Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Aznjsn

GDT: Red Wings @ Devils 7:00PM

Recommended Posts

54 minutes ago, Martyisth3b3st said:

So you're using calendar date rather than games played? 

That seems... weird.

The whole concept is weird. 2015-16 is irrelevant. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

https://www.hockey-reference.com/teams/NJD/2016_games.html

 

Im using the literal schedule and I said as of this point in the season meaning January 23rd 2016, yes. I get 2 games is 2 games and the points are better (esp since we almost ALWAYS lost in regulation and these new devils are finding a way to force points), but this team is still mediocre except for the 3 core guys we actually have.

Again, I understand that you’re using an actual calendar to tell me where the team stood. I’m just saying that if you want to arbitrarily compare this team to the team 2 years ago, you might want to compare apples to apples. How many points did we have January 23rd, 1995? The lockout year. Seems equally relevant. 

”This team is mediocre except for its 3 best players” can probably be said about 90% of the league. Hell, it can probably be said about 90% of every team in every sport. I think you’re doing a disservice to the team who’s 2nd in the Metro (with a game in hand); especially trying to negatively compare them to the 2015 squad (which is - without a doubt - what you were doing).

Edited by Martyisth3b3st

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, mfitz804 said:

The whole concept is weird. 2015-16 is irrelevant. 

I understand what he was trying to say... like, “ohh only two years have passed and we’re going backwards! Look that team had one more win!” 

The only issue was the minor detail of being entirely incorrect.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, Martyisth3b3st said:

I understand what he was trying to say... like, “ohh only two years have passed and we’re going backwards! Look that team had one more win!” 

The only issue was the minor detail of being entirely incorrect.

I understand also, but we are still second place in the Metro. 5 points out of first. 

Are we statistically a ton better? No. Are we more competitive? Fvck yeah. Maybe its because all of the teams are keeping pace with each other and nobody is blowing out the division like the Caps did in 2016, but we are still in things. And another 5-6 game streak and its all turned around again. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Speaking of 2015-16, the other thing is that was a bad team that overachieved. Everything they did turned out better than expected. Henrique had a career year, Pamieri probably had a career year, journeyman they picked up Stempniak and Schlemko had one of their best seasons, Schneider had an excellent year, obscure agitator waiver claim Bobby Farnham scored 8, deadline acquisition Devante Smith-Pelly caught fire. It was a lucky year and really that team should have been worse. I see it as 2016-17 was a regression to the mean (other than Schneider being off) and this year I see a young and legitimately improved team with more talent and an improved style of play. Not a contender yet, no one expected them to be, they are just in a valley right now.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
18 hours ago, Martyisth3b3st said:

Again, I understand that you’re using an actual calendar to tell me where the team stood. I’m just saying that if you want to arbitrarily compare this team to the team 2 years ago, you might want to compare apples to apples. How many points did we have January 23rd, 1995? The lockout year. Seems equally relevant. 

”This team is mediocre except for its 3 best players” can probably be said about 90% of the league. Hell, it can probably be said about 90% of every team in every sport. I think you’re doing a disservice to the team who’s 2nd in the Metro (with a game in hand); especially trying to negatively compare them to the 2015 squad (which is - without a doubt - what you were doing).

The main thing that keeps coming to mind is something you said back in September. 

I said that I didn't have any expectations for this team, so if we're good, we're good, if we're bad, that's fine too. 

I can't find the exact quote, but you compared this team to the Yankees. Team full of young talent that no one really expected to go on a serious run, that was in playoff position at the time and making you sh!t your pants every game. I think that's where a lot of fans, myself included, are at right now. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
27 minutes ago, RunninWithTheDevil said:

The main thing that keeps coming to mind is something you said back in September. 

I said that I didn't have any expectations for this team, so if we're good, we're good, if we're bad, that's fine too. 

I can't find the exact quote, but you compared this team to the Yankees. Team full of young talent that no one really expected to go on a serious run, that was in playoff position at the time and making you sh!t your pants every game. I think that's where a lot of fans, myself included, are at right now. 

Oh - don't get me wrong - I totally agree. It's a young, fun, and exciting team with a brighter future than we've had in years. Regardless of how we finish: this offseason, there will be playoff expectations for next season. That can't be said about any Devils team post-2012-lockout. 

My point was just comparing the point totals of this team to 2015 (and doing so incorrectly) throws a big wet blanket on this fun season so far. When I read your comment I had an "oh my god, are you kidding me? we suck again?!" reaction until I did some digging. And I don't know if that's why you posted it or not, but I felt that clarification was needed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

×