Triumph Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Daniel said: Only thing I hope the team keeps in mind is what happened when the Isles sold low on Niedereitter. Or what happened when the Islanders sold high on Griffin Reinhart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Triumph said: Or what happened when the Islanders sold high on Griffin Reinhart. I mean, some GMs never cease to amaze, but I don’t think you’re going to see one like that for a while. But yeah, if someone wants to give me the 14th pick in the draft for Zacha, I’ll take the risk that he puts it together with another team. At the same time, I’d rather just hang on to him and take a chance that he’s the next Rostislav Olesz (y’know because they’re both Czech) than getting pretty much nothing for him, which is what the Isles got for Neidereitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) We're also talking about a team that had a #1 and #5 pick in the first round and they picked Rick DiPietro and Raffi Torres respectively. Nothing against Humpty but you see diamonds in the rough like Bobrovsky go undrafted and then Price going 5th overall, DiPietro going first is fvcking insane considering the Islanders could have had Heatley, Gaborik, or Hartnell; and then Torres at 5th, I don't understand how MGMT wasn't cleaned out after 2000 for NYI point: We are not the Islanders and if we can get something for Zacha that's worth it, then fvck it, go for it. Edited December 7, 2017 by RunninWithTheDevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiquated Colorado Rockie Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 24 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: We're also talking about a team that had a #1 and #5 pick in the first round and they picked Rick DiPietro and Raffi Torres respectively. Nothing against Humpty but you see diamonds in the rough like Bobrovsky go undrafted and then Price going 5th overall, DiPietro going first is fvcking insane considering the Islanders could have had Heatley, Gaborik, or Hartnell; and then Torres at 5th, I don't understand how MGMT wasn't cleaned out after 2000 for NYI point: We are not the Islanders and if we can get something for Zacha that's worth it, then fvck it, go for it. And from there DiPietro sucked/was injured non factor from about 2008 on, has been retired several years and will be costing the Islanders a cap hit until 2029. #assetmanagement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunninWithTheDevil Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said: And from there DiPietro sucked/was injured non factor from about 2008 on, has been retired several years and will be costing the Islanders a cap hit until 2029. #assetmanagement Not that it changes much but IIRC DiPietros buyout doesn't count against their cap I could be wrong though Edited December 7, 2017 by RunninWithTheDevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonDreads Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 8 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: Not that it changes much but IIRC DiPietros buyout doesn't count against their cap I could be wrong though Correct, he was bought out with one of those compliance buyouts after the 2013 lockout, so he's not against the Cap, though the Isles will still be paying him through 2029 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I don't think anyone is suggesting giving away Zacha for nothing. But I'd listen to what people have to offer. Then again, I would always listen to that for every player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 12 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said: We're also talking about a team that had a #1 and #5 pick in the first round and they picked Rick DiPietro and Raffi Torres respectively. Nothing against Humpty but you see diamonds in the rough like Bobrovsky go undrafted and then Price going 5th overall, DiPietro going first is fvcking insane considering the Islanders could have had Heatley, Gaborik, or Hartnell; and then Torres at 5th, I don't understand how MGMT wasn't cleaned out after 2000 for NYI point: We are not the Islanders and if we can get something for Zacha that's worth it, then fvck it, go for it. Even worse, they traded Luongo to make room for DiPietro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Devil Dan 56 said: Even worse, they traded Luongo to make room for DiPietro. Milbury was SUCH a colossal fvck-up as the Isles' GM...how he held on to the job for as long as he did will truly remain one of life's great mysteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Here’s an idea, Zacha and something else we can live without for Galchenyuk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 2:59 AM, Marshall said: He has been a lot better than Zacha. Konecny has not been better than Zacha in anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 5 hours ago, Mike Brown said: Konecny has not been better than Zacha in anyway. OK Mike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Here’s an idea, Zacha and something else we can live without for Galchenyuk. I was thinking about something like that. Two players that could probably use a change of scenery. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devlman Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 No way I'm giving up on a 20 year old former sixth overall pick. So he can't crack a lineup w a lot of centers. Big deal. Let him develop. He's very young, people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Zacha in for Stafford tonight. 2C. Zajac dropped to 3rd line 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 11 minutes ago, Lateralous said: Zacha in for Stafford tonight. 2C. Zajac dropped to 3rd line Both are good moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiquated Colorado Rockie Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 9 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Both are good moves. agreed. Especially on a back to back, fresh legs lets see what Zacha can bring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Good game for Zacha tonight. Hopefully he can build on it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 Whiffed on at least 5 chances it seemed. Hopefully he gets a couple consecutive games, gets his timing back, and gets some goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: Good game for Zacha tonight. Hopefully he can build on it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I gotta say, I didn't think he was good at all. He couldn't finish and he didn't look fast to the puck or on the puck. Yeah, he got an assist when the Rangers fell asleep but I saw no marked improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triumph Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Neb00rs said: I gotta say, I didn't think he was good at all. He couldn't finish and he didn't look fast to the puck or on the puck. Yeah, he got an assist when the Rangers fell asleep but I saw no marked improvement. He was rusty, but he was on the puck a hell of a lot more than previous games. Drove hard to the net a couple times and ended up with 3 shots, and would've had more if not for a few flubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I gotta say, I didn't think he was good at all. He couldn't finish and he didn't look fast to the puck or on the puck. Yeah, he got an assist when the Rangers fell asleep but I saw no marked improvement. He was on the puck all night and had chances. He didn't finish, but sh!t happens. And his assist was a nice pass, don't know what it had to do with the Rags 'falling asleep' as you say. That sounds more like an effort to discredit a nice play Zacha made to fit your argument. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Definitely a step in the right direction, self-starting for the next game is key now. And then for the next game, and the next, and the next... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: He was on the puck all night and had chances. He didn't finish, but sh!t happens. And his assist was a nice pass, don't know what it had to do with the Rags 'falling asleep' as you say. That sounds more like an effort to discredit a nice play Zacha made to fit your argument. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I'm not discrediting him for the nice pass, it was a nice, albeit pretty standard NHL pass. He didn't make the play though, Butcher did, and the Rangers were asleep. I guess you can say Zacha timed his draw of the puck from backhand to forehand quite nicely. 2 hours ago, Triumph said: He was rusty, but he was on the puck a hell of a lot more than previous games. Drove hard to the net a couple times and ended up with 3 shots, and would've had more if not for a few flubs. I'll give you that I shouldn't say "no marked improvement." That's hyperbolic. But, flubs are not like...just a matter of luck. If three shots on goal becomes a regular thing for him though, I'll leave my complaints for Zajac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lateralous Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, Neb00rs said: I'll give you that I shouldn't say "no marked improvement." That's hyperbolic. But, flubs are not like...just a matter of luck. If three shots on goal becomes a regular thing for him though, I'll leave my complaints for Zajac. Of his various development warts, I really don’t remember flubbing prime scoring chances as an issue with Zacha like it might be with a guy like Zajac. If anything, PZ usually seems to ring his chances off the post. For that reason, for the time being i’m happy to chalk the flubs up to some combination of rust and holding the stick too tight. I think everyone’s issue has been his timid play and lack of involvement and I think that was much, much better last night. If he continues that play you’ll see a lot more points come. Also, I don’t think you’re giving him enough credit on that assist. He settled the puck and moved the launch point pretty quickly which is what allowed that pass to get though. I don’t think there are too many guys on the roster other than the top line that would have made that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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