Devilsfan118 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I'm over KK as our backup. Plenty of better goalies out there looking for an opportunity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: eventhough it sucks that Kinkaid havent being a super solid backup this year. Buddy is making 1.2m... 47th in the league in goalie salary. What kind of expectations can we have? Eddie Lack is actually getting paid over twice that, almost 3x his salary and he's in the AHL lol Anton Khudobin is making the exact same and is a significantly better backup compared to Kinkiad. A price-tag argument has about as much weight as a plus-minus one. C'mon man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven M. Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Devilsfan118 said: I'm over KK as our backup. Plenty of better goalies out there looking for an opportunity. The year he's having is reminiscent of the Cory's first year, when they'd always lose with him but somehow win with Marty despite generally poor play. They have for the most part won in spite of him, Couldn't overcome it today. I know we didn't have a choice with Cory ailing but there's enough adversity to deal with in rivalry games without having your backup give up an early goal (or three!) early as fvck. It can't happen. I don't care that there were some defensive lapses, this is every friggin game. He needs to make a big save every once in a while and get the team going. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, SterioDesign said: eventhough it sucks that Kinkaid havent being a super solid backup this year. Buddy is making 1.2m... 47th in the league in goalie salary. What kind of expectations can we have? Eddie Lack is actually getting paid over twice that, almost 3x his salary and he's in the AHL lol If that's the case about him being the 47th highest paid goalie in the league, then he's making what the average backup goalie should make. He's had a couple of good games this season, but I don't think people are wrong to want more from the backup goalie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobilly45 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 50 minutes ago, Steven M. said: Really sh!tty loss. Bad effort in the first but I am entirely fvcking sick of being put under the gun two seconds into EVERY GAME by Kinkaid. It's a weird stretch of games for him this season... I don't recall him doing this last season. Still won 2 out of 3 games on his stretch, so he's making the saves he needs to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, bobilly45 said: It's a weird stretch of games for him this season... I don't recall him doing this last season. Still won 2 out of 3 games on his stretch, so he's making the saves he needs to He made 4 saves today before getting hurt, that's piss poor by anyone's standards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derlique Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Appleby, Severson and Zacha were my only standouts. Putrid effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I'm also banning myself from doing any more GDTs, i think I'm 0 for my last 3 I had a two game winning streak. Just sayin'.... [emoji14]Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Clearly we need to trade Cory and KK immediately, I mean Appleby is clearly the future of all goaltending since he didn’t give up any goals in 2+ periods. Am I wrong?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Clearly we need to trade Cory and KK immediately, I mean Appleby is clearly the future of all goaltending since he didn’t give up any goals in 2+ periods. Am I wrong?? Correct! 2nd best goalie in the league next to future Hof'er Wedgewood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagknife Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, MadDog2020 said: I had a two game winning streak. Just sayin'.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I know! I regret everything! Really wish I didn't wake up and it was still black outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Steven M. said: The year he's having is reminiscent of the Cory's first year, when they'd always lose with him but somehow win with Marty despite generally poor play. They have for the most part won in spite of him, Couldn't overcome it today. I know we didn't have a choice with Cory ailing but there's enough adversity to deal with in rivalry games without having your backup give up an early goal (or three!) early as fvck. It can't happen. I don't care that there were some defensive lapses, this is every friggin game. He needs to make a big save every once in a while and get the team going. Yeah, guess the best we can say is that they went 2-1 in these past three games with KK in net. You saw my save% post re: KK...you REALLY don't know what you're getting from him this season, but it's tended to be not good. Happy for Appleby...not an easy spot to come into at all...held his own. Thank god my daughter had a piano recital today at 3:00. Because if she didn't, I would've taken her to this game. Then I would've seen that trainwreck of a first period. And I would've driven home pissed off and cranky. And my daughter would've seen me throwing a great big sh!tfit in the car on the ride home. So at least there wasn't any of that. Edited January 21, 2018 by Colorado Rockies 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, titans04 said: Correct! 2nd best goalie in the league next to future Hof'er Wedgewood. Best save percentage in the history of hockey, best GAA too!!! My favorite part of th3 game was when the emergency backup backup took his place on the bench and Cangialosi was basically like “Don’t know who the hell this fvcking guy is, but obviously he’s the emergency backup” as the guy sat there in full equipment with a Devils jersey on. Are you sure, Cangi?? Edited January 21, 2018 by mfitz804 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titans04 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: Best save percentage in the history of hockey, best GAA too!!! My favorite part of th3 game was when the emergency backup backup took his place on the bench and Cangialosi was basically like “Don’t know who the hell this fvcking guy is, but obviously he’s the emergency backup” as the guy sat there in full equipment with a Devils jersey on. Are you sure, Cangi?? can't pull the wool over his or Dano's eyes, two of the best in the biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterioDesign Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 6 hours ago, jagknife said: Anton Khudobin is making the exact same and is a significantly better backup compared to Kinkiad. A price-tag argument has about as much weight as a plus-minus one. C'mon man! My argument is that youre getting what you're paying for most of the time. Kinkaid is doing his best clearly, and its not enough now. Is it his fault or it's Shero's fault for only spending that much on a backup? I dont really have an opinion on that im just asking. And i mean how can you ignore a price-tag? Would you really judge Ovechkin not scoring for 10 games the same way as you'd judge Coleman not scoring for 10 games? No cause you have expectations on players based on their contract most of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessus Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Zajac has been driving me crazy lately. If he's here to be a defene-first center, should he really continue to be on the first unit PP? There have got to be better options, because I really think it goes beyond him being a nonfactor at this point. He's starting to subtract from the offense. I'm getting tired of the failed zone entries and wasted scoring chances that are seemingly becoming more and more frequent. Also, if Stafford comes out again, does that break up the Wood-Zacha-Palmieri line? I think Hynes could be onto something with that one, so I really hope he finds a way to keep that one together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 8 hours ago, jagknife said: Anton Khudobin is making the exact same and is a significantly better backup compared to Kinkiad. A price-tag argument has about as much weight as a plus-minus one. C'mon man! In the three seasons prior to this one, Khudobin played in 59 games and put up a .902 save%. KK played in 68 games and put a .912 save% in the same timeframe. Backups are a tricky thing...part of the reason that they're backups is that they're not good enough or consistent enough to be reliable #1s, so expecting them to be consistent year in and year out is difficult. We're all down on KK at the moment because he's clearly having his worst season so far, but assuming he continues to be as meh as he's been overall for the rest of this year, doesn't mean he won't come back and be better next year. Assuming you could somehow swap Khodobin for KK in the offseason, there's not much guarantee that Khudobin would outperform KK in 2018-19. This being said, Shero seems like the kind of GM that will try to find an upgrade this offseason if KK turns in a poor season this year. I don't believe that Shero would automatically just hope that KK bounces back next season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Sure Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'm more concerned with the team's defensive breakdowns, their lack of tying sticks up in front of the net, and their overall clearing of the puck at times then all the goal-tending talk. That is, in my opinion, a bigger issue that pops up in games that they lose. Yes, the goal-tending needs to come up with a big save, but those mistakes and breakdowns can't be continually given up. On Provorov's goal, you just can't have a guy keep whacking at a puck like that without a tie-up, or a hit on him. And that whole sequence could have been avoided with a good clear about 15 seconds earlier. Because if your goalie is covering up the amount of mistakes and breakdowns that seem to plague this team in losses, then you're really not a good all around hockey team. That's a team riding a guy and those teams seem to kind of come back to the pack the next season, or their team play improves and they keep having some success. This team has it's growing pains, and I just hope that they can stay consistent defensively as a team as the season forgers ahead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgeControl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, Jersey Sure said: I'm more concerned with the team's defensive breakdowns, their lack of tying sticks up in front of the net, and their overall clearing of the puck at times then all the goal-tending talk. That is, in my opinion, a bigger issue that pops up in games that they lose. Yes, the goal-tending needs to come up with a big save, but those mistakes and breakdowns can't be continually given up. On Provorov's goal, you just can't have a guy keep whacking at a puck like that without a tie-up, or a hit on him. And that whole sequence could have been avoided with a good clear about 15 seconds earlier. Because if your goalie is covering up the amount of mistakes and breakdowns that seem to plague this team in losses, then you're really not a good all around hockey team. That's a team riding a guy and those teams seem to kind of come back to the pack the next season, or their team play improves and they keep having some success. This team has it's growing pains, and I just hope that they can stay consistent defensively as a team as the season forgers ahead. its also winning a puck battle behind our net and gaining space.. forecheckers seem to get our men to cough up the puck or make a desperate pass way more than they should.. so many 2nd and 3rd possession handed right over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jersey Sure Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, EdgeControl said: so many 2nd and 3rd possession handed right over Yes sir. Those are the plays that happen in games that have me screaming out loud and make me want to fill a drink from 3 fingers to a glass-full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Did anyone else spend the game making bad Applebee’s puns? My daughter won the day when Ken was drinking from his water bottle and she asked “Do you think he gets free refills?”. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, mfitz804 said: Did anyone else spend the game making bad Applebee’s puns? My daughter won the day when Ken was drinking from his water bottle and she asked “Do you think he gets free refills?”. I love a kid with a sense of humor...I get the feeling our daughters would crack each other up in each other's presence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 55 minutes ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said: I love a kid with a sense of humor...I get the feeling our daughters would crack each other up in each other's presence. Yeah I think you’re right. We’ll meet up one of these game days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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