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GDT - Devils vs Rangers 12/21/17

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16 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Just an fyi but you should be able to click that down arrow on the right side and click copy link to tweet, then when you paste it here it will post the tweet instead of just a link like this... 

 

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1 hour ago, Jimmy Leeds said:

Uggh, well there goes our season.  Brooks is pretty much wrong about everything. Just this season it was Shattenkirk was a disaster until he wasn’t.  Lunqvist is finished until he’s keeping the Rangers comfortably in the playoff picture.   Vingeaut needs to be fired, until there’s a very good run of good hockey.

Well, it was fun while it lasted.  Hopefully we’ll get Rasmus Dahin, as my hopes for Shero pulling off a Karlsson trade for a Cup run are now dashed.  Actually scratch that.  Shero’s gonna trade Zacha and a first, for James Neal and we’ll miss the playoffs, and Vegas will win the lottery with our pick.

Brooksie has really really bad mojo.

Addendum:  And it goes without saying the Rangers will now win the next three Cups.  

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Just an fyi but you should be able to click that down arrow on the right side and click copy link to tweet, then when you paste it here it will post the tweet instead of just a link like this... 
 

Thanks for the heads up- I'll look for it next time, but I usually use Tapatalk to post in here.


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2 hours ago, Jimmy Leeds said:
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If not for Lundqvist, under siege for nearly all of the first 40 minutes in which the Devils generated 38 shots on net that included at least a dozen glorious chances, the Blueshirts would have been blown into the nearby confluence of the Passaic and Hackensack rivers. The Devils were irrepressible. They created havoc in the New York end and came through the neutral zone in electric waves that rode back to the top of the Metro Division.

Brooks is a hack but that was a fun read indeed. Thanks for posting, I don't think I would've seen otherwise.

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14 hours ago, Devs3cups said:

Also, seeing Schneider pumped after his save on Shattenkirk in the SO was great. 

I think that's the most animated I've ever seen Cory in a Devils uniform. He's fvcking feeling it. They all are.

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8 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

This isn't directed at anyone in particular, but I wonder if any other teams' boards pick apart their #1 goalie as much as this one does.  Maybe in some odd way it's a compliment...that we think that Schneider is capable of such greatness that he's barely allowed to give up a goal without it being heavily dissected and criticized.  As far as last night's game goes, I don't know what he was supposed to do about goals #1 and #3...he made a flurry of saves before the first one, and the third one went in off Severson's skate.  I'm guessing if you could watch every team's #1 (those who have a clear #1, anyway) for a full season, Cory's body of work would rank in or very near the Top 5, factoring in everything.  It would also be nice if some could acknowledge that for every "stoppable" shot that goes in, Schneids makes a hell of a lot of tough saves too...he made a bunch last night.  One of those games where his save% didn't really tell the whole story. 

I know you said this isn't directed at anyone but perhaps my comments spurred yours in some way, perhaps not. In any case, everyone needs to acknowledge how good Cory is. Some nights he's flawless, especially technically. I think it's worth pointing out when he gets outplayed though, as he did last night. The goals certainly weren't his fault though.

I've certainly given Cory his due on this board.

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8 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

Lundqvist since 11/8:  .936 save%

Pavelec in the same period:  .941 save%

Anybody see those two keeping THAT up? 

I don't think anyone argues that Lundqvist is going to maintain a .940 save% but does he have to for the Rangers to win? They've scored almost 3.5 goals per game since mid October.

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7 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

I don't think anyone argues that Lundqvist is going to maintain a .940 save% but does he have to for the Rangers to win? They've scored almost 3.5 goals per game since mid October.

I really don't understand where their offense comes from.

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4 minutes ago, pattyelias said:

I really don't understand where their offense comes from.

They are really good at creating odd man rushes and finding the open man. Those fast counter attacks are very well structured.

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7 minutes ago, pattyelias said:

I really don't understand where their offense comes from.

As much as I'd like to say they are lucky, they aren't.  They skate well and get to the net for rebounds.  They don't have a superstar forward or big shooter in their lineup, and don't need one.  They transition the puck well out of their zone, create lots of odd man rushes, and they back off the opponents D with their speed, which opens up the middle of the ice for the late forward into the zone to get a shot as the other 2 crash the net for rebounds.

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1 hour ago, Daniel said:

Uggh, well there goes our season.  Brooks is pretty much wrong about everything. Just this season it was Shattenkirk was a disaster until he wasn’t.  Lunqvist is finished until he’s keeping the Rangers comfortably in the playoff picture.   Vingeaut needs to be fired, until there’s a very good run of good hockey.

Well to be fair we all said the same thing about Shattenkirk, Lundqvist and Vignault around the same time lol 

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20 hours ago, Neb00rs said:

Despite the fact that the guy has a freakish .940 sv pct. since Nov. 1st, he sucks, his pads are too big, he dives, he's a loser, and I hope he enjoys the rest of the 50 years of his life in which he has to think about how his inadequacies led him to never win the big one.

funny.   Somehow I think he'll figure out a way to get by even if he never wins  a cup. 

 

 

Huge win and well deserved just gotta laugh at the stepchild attitude that a lot of guys have here,  You name it Vescey, Shattenkirk, Lunqvist the list goes on and on.  In almost every situation a free agent is going to go there over here, so what and I don't think it's really all about the money.   It's hasn't lead to much other than having played a ton of playoff games over the last 7-8 years but still coming up short of the ultimate goal.

I'm fine with were we are and even admit Newark isn't MSG.  sh!t on it all you want.  The numbers of rangers fans there last night is something that happens when you're the little brother in the market. Thankfully lots of people got to go home with a L.

 

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6 hours ago, Triumph said:

For some in this fanbase, they just haven't realized that Schneider showed up right when the rest of the franchise was heading down the toilet.  Before this season, Schneider's maybe had one team better than the worst one Brodeur had, and Brodeur was here for 20 years.  I think they resent the way that the online fanbase turned against Brodeur in that 2013-14 year, but I can't be sure.  For some of these people, it's easy to imagine them hoping that the goalie the Devils got after Brodeur would be a pile of garbage so they could point to Brodeur's achievements and say 'We miss Marty in his prime', but that's a sentiment I don't see anywhere.

Anyway, I hear that there's a very vocal but small group of Rangers fans who wanted them to trade Lundqvist and play Talbot, who wanted them to trade Lundqvist and play Rantta - it's just not limited to Devils fans.  When you rely on one guy to get you a win most nights, it's easy to feel like he comes up short too often when the rest of the team isn't pulling its weight.  

My brothers a ranger fan and wanted the rangers to trade Lindquist a few seasons ago and make Talbot their goalie.  He said they needed offense and Henrik will never win with this rangers team, as he was the only one who was "playing to win", and carried his team's to the finals. 

If you ask him, everyone besides Henrik suck.

 

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6 hours ago, titans04 said:

funny.   Somehow I think he'll figure out a way to get by even if he never wins  a cup. 

Yeah, the Rangers will probably bring the Cup to his first of three jersey retirement ceremonies (home, way, alternate) where he will skate around the ice with it, then to his statue unveiling, and finally to a separate Lundqvist appreciation night. Additionally, Rangers fans (their announcers included) will forever talk about how much harder it is to win a gold medal than a Cup and consider him to be the hands down best goalie ever despite never winning the big one because "he just didn't have the right team around him."

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17 hours ago, Neb00rs said:

Yeah, the Rangers will probably bring the Cup to his first of three jersey retirement ceremonies (home, way, alternate) where he will skate around the ice with it, then to his statue unveiling, and finally to a separate Lundqvist appreciation night. Additionally, Rangers fans (their announcers included) will forever talk about how much harder it is to win a gold medal than a Cup and consider him to be the hands down best goalie ever despite never winning the big one because "he just didn't have the right team around him."

or anybody could spend 10 seconds and google  a dozen cup winning goalies that weren't nearly as good.   But if you can't see past being a Devils fan it's not gonna matter.  

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2 hours ago, titans04 said:

or anybody could spend 10 seconds and google  a dozen cup winning goalies that weren't nearly as good.   But if you can't see past being a Devils fan it's not gonna matter.  

Hey, I like your posts and sure I know Henrik is good but yes I'm going to sh!t on him and NO, I can't see past being a Devils fan. I'll happily admit that.

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On 12/23/2017 at 9:46 PM, Neb00rs said:

Hey, I like your posts and sure I know Henrik is good but yes I'm going to sh!t on him and NO, I can't see past being a Devils fan. I'll happily admit that.

happy holidays.

The list of goalies that have won cups has a bunch of guys who just weren't all that good but where on the right team at the right time.  Personally I thinks is pretty rare where a goalie steals a cup.  But I wouldn't trade ours for anything. :) 

 

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2 hours ago, titans04 said:

happy holidays.

The list of goalies that have won cups has a bunch of guys who just weren't all that good but where on the right team at the right time.  Personally I thinks is pretty rare where a goalie steals a cup.  But I wouldn't trade ours for anything. :) 

 

 

Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't take Antti Niemi over Lundqvist?

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13 hours ago, titans04 said:

happy holidays.

The list of goalies that have won cups has a bunch of guys who just weren't all that good but where on the right team at the right time.  Personally I thinks is pretty rare where a goalie steals a cup.  But I wouldn't trade ours for anything. :) 

 

It's very rare for a goalie to steal a cup.  Lundquvist came really  close to doing that in the playoffs where they lost to the kings.  He was the only reason why they made it to the finals that year. 

Brodeur and Roy obvs are elite, but they also had quite a bit of help with some cups. (Roy was on better teams imo, brodeur had the best system working for him though)

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24 minutes ago, bobilly45 said:

It's very rare for a goalie to steal a cup.  Lundquvist came really  close to doing that in the playoffs where they lost to the kings.  He was the only reason why they made it to the finals that year. 

Brodeur and Roy obvs are elite, but they also had quite a bit of help with some cups. (Roy was on better teams imo, brodeur had the best system working for him though)

Unfortunately, the last goalie to steal a Cup was probably Quick in 2012.

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18 hours ago, pattyelias said:

 

Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't take Antti Niemi over Lundqvist?

just a few off one list

JS Giguere

Osgood

Vernon

Richter

MAF/Matt  Murray or any Pens goalie - thanks Sid and Co

Crawford same deal imo an interchangeable part

Ward

Khabibulin

Thomas

Some guys got hot at the right time, most were surrounded by the much better team.

 

The days of goalies stealing cups is few and far between. 

like someone else said the shorter list maybe guys that have stole the cup.

 

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16 hours ago, Nicomo said:

Unfortunately, the last goalie to steal a Cup was probably Quick in 2012.

That team was a bulldozer. He stole nothing but he made rounds 1-3 short.

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7 hours ago, Marshall said:

That team was a bulldozer. He stole nothing but he made rounds 1-3 short.

I wonder if our current team can handle the hitting of playoff hockey for multiple extended series

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