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14 hours ago, roomtemp said:

I only say that because it reminds me of one of their birthdays last year at Atlantic City. Me and a 7 lesbians having dinner and going to a strip club

#GirlsNightOut

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1 minute ago, Triumph said:

I guess you missed the part where I cited his AHL shooting numbers?  So yeah, anyone can shoot 10% in 66 NHL games, but over 447 AHL games, not anyone can shoot 12%.  

I'm basing my expectation of his performance in part on the fact that Gibbons does not get a lot of shots and so players like that tend to be more selective with their shots and score on a higher percentage of them.  Is this necessarily true, of course not, there's Josefsons out there, but they are comparatively rare.

No, I saw the 12% (which is why I said "partly basing"), just not sure how much relevance his AHL numbers have to this debate.  Should I really care all that much that Gibby was a 12.3% shooter in the AHL, especially with some of those years coming as overage, and with his 2013-14 AHL season (20.7%) inflating his overall shooting% somewhat?  In his last three AHL seasons, he shot 7.3% in 26 GP, 8.3% in 63 GP, and 13.3% in 72 GP, so he wasn't consistent in recent years down there, for whatever that's worth.

Also FWIW it's not like I think Gibby will shoot 3.4% for the rest of the year, but I don't think his mean will necessarily be 10-11% either.       

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2 hours ago, DevsMan84 said:

It was invented by this guy.  I am not kidding either.

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like I said!

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1 hour ago, Nicomo said:

He missed a lot of games a in Edmonton. Only played 70+ twice in 6 seasons. 

With the chemistry he has with Nico and Bratt I think 30 goals a season is realistic for him if he stays healthy. 

True, and I didn't really notice that either.  Glad he's been pretty healthy for us thus far.  It's good that he's on a line with a really young guy like Nico, who is only going to continue to get better, which will have a direct effect on Hall.

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5 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said:

True, and I didn't really notice that either.  Glad he's been pretty healthy for us thus far.  It's good that he's on a line with a really young guy like Nico, who is only going to continue to get better, which will have a direct effect on Hall.

He's been on pace for 30 in some seasons where he wasn't able to play 82 games.  I feel like as long as he doesn't miss more than 2-3 games, he can hit 30 this season. 

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50 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

No, I saw the 12% (which is why I said "partly basing"), just not sure how much relevance his AHL numbers have to this debate.  Should I really care all that much that Gibby was a 12.3% shooter in the AHL, especially with some of those years coming as overage, and with his 2013-14 AHL season (20.7%) inflating his overall shooting% somewhat?  In his last three AHL seasons, he shot 7.3% in 26 GP, 8.3% in 63 GP, and 13.3% in 72 GP, so he wasn't consistent in recent years down there, for whatever that's worth.

Also FWIW it's not like I think Gibby will shoot 3.4% for the rest of the year, but I don't think his mean will necessarily be 10-11% either.       

You don't get to pick and choose which samples are relevant.  They're all part of the same whole.  Just as when next season if Gibbons is still here you go through your 'Well, since December 1 of 2017, Gibbons only has 6 goals etc. etc.' rigamarole - he scored 11 goals before that.  They all count, no matter where you stop and start.

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3 minutes ago, Triumph said:

You don't get to pick and choose which samples are relevant.  They're all part of the same whole.  Just as when next season if Gibbons is still here you go through your 'Well, since December 1 of 2017, Gibbons only has 6 goals etc. etc.' rigamarole - he scored 11 goals before that.  They all count, no matter where you stop and start.

So I should care about what Gibby did in 2013-14?  Or about his AHL numbers?  Not me.  And like I've said, that freak stretch that saw him score waaaaay more than we ever could've expected was a lot of fun while it lasted, for him and everyone else...and it helped the Devils get off to a great start.  I don't have to define what an anomaly is for you...sometimes guys go on unforeseen tears, and sometimes there clear reasons as to WHY they go on tears, and why they'll come back to Earth, and why there's a very good chance that such a tear will be an isolated occurance.  Gibby didn't suddenly become a better scorer or figure out how to beat goalies at a crazy rate...it's worth isolating the sample because it's something that will almost certainly never happen again.  It's not representative at all of the player that Gibby really is, so no, it's not all part of the same whole.  Maybe if we're lucky, Gibby can somehow be around the 10% shooter you think he can be from now until his Devils career ends...I would take that, especially since like I've said in earlier posts, it's not like I ever expected him to be a goal-scorer, or a guy the Devils should rely on for that purpose.  Like you said, even if he only scores a few more goals from here on out, he's already earned his money for this season.     

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45 minutes ago, Triumph said:

You don't get to pick and choose which samples are relevant.  They're all part of the same whole.  Just as when next season if Gibbons is still here you go through your 'Well, since December 1 of 2017, Gibbons only has 6 goals etc. etc.' rigamarole - he scored 11 goals before that.  They all count, no matter where you stop and start.

Nobody was counting Stafford's 5 when he was 3rd on the team and everyone said he sucked...

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6 hours ago, sundstrom said:

in order - gibbons, lovejoy, johannson, assist, severson, hall, palmieri, bratt, noeson, vatanen, greene, schneider

thanks for the recap. I was interested in the tweet but for the most part was unable to figure out what the hell he has writing about.

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7 hours ago, NJDfan1711 said:

Yeah, in all honesty, I'll be pretty disappointed if he doesn't notch a few seasons of 30 goals. I actually hadn't realized that he has never had a 30 goal season in his career yet.  Granted this year he's notched more assists, and usually does, but we still need goal scoring on a consistent basis, and with guys like Bratt and Gibbons not a shoe-in by any means to repeat their performances from this year again next year, I think we still need to count on Hall to put the puck in the net often.

It's too bad he isn't a great finisher, Hall can generate chances as well as dam near anybody.

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7 minutes ago, Antiquated Colorado Rockie said:

It's too bad he isn't a great finisher, Hall can generate chances as well as dam near anybody.

He has one goal more than McDavid in 5 less games. 

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16 hours ago, Triumph said:

I dunno, it's not easy for a shooter to even hit the net from there, plus the pass comes from up top - it doesn't traverse the entire royal road.

It's not a "traditional" RR pass, but with the screen and everything it makes it tough for Halak and achieves a similar effect. 

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