamoriello has stated that the Devils had the top 3 goalies in this draft ranked 1. Brodeur 2. Dunham 3. Schwab It wasn't much of a secret that Calgary loved Trevor Kidd whose greatest NHL accomplishment was ugly checkered pads and growing a douchy nu metal bassist beard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Leeds Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, pattyelias said: Slow day at work. Good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 26 minutes ago, '7' said: Curious if St. Louis makes it. I'm leaning no. He's right on the bubble. I'm sure he'll all irritate us by inflating his Rag career and reminiscing fondly upon his time at the garden brah. Brodeur should've had the waiting period waived. Not many guys have(and they officially ended it after Gretzky) but guys like Brodeur, Sakic, Hasek, Brett Hull etc should go in the year after they retire. At this rate, we're gonna have to wait until 2040 to get Jagr in the HOF because of the waiting period 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jimmy Leeds said: Butch Goring about 5 or 6 years ago said on one of the Isles telecasts that if Elias was to get in the HoF, he should be in The HoF And he was rightly maligned for those remarks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 And he was rightly maligned for those remarks. Yeah Goring was a nice player and a winner, but Patty had clearly better numbers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, DevsMan84 said: I still think Elias is more impressive when you think 1) He played in the dead puck era while Goring mostly played mostly during the live puck era and 2) Elias probably left about 200 career points on the table by sticking with the Devils through those years including some pretty offensively-depleted teams. Not to turn this into a Goring vs Elias thread, but Goring also played on some loaded teams, and for much of his career, teams were averaging 3.5 GPG or better. Not sure how Goring (career -20) could ever equate himself to Elias (career +172). One guy was a good player and a winner, like MD2020 said, and the other guy is a debatable HHoFamer. 9 minutes ago, '7' said: Lamoriello has stated that the Devils had the top 3 goalies in this draft ranked 1. Brodeur 2. Dunham 3. Schwab It wasn't much of a secret that Calgary loved Trevor Kidd whose greatest NHL accomplishment was ugly checkered pads and growing a douchy nu metal bassist beard Kidd was actually high on a lot of boards...just not Lou's. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 I still think Elias is more impressive when you think 1) He played in the dead puck era while Goring mostly played mostly during the live puck era and 2) Elias probably left about 200 career points on the table by sticking with the Devils through those years including some pretty offensively-depleted teams. Lockouts. Don't forget lockouts. Patty lost a whole season of his prime, as did Marty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Gillies is the guy from the old Isles teams that Goring can take issue with because he has no business being in the Hall. And no he wasn't revolutionary in any way as a player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 You mean Hall of Fame St. Louis Blues Goaltender Martin Brodeur?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Lockouts. Don't forget lockouts. Patty lost a whole season of his prime, as did Marty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not to mention what happened to Patrik during that lost season...ugh... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: You mean Hall of Fame St. Louis Blues Goaltender Martin Brodeur?! The Blues always wanted revenge on us. The tampering that led to Stevens after we rebuffed Brind'Amour & Cujo. Then the tampering with Stevens that led to us being awarded a pick. Having Brodeur in that uniform however brief it was, and then keeping him as a gofer was meant as a shot at us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not to mention what happened to Patrik during that lost season...ugh... Right? Which caused him to miss the first three months of 05-06- Patty didn't make it back until January of that season. So that stupid lockout actually cost Patty a season+. Lot of lost production there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 If you hypothetically had players and league execs elect players to the HOF, and if you could control their impulse to vote for their buddies, Elias would be a lock. I don’t know of a writer that didn’t cover the Devils who comes close to appreciating how good Elias was and for how long he was so good. They’re mostly the people who think the Devils teams of 1999 to 2003 were “boring.” (Of course they’re the same people who say Ottawa was “crafty” for playing an even more exaggerated form of the trap). On the other hand, I bet that most players and GMs appreciated that he was one of the best players in the game. But that’s not the way it works, so I don’t think Elias will ever make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck the Duck Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Jimmy Leeds said: Butch Goring about 5 or 6 years ago said on one of the Isles telecasts that if Elias was to get in the HoF, he should be in The HoF Butch Goring is an idiot Isles shill. Now that Kariya got in, Elias absolutely deserves to be in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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