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GDT: Thank You Patty (6PM ceremony, 8PM puckdrop)

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27 minutes ago, thecoffeecake said:

We're an interesting fan base. Lou and Marty brought us a dynasty, but there are weird feelings still (which I know will pass). When I hear the name Marty Brodeur, I still think of a guy with a negative attitude who cost the team by not knowing when to give it up. I think of Lou as the guy who put this team in a 5 year hole because he was obsessed with doing everything one way. And both of them ran off to different organizations when they didn't get what they wanted. I know some of you will disagree with that, but that's just how I feel as of right now. 

 

13 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I was at the game, I could see Marty and the rest of the guys the entire ceremony, I was 12 rows off the ice yesterday. He clapped, laughed and seemed to really enjoy himself like the rest. I just went and watched the moment on TV it was under 5 seconds but hey since everyone's a mind reader now I went and looked at some of the other footage real quick... 

Here's Martin smiling and wait a minute, holy sh!t Nieds isn't clapping! He looks miserable! Must be because he went to Anaheim and won the cup with his brother! That bastard! 

Oh look Marty is smiling and clapping, what a phony! He can't seriously be enjoying himself!

That image that was posted was under 5 seconds. Who gives a fvck, the rest of the current team didn't even stay out to watch the banner go up cause they had to go get ready for the game. Lou couldn't even bother to get himself there either, who cares. 

Why people want to over analyze this nonsense when we had an amazing night topped off with an amazing game is beyond me.

the coffeecake is right on the money, a portion our fan base doesn’t like Marty and goes out of its way to criticize him. Like watching a ceremony to see when he smiled or clapped. It’s idiotic. Relying on a still frame photo that shows a single second, even more so. 

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5 minutes ago, Neb00rs said:

I mean, as I've said "Marty being Marty." But, it wasn't just one freeze frame, it was most times he came on camera. He seemed uninterested. Then again, he also seemed uninterested a few times he won the Cup too.

I mean I just took 2 mins and found things right away from him enjoying himself, I was there and saw him enjoying himself. If you don't want to take my word for it I don't know what to tell you. 

I hated that Marty played for the Blues, I pretend it didn't happen but some of this is just nonsense. 

2 minutes ago, hit the post said:

Shame he couldn't have shown an interest while the banner went up......That's the one I'll remember most.

Some people just enjoy finding the negatives in everything. Have fun with that. 

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First, I gotta thank @sundstrom for hooking me up with a ticket. It was cool to sit and meet with @Daniel.

Having attended the Brodeur retirement and now this one, last night had a different vibe. You could tell how much more this meant to Elias and his family. My man lost it like three times. It was just a more intimate ceremony when compared to MB30. Gotta give credit to the Devils for putting on such a great event. Btw, I love the fact that it was repeated 100x Elias was a Devils lifer. I think @thecoffeecake summed it up well. Devils fans obviously love Brodeur but there's just something about his last two-three years that left a sour taste. Between begging to be traded to the Stadium Series entitlement, it seemed like he only cared about himself. I get hes arguably the best of all-time, but just compare the way he talks about himself and his teammates to a guy like Elias or Schneider. 

I'll post game thoughts a bit later, but the crowd was ******* electric. That third period was the loudest I've heard the Rock since at least 2012- maybe ever. Can only imagine what a playoff series would sound like after such a long wait. 

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I too do not like the way it ended with Marty, but some of this stuff is just as silly as when the fanbase was analyzing whether Taylor Hall was smiling after he assisted on a particular goal late in the year last season, I believe it was a John Moore OT winner. To this day, at least on reddit, it's still a meme. Any thread about Hall usually has a comment "but was he smiling?" Obviously Marty enjoyed himself and the festivities yesterday. If he didn't care about Patrik or the Devils then he just would've claimed he couldn't have came for whatever reason. This is all nonsense.

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14 minutes ago, Satans Hockey said:

I mean I just took 2 mins and found things right away from him enjoying himself, I was there and saw him enjoying himself. If you don't want to take my word for it I don't know what to tell you. 

I'm not denying that any of what you said happened. I was there too, and I mostly saw him look uninterested. I'm sure there were moments where he looked more happy than not.

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The crowd was bat sh!t amazing last night. I get frustrated with these nights crowd wise because it makes me want it all the time. I think the fan base is there to have games like that all the time if the pricing of the arena was restructured quite a bit.

It would be amazing if we could make it possible to pack it out every night and have electric crowds like last night and the home opener. I want to make the playoffs so badly. 

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6 hours ago, Colorado Rockies 1976 said:

I don't think too many fans (if any at all) have any issue with Marty the player...but Marty the person has been a bit more polarizing, especially in more recent years.  This is just the latest exhibit as to why...his history pretty much dictates that in a moment where the camera happened to be right on him at the wrong time, that what seemed like an odd (non-)reaction will be picked apart.  I think mfitz and neb00rs summed it up fine...just Marty being Marty, probably didn't mean much of anything at all, but did look off at the time.  And who the hell knows...it's pure speculation, but maybe some part of him was thinking "OK, I get it, I went and played seven games with the Blues and didn't play every last game as a Devil, geez"...almost as though Elias' playing his entire career here being mentioned multiple times last night felt like some sort of a jab (though the multiple mentions were obviously never intended to be as such).  I don't claim to know Marty the person, but he strikes me as just "me me me" enough that I could see him taking Elias' "one team" comments more personally than he ever should have (even if it was only for fleeting moments).

I agree with this.  Totally possible.  

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3 hours ago, hit the post said:

You got that right....How can anyone here defend this shot of Marty ?.......Banner going up and can't look as it does or clap....Guess what Marty,you did leave and play elsewhere so stop pouting and pretend you give a fvck.

I think in his mind he was the reason they won the 3 cups but we all know he was just another important piece to the puzzle. Try and man up next time Marty because you really made yourself look bad.

100% agreed.  You have to clap there...if you aren't clapping, there is clearly an issue. Period.

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This was maybe the single best event I've ever seen the Devils organization put on. Under Lou these jersey retirements were done on the cheap, basically they'd throw a red carpet on the ice, borrow a New Jersey Board of Ed superintendents podium, couple of folding chairs and that's it. 

After the Brodeur ceremony, and after this ceremony (which was even better) it's so refreshing, and it feels so new, to finally be in first class. 

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Marty Brodeur is PROBABLY an a$$hole. 

 

Michael Jordan is an a$$hole.

Tiger Woods is an a$$hole.

Tom Brady is an a$$hole.

 

That's just how this stuff works.  Not surprising, at all.

 

All in all, the guy should have clapped and done the right thing...no matter how selfish or self-centered he is.

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4 minutes ago, '7' said:

This was maybe the single best event I've ever seen the Devils organization put on. Under Lou these jersey retirements were done on the cheap, basically they'd throw a red carpet on the ice, borrow a New Jersey Board of Ed superintendents podium, couple of folding chairs and that's it. 

After the Brodeur ceremony, and after this ceremony (which was even better) it's so refreshing, and it feels so new, to finally be in first class. 

The puck podium was an awesome idea. Kudos to whoever thought of that and to let the fans buy the pucks right after. I got one and it still has the glue on the one side, I love it. 

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as everyone has stated it was an awesome ceremony and buzz around the rock last night, definitely glad that I decided to go. As for those of you making these comments about brodeur... you're being ridiculous..find something else to analyze. 

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11 minutes ago, 2ELIAS6 said:

as everyone has stated it was an awesome ceremony and buzz around the rock last night, definitely glad that I decided to go. As for those of you making these comments about brodeur... you're being ridiculous..find something else to analyze. 

And please let it be something other than the length of his hot dog. 

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36 minutes ago, '7' said:

This was maybe the single best event I've ever seen the Devils organization put on. Under Lou these jersey retirements were done on the cheap, basically they'd throw a red carpet on the ice, borrow a New Jersey Board of Ed superintendents podium, couple of folding chairs and that's it. 

After the Brodeur ceremony, and after this ceremony (which was even better) it's so refreshing, and it feels so new, to finally be in first class. 

This organization was cash strapped and on the verge of bankruptcy. They were borrowing money from the league and Andrew Barroway. Players were concerned about getting paid. They literally had a yard sale during the season in the depths of the Rock selling anything they could get a buck for. So yeah, there are consequences of being a money losing franchise...no marketing budget, Parise never really considering signing here, encouraging Kovy to go home and the inferior retirement ceremonies.(according to you)

 

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23 minutes ago, hystyk28 said:

This organization was cash strapped and on the verge of bankruptcy. They were borrowing money from the league and Andrew Barroway. Players were concerned about getting paid. They literally had a yard sale during the season in the depths of the Rock selling anything they could get a buck for. So yeah, there are consequences of being a money losing franchise...no marketing budget, Parise never really considering signing here, encouraging Kovy to go home and the inferior retirement ceremonies.(according to you)

 

It wasn't like that every year. Literally every year from Lou's arrival to Lou's departure was on the very brink of bankruptcy? And suddenly when he leaves you see the contempt for marketing gone, you see real upkeep at the arena, you see a real effort to enter the 1st class. You see a real connection between the team and fans as the social media shutdown was lifted. I'm not just talking about the tail end of the Vanderbeek era. We knew things were bad then.

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1 hour ago, mikepeluso8 said:

Marty Brodeur is PROBABLY an a$$hole. 

 

Michael Jordan is an a$$hole.

Tiger Woods is an a$$hole.

Tom Brady is an a$$hole.

 

That's just how this stuff works.  Not surprising, at all.

 

All in all, the guy should have clapped and done the right thing...no matter how selfish or self-centered he is.

Most of those guys cheated on their wives too haha

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Just now, SterioDesign said:

Most of those guys cheated on their wives too haha

You got it.  Egomaniacs.  Self centricity.  I'm the best, I am going to be the best and you can't tell me what to do mentalities.  It's not uncommon with the best of the best of the best to be complete dickheads towards everyone and anyone.  Not surprised.  Marty is an a$$hole.  Oh well.  They always say,  "never meet your heroes" and here is a prime example.  The guy is a grade A piece of sh!t...but one hell of a hockey player.  Carry on, nothing to see here.

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17 minutes ago, '7' said:

It wasn't like that every year. Literally every year from Lou's arrival to Lou's departure was on the very brink of bankruptcy? And suddenly when he leaves you see the contempt for marketing gone, you see real upkeep at the arena, you see a real effort to enter the 1st class. You see a real connection between the team and fans as the social media shutdown was lifted. I'm not just talking about the tail end of the Vanderbeek era. We knew things were bad then.

Yet in the section I was in last night we had people booing the owners (not all but a few idiots.) What have they done other than save the franchise from financial ruin and enable Ray Shero to do everything he has asked for? People are so clueless, maybe they should take note of what the hell is going on in Ottawa right now and see how we have it pretty good. Must still be upset about the stupid fvcking goal song which is just whatever at this point.

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15 minutes ago, Steven M. said:

Yet in the section I was in last night we had people booing the owners (not all but a few idiots.) What have they done other than save the franchise from financial ruin and enable Ray Shero to do everything he has asked for? People are so clueless, maybe they should take note of what the hell is going on in Ottawa right now and see how we have it pretty good. Must still be upset about the stupid fvcking goal song which is just whatever at this point.

Maybe it's just the hip thing to do. The "in" thing to boo owners. But how can you look at that scoreboard, the maintenance and upkeep being done at the arena, the class ceremony for Elias, the newfound accessibility and real connection we have with the team. The direction we're going in with excitement and speed. The owners have been a godsend. And it finally look like we're establishing a real Devils family rather than just talking about having one and not actually having one.

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10 minutes ago, '7' said:

Maybe it's just the hip thing to do. The "in" thing to boo owners. But how can you look at that scoreboard, the maintenance and upkeep being done at the arena, the class ceremony for Elias, the newfound accessibility and real connection we have with the team. The direction we're going in with excitement and speed. The owners have been a godsend. And it finally look like we're establishing a real Devils family rather than just talking about having one.

I'm guessing they're still butthurt over the goal song.  

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37 minutes ago, '7' said:

It wasn't like that every year. Literally every year from Lou's arrival to Lou's departure was on the very brink of bankruptcy? And suddenly when he leaves you see the contempt for marketing gone, you see real upkeep at the arena, you see a real effort to enter the 1st class. You see a real connection between the team and fans as the social media shutdown was lifted. I'm not just talking about the tail end of the Vanderbeek era. We knew things were bad then.

Totally agree on the social media. Lou had his MO for doing things. He got results. As far as that leading it to being a financially successful franchise that could certainly be debated. This franchise has been fighting to survive from day 1. I am absolutely amazed that a team could be put in this market in 82 and survive. We are still far from out of the woods IMHO. These owners scare me since they are professional liquidators. Let's hope they see a decent ROI(or writeoff) or fall in love with owning this team.

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I'm still such on a high from last night. This picture is bringing me so many emotions.

Feeling so proud, privileged, grateful, nostalgic, sad, happy, moved... Thank you so much Patty for all the memories, the goals, the assists, the sacrifices, the records, the leadership, the cups, the clutch goals, the class act you were... You deserve it all.

Putting myself in his shoes, leaving behind something you absolutely loved doing but cannot any more to the level you'd want to. But recognizing everything you've accomplished, seeing the legacy you're leaving behind and seeing the appreciation from everyone surrounding you.... ughhh, I'm getting choked up just typing this.

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4 minutes ago, hystyk28 said:

Totally agree on the social media. Lou had his MO for doing things. He got results. As far as that leading it to being a financially successful franchise that could certainly be debated. This franchise has been fighting to survive from day 1. I am absolutely amazed that a team could be put in this market in 82 and survive. We are still far from out of the woods IMHO. These owners scare me since they are professional liquidators. Let's hope they see a decent ROI(or writeoff) or fall in love with owning this team.

He got on ice results no doubt. For a period of time he was the gold standard franchise builder in the NHL. The team got consistently good in 1990 and entered elite realm in 1993 which we carried through 2012 with some blips here and there. 3 Cups, 5 finals appearances and consistent regular season winning. However during that time period the Devils needed to call more attention to themselves and invest in being an elite, must see, first class franchise that is closely connected to its fans, on the cutting edge of all social media breakthroughs during that era. They didn't do that. The fruits of those successful year should've been a larger fan base, totally devoted to the team and pumping more and more money into the team to help it sustain during the leaner years. Lou believed that if you win they'd come. Well some did come, but many many more would've come if we acted like the Yankees or Habs while winning.

You're right about these new(ish, not really that new anymore) owners. However I feel as though with the Devils ownership troubles the NHL likely needed some assurances before handing the franchise off to these two. We're going into year 5 now and so far, so good. I think they expected some rocky early years but we're just now starting to turn the corner and hopefully make some money.

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Ffs you’d think Marty was kicking puppies reading this thread. Talk about an overreaction...

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3 minutes ago, Nicomo said:

Ffs you’d think Marty was kicking puppies reading this thread. Talk about an overreaction...

Some of it is some fans just wondering aloud what Marty might have been thinking or feeling at certain moments (that's what I was going for, anyway)...but yeah, some of it is a bit over the top.  But it's like I said in a previous post, Marty the person is far more polarizing than Marty the player.  Some fans really don't like the latter, no matter how much they love the former.

Suffice it to say that I definitely don't subscribe to the "Most former greats are a$$holes by default" theory...but sure, some of them have bigger egos than others.  Goes with the territory.  

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