fsu1852 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Would you guys have interest? or stay the course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 are there rumors of him being available or something? at this point if we are going to be making trades and moving assets I think it should be to improve out defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsu1852 Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, 2ELIAS6 said: are there rumors of him being available or something? at this point if we are going to be making trades and moving assets I think it should be to improve out defense They're pretty serious rumors but I agree with the Defense. Figured it would be a interesting topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Bergevin has to make a deal where the perception is that he got an overpayment. Therefore I would not overpay for a scoring winger who is on the wrong side of the age where players like that typically decline. I would much rather go all in for Karlsson and/or try to be a serious player for Evander Kane. Edited December 31, 2017 by Daniel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 26 minutes ago, Daniel said: Bergevin has to make a deal where the perception is that he got an overpayment. Therefore I would not overpay for a scoring winger who is on the wrong side of the age where players like that typically decline. I would much rather go all in for Karlsson and/or try to be a serious player for Evander Kane. I want Evander Kane no where near this team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Just now, jagknife said: I want Evander Kane no where near this team. He can play for my team any day, especially a team that wants to be built on speed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I'd pass on Max and Kane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Would love Pacioretty, but tbh I'd rather prefer a LHD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) if I thought kane could be taught to play in our system I would take him in a heartbeat.. he becomes our top goal scoring and toughens up a weak hitting offense.. Id have him talk to a few shrinks first then tie him up to a decent contract.. people said PK subban was crazy and kessell was a cancer... show this kid a true home and I think he would be a good devil.. our scoring may drop under 3 per game soon as our 4 line cools off this shouldnt effect a quest for a 1D either Edited December 31, 2017 by EdgeControl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Patches is going to be a huge overpayment from someone, or at least that’s what Bergevin is expecting. I’m not a big fan of his age either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, EdgeControl said: if I thought kane could be taught to play in our system I would take him in a heartbeat.. he becomes our top goal scoring and toughens up a weak hitting offense.. Id have him talk to a few shrinks first then tie him up to a decent contract.. people said PK subban was crazy and kessell was a cancer... show this kid a true home and I think he would be a good devil.. our scoring may drop under 3 per game soon as our 4 line cools off this shouldnt effect a quest for a 1D either Was the one that helped Bratt so much Swedish or American? Cause that could be a perfect place to start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Martyisth3b3st said: I would rather Josefson back than Kane. Kane has great talent, great speed, and absolutely nothing between the ears. As far as Patches; there’s no room for another top-6 forward; that’s why we made the Henrique move. If we’re going to acquire anything, I’d love for it to be something to replace Greene’s minutes. oh good lord please no. Just NO. Been there done that over a few years he failed. Agree Kane is a brick short of a load but if I had to choose one or the other it's a slam dunk, I would prefer to pass all the way around. Edited January 1, 2018 by titans04 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 Despite our surprise success this season the Devils can't lose focus on the future. We are NOT a win NOW team that's going to sacrifice pieces to get a player that will help us win this year. That's what it takes to get a Pacioretty at the deadline. Additionally, the only significant moves we should be making are for D-men. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 That poor guy must want to get out of MTL so fvcking bad. He's constantly being sh!t on by the fans and i never understood that. Buddy as been costing 4.5m per season and the last 4 season he got between 60 and 67 pts every seasons. And they are not happy with that. How can you not look around the league and understand that he's an incredible deal. Well i know why he was not an ass licker like Subban who played the fans like a violon. That fanbase is the team's worst enemy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Neb00rs said: Despite our surprise success this season the Devils can't lose focus on the future. We are NOT a win NOW team that's going to sacrifice pieces to get a player that will help us win this year. That's what it takes to get a Pacioretty at the deadline. Additionally, the only significant moves we should be making are for D-men. It is more than plausible that Shero will make a big push for Karlsson if Melnyk tells Dorian to trade him. In fact, I have trouble thinking of that many other teams that would have the assets that Ottawa would want, is a destination that Ottawa would be ok with trading him to (i.e. not Toronto) that has the cap space for him now, and would have the space to sign him long term. Edited January 1, 2018 by Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Daniel said: It is more than plausible that Shero will make a big push for Karlsson if Melnyk tells Dorian to trade him. In fact, I have trouble thinking of that many other teams that would have the assets that Ottawa would want, is a destination that Ottawa would be ok with trading him to (i.e. not Toronto) that has the cap space for him now, and would have the space to sign him long term. I hope not. We' d have to pay big time for a player who might not even re-sign with us. Who are you willing to give up for Karlsson? Bratt? Butcher? A 1st? Edited January 1, 2018 by Neb00rs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 10 hours ago, Neb00rs said: Despite our surprise success this season the Devils can't lose focus on the future. We are NOT a win NOW team that's going to sacrifice pieces to get a player that will help us win this year. That's what it takes to get a Pacioretty at the deadline. Additionally, the only significant moves we should be making are for D-men. 3 hours ago, Neb00rs said: I hope not. We' d have to pay big time for a player who might not even re-sign with us. Who are you willing to give up for Karlsson? Bratt? Butcher? A 1st? I don’t believe Shero is giving up anything major for Karlsson or anyone else as a deadline deal. He made a point on the Henrique trade of mentioning that Vatanen was under contract longer. He’s not going to trade away the future for a guy who may not re-sign. At least I hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 no one is bringing in a top player without locking him up to an agreed upon contract.. thats not a practical argument for these trades.. the questions are, for what do we give up and terms of the deal? and is your team better after the dust settles... is our scoring rate sustainable as is? most seem to think we're set there, I dont why does an offensive move/Trade prevent a 1D FA acquisition? btw, I put bratt on the untouchable list with nico and hall.. thats about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: is our scoring rate sustainable as is? most seem to think we're set there, I dont Agreed, if there’s a stud forward available, I have no problem going after him. Trading Adam Henrique was not at all a “we have too many top 6 forwards” move, if you believe that, you’re on serious drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Neb00rs said: I hope not. We' d have to pay big time for a player who might not even re-sign with us. Who are you willing to give up for Karlsson? Bratt? Butcher? A 1st? Severson, McLeod, Zacha and a first. Maybe you can switch Quenneville and Bastian for Zacha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 23 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: no one is bringing in a top player without locking him up to an agreed upon contract.. thats not a practical argument for these trades.. the questions are, for what do we give up and terms of the deal? and is your team better after the dust settles... is our scoring rate sustainable as is? most seem to think we're set there, I dont why does an offensive move/Trade prevent a 1D FA acquisition? btw, I put bratt on the untouchable list with nico and hall.. thats about it I wouldn’t trade Cory or Butcher either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Nicomo said: I wouldn’t trade Cory or Butcher either. Cory yes, left out goalies.. but her is interesting.. depends on the return.. for Karlsson. I'd do it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Martyisth3b3st said: Dozens of superstars get dealt at the deadline without a contract extension agreed upon. See: Kovalchuk, Ilya. Yup, meant to say, no one here in this org.. we're not Pitt grabbing a Kessel to put us over the top... our moves are longer term.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neb00rs Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Daniel said: Severson, McLeod, Zacha and a first. Maybe you can switch Quenneville and Bastian for Zacha. This is a dream scenario. I don't believe for a second that gets Karlsson. Not even close. And the Devils' first won't be worth much. You're going to have to give up top players to get one of the best players in the league, maybe the best d-man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ELIAS6 Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 as far as karlsson goes, why wouldn't we just wait until FA to see if we can get him for nothing but $ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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