MadDog2020 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 You don't have to be a genius to get a sense of whether a player who is set to be a UFA has any desire to re-sign with your team when you're not in contention for a playoff spot. Yeah I know, I just hear people talk about Chayka like he's the second coming sometimes and I don't get it.... I don't think he's done a very good job there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven M. Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, sundstrom said: well, the just signed another goaltender and I read somewhere that he didn't exactly love it there. Well his house did get infested with scorpions. Pretty sure I'd want to get the fvck out of there if that happened to me. No thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 59 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said: Yeah I know, I just hear people talk about Chayka like he's the second coming sometimes and I don't get it.... I don't think he's done a very good job there. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The results speak for themselves obviously. My guess is that has something to do with a combination of bad coaching and bad talent evaluation whether under Chayka or his predecessors. While they hit big on Keller, a lot of the guys that were supposed to form their young nucleus didn't pan out (Duclair traded for nothing and Domi having a disappointing season). They might have also tried to get someone better than Stepan for the seventh overall pick last summer. In a way, if things crash and burn under Chayka, it would be a roundabout benefit to the Devils in that a certain number of other GMs will take it as a lesson that you can't win without gritty players like Matt Martin. Shero seems smart enough not to fall for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antiquated Colorado Rockie Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I can't remember who but I recently hear a commentator say Raanta had interest in resigning in Arizona. Even if he doesn't, I highly doubt he would pick the Devils as a destination since Schneider played in 69, 58 and 60 games in the 3 seasons before this one and is signed at 6 mil per season until 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Brown Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 The premise of this thread is utter BS. I've been critical of Schneider this year, but he's still a great goalie. I think people need to realize that all goalies allow bad goals, and have bad years, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Mike Brown said: The premise of this thread is utter BS. I've been critical of Schneider this year, but he's still a great goalie. I think people need to realize that all goalies allow bad goals, and have bad years, He was bad last year too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slasher72 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Steven M. said: Well his house did get infested with scorpions. Pretty sure I'd want to get the fvck out of there if that happened to me. No thank you. Better than being infested with spiders. That aside, Schneider will kill this team in the playoffs. He chokes at the worst times Edited March 9, 2018 by slasher72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Schneider is done as an NHL goalie. Trade him for whatever we can get before the rest of the league figures it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpathianForest Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Daniel said: Schneider is done as an NHL goalie. Trade him for whatever we can get before the rest of the league figures it out. https://media.giphy.com/media/RbOAKqkDCeP4I/giphy.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 I would say pin this thread, but it’s going to be very painful to see all the time when we miss the playoffs. Shero’s first order of business after the season ends has to be to get rid of him. Maybe trade our first rounder for Lundqvist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 10 losses in a row. Absolutely inexcusable for a starting goalie. His putrid unclutch play is positively nauseating. It is the main reason they will miss the playoffs (and it's a certainty that they will at this point) You can't play him anymore. HE CAN'T WIN GAMES. You want to see how far he's going to take it? It'll be 12, 15, 17 losses in a row? You think. If it wasn't for some lucky posts Schneider would've give up a fat 5 spot today. Can he at least get us to OT 2-2? Can he maybe allow 1 or 0 goals ONCE? Can he steal a game like Hellebuyck just did? I would be stunned if Schneider wins another game this season. I don't think he can Edited March 9, 2018 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, '7' said: 10 losses in a row. Absolutely inexcusable for a starting goalie. His putrid unclutch play is positively nauseating. It is the main reason they will miss the playoffs (and it's a certainty that they will at this point) You can't play him anymore. HE CAN'T WIN GAMES. You want to see how far he's going to take it? It'll be 12, 15, 17 losses in a row? You think. If it wasn't for some lucky posts Schneider would've give up a fat 5 spot today. Can he at least get us to OT 2-2? Can he maybe allow 1 or 0 goals ONCE? Can he steal a game like Hellebuyck just did? I would be stunned if Schneider wins another game this season. I don't think he can Brighten up, all those guys at The Atheletic assure me that winning is the most useless stat to measure a goalie’s performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Daniel said: Brighten up, all those guys at The Atheletic assure me that winning is the most useless stat to measure a goalie’s performance. Winning in itself is useless as a stat...but allowing three goals in ten straight games is almost more impressive on the negative end than Hall's streak was on the positive end. When's the last Devils goalie that did that, Chico or Ron Low in the dark days of expansion-ism hockey? Cory's playing at the level his record dictates, that's the problem. And he's by far the biggest culprit in choking away a playoff berth right now. This is the 2007 Mets all over again...a long, slow death that you could see coming and yet still broadsides you. Now I'll never be comfortable even thirty points up in March till that y or x whatever is finally next to our name again. Edited March 9, 2018 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'7' Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said: Winning in itself is useless as a stat...but allowing three goals in ten straight games is almost more impressive on the negative end than Hall's streak was on the positive end. When's the last Devils goalie that did that, Chico or Ron Low in the dark days of expansion-ism hockey? Cory's playing at the level his record dictates, that's the problem. And he's by far the biggest culprit in choking away a playoff berth right now. I've seen this before. They're still technically in a playoff spot but they're dead. They're not making the playoffs. They didn't get far enough ahead before this killer road trip. Columbus and Florida are about to pass us like we're standing still. This is an 0-6 in regulation road trip and you can bet your life on it. MAYBE, Kinkaid can steal a game (at least we know he can do that once in a while) and make it a 1-5 road trip. Other than that we may be like 6-7 points behind Columbus and Florida when it concludes The Devils are done. They're done like the Mets were when they were ahead but done. Cory Schneider has destroyed the season We were NINE UP not too long ago and you weren't even in the picture yet? Now Cory comes back and where's our 9 point playoff cushion Cory? Where is it? Edited March 9, 2018 by '7' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, '7' said: I've seen this before. They're still technically in a playoff spot but they're dead. They're not making the playoffs. They didn't get far enough ahead before this killer road trip. Columbus and Florida are about to pass us like we're standing still. This is an 0-6 in regulation road trip and you can bet your life on it. MAYBE, Kinkaid can steal a game (at least we know he can do that once in a while) and make it a 1-5 road trip. Other than that we may be like 6-7 points behind Columbus and Florida when it concludes The Devils are done. They're done like the Mets were when they were ahead but done. Cory Schneider has destroyed the season We were NINE UP not too long ago and you weren't even in the picture yet? Now Cory comes back and where's our 9 point playoff cushion Cory? Where is it? With our luck they''ll somehow go 3-2-1 or 2-3-1 on the road trip (with either the offense or KK winning games cause we know Cory won't while it matters) then choke it away back at home. Edited March 9, 2018 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, '7' said: The Devils are done. They're done like the Mets were when they were ahead but done. Cory Schneider has destroyed the season I know this is your schtick, but man.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilsfan118 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) Cory Schneider Game Logs Date Team GS W L T OT SA GA Sv% SO TOI Mar 4 vs VGK 1 0 1 0 0 27 3 .889 0 58:10 Mar 1 @ FLA 1 0 1 0 0 29 3 .897 0 57:23 Jan 23 @ BOS 1 0 1 0 0 20 3 .850 0 40:00 Jan 22 vs DET 1 0 1 0 0 30 3 .900 0 59:58 Jan 13 vs PHI 1 0 1 0 0 25 5 .800 0 60:00 Jan 7 @ NYI 1 -- -- -- 1 38 4 .895 0 64:38 Jan 4 @ DAL 1 0 1 0 0 33 4 .879 0 58:29 Dec 30 @ WSH 1 0 1 0 0 34 4 .882 0 59:12 Dec 29 vs BUF 1 -- -- -- 1 29 4 .862 0 62:37 Dec 27 vs DET 1 1 0 0 0 32 1 .969 0 60:00 Dec 23 vs CHI 1 1 0 0 0 40 1 .975 0 60:00 Dec 21 vs NYR 1 1 0 0 0 28 3 .893 0 65:00 Dec 18 vs ANA 1 1 0 0 0 24 3 .875 0 60:00 Dec 15 vs DAL 1 1 0 0 0 30 2 .933 0 60:00 Dec 14 @ MTL 1 -- -- -- 1 36 2 .944 0 61:30 Dec 12 vs LAK 1 1 0 0 0 17 1 .941 0 60:00 Dec 8 vs CBJ 1 0 1 0 0 28 5 .821 0 59:07 Dec 5 @ CBJ 1 1 0 0 0 42 1 .976 0 60:00 Dec 1 @ COL 1 1 0 0 0 23 1 .957 0 59:56 Nov 27 vs FLA 1 0 1 0 0 38 3 .921 0 58:13 Nov 24 vs VAN 1 1 0 0 0 25 2 .920 0 60:00 Nov 22 vs BOS 1 -- -- -- 1 29 2 .931 0 65:00 Nov 20 @ MIN 1 1 0 0 0 36 3 .917 0 60:50 Nov 18 @ WPG 1 0 1 0 0 22 5 .773 0 40:00 Nov 16 @ TOR 1 -- -- -- 1 25 1 .960 0 64:57 Nov 11 vs FLA 1 1 0 0 0 33 1 .970 0 60:00 Nov 9 vs EDM 1 -- -- -- 1 32 3 .906 0 64:43 Nov 7 vs STL 1 0 1 0 0 39 2 .949 0 59:20 Nov 3 @ EDM 1 0 1 0 0 41 5 .878 0 59:58 Nov 1 @ VAN 1 1 0 0 0 37 0 1.000 1 59:46 Oct 28 vs ARI 1 1 0 0 0 37 3 .919 0 60:00 Oct 19 @ OTT 1 -- -- -- 0 24 4 .833 0 40:00 Oct 17 vs TBL 1 1 0 0 0 37 4 .892 0 64:58 Oct 13 vs WSH 1 0 1 0 0 28 5 .821 0 60:00 Oct 11 @ TOR 1 1 0 0 0 50 3 .940 0 60:00 Oct 9 @ BUF 1 1 0 0 0 25 2 .920 0 60:00 Oct 7 vs COL 1 1 0 0 0 41 1 .976 0 60:00 38 GP (counting tonight). 17 with <.900 SV%. Edited March 9, 2018 by Devilsfan118 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Cory Schneider Game Logs Date Team GS W L T OT SA GA Sv% SO TOI Mar 4 vs VGK 1 0 1 0 0 27 3 .889 0 58:10 Mar 1 @ FLA 1 0 1 0 0 29 3 .897 0 57:23 Jan 23 @ BOS 1 0 1 0 0 20 3 .850 0 40:00 Jan 22 vs DET 1 0 1 0 0 30 3 .900 0 59:58 Jan 13 vs PHI 1 0 1 0 0 25 5 .800 0 60:00 Jan 7 @ NYI 1 -- -- -- 1 38 4 .895 0 64:38 Jan 4 @ DAL 1 0 1 0 0 33 4 .879 0 58:29 Dec 30 @ WSH 1 0 1 0 0 34 4 .882 0 59:12 Dec 29 vs BUF 1 -- -- -- 1 29 4 .862 0 62:37 Dec 27 vs DET 1 1 0 0 0 32 1 .969 0 60:00 Dec 23 vs CHI 1 1 0 0 0 40 1 .975 0 60:00 Dec 21 vs NYR 1 1 0 0 0 28 3 .893 0 65:00 Dec 18 vs ANA 1 1 0 0 0 24 3 .875 0 60:00 Dec 15 vs DAL 1 1 0 0 0 30 2 .933 0 60:00 Dec 14 @ MTL 1 -- -- -- 1 36 2 .944 0 61:30 Dec 12 vs LAK 1 1 0 0 0 17 1 .941 0 60:00 Dec 8 vs CBJ 1 0 1 0 0 28 5 .821 0 59:07 Dec 5 @ CBJ 1 1 0 0 0 42 1 .976 0 60:00 Dec 1 @ COL 1 1 0 0 0 23 1 .957 0 59:56 Nov 27 vs FLA 1 0 1 0 0 38 3 .921 0 58:13 Nov 24 vs VAN 1 1 0 0 0 25 2 .920 0 60:00 Nov 22 vs BOS 1 -- -- -- 1 29 2 .931 0 65:00 Nov 20 @ MIN 1 1 0 0 0 36 3 .917 0 60:50 Nov 18 @ WPG 1 0 1 0 0 22 5 .773 0 40:00 Nov 16 @ TOR 1 -- -- -- 1 25 1 .960 0 64:57 Nov 11 vs FLA 1 1 0 0 0 33 1 .970 0 60:00 Nov 9 vs EDM 1 -- -- -- 1 32 3 .906 0 64:43 Nov 7 vs STL 1 0 1 0 0 39 2 .949 0 59:20 Nov 3 @ EDM 1 0 1 0 0 41 5 .878 0 59:58 Nov 1 @ VAN 1 1 0 0 0 37 0 1.000 1 59:46 Oct 28 vs ARI 1 1 0 0 0 37 3 .919 0 60:00 Oct 19 @ OTT 1 -- -- -- 0 24 4 .833 0 40:00 Oct 17 vs TBL 1 1 0 0 0 37 4 .892 0 64:58 Oct 13 vs WSH 1 0 1 0 0 28 5 .821 0 60:00 Oct 11 @ TOR 1 1 0 0 0 50 3 .940 0 60:00 Oct 9 @ BUF 1 1 0 0 0 25 2 .920 0 60:00 Oct 7 vs COL 1 1 0 0 0 41 1 .976 0 60:00 38 GP (counting tonight). 17 with <.900 sv> That's horrible. No two ways about it.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Those numbers... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The creator of this thread is being proven right. it's ridiculous to be outplaying good teams only to know you have no chance in these games cause the goaltending situation is a mess right now. i know that this team has defensive lapses in games too, but good goaltending will bail you out, which isn't the case here. In plain words, the panic button has been pushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colorado Rockies 1976 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 1 hour ago, njbuff said: The creator of this thread is being proven right. it's ridiculous to be outplaying good teams only to know you have no chance in these games cause the goaltending situation is a mess right now. i know that this team has defensive lapses in games too, but good goaltending will bail you out, which isn't the case here. In plain words, the panic button has been pushed. You can win with the guy who put up a .923 save% through 12/27, and the Cory of 2013-14 through 2015-2016. Hopefully we see that guy again soon, because yeah, you're not winning with the Cory we've seen over the last 10 games. No one is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munichdevil Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 You really have to wonder how tough it must be for a team to climb back into games, only to see another softie go in on your end. With flipped goalies, what would the score yesterday have been? 5-1 maybe? 4-2? Imho we would never have lost the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 People talk about Cory stealing games for us, and being "clutch", and he did make a nice diving save with the stick as the puck was about the cross the line yesterday which sure was a beauty, but that second goal...? Man, that was fvcking terrible. Guy almost shot it from the blue line, and I get it was through a screen, but still. For all the sh!t Kinkaid got (and I'm not at all saying Kinkaid is better than Schneider, or that he's even a starting goalie to begin with), Cory deservers, and seems to be getting, equal sh!t for his play lately. Something tells me Cory may still not be right, either health wise, or perhaps mentally too, and I don't think you can play him right now. Give Kinkaid the starting job from here on out, unless he plays worse, which would be hard to do, and then evaluate the guys in the offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadvlfan Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, NJDfan1711 said: People talk about Cory stealing games for us, and being "clutch", and he did make a nice diving save with the stick as the puck was about the cross the line yesterday which sure was a beauty, but that second goal...? Man, that was fvcking terrible. Guy almost shot it from the blue line, and I get it was through a screen, but still. For all the sh!t Kinkaid got (and I'm not at all saying Kinkaid is better than Schneider, or that he's even a starting goalie to begin with), Cory deservers, and seems to be getting, equal sh!t for his play lately. Something tells me Cory may still not be right, either health wise, or perhaps mentally too, and I don't think you can play him right now. Give Kinkaid the starting job from here on out, unless he plays worse, which would be hard to do, and then evaluate the guys in the offseason. There's a lot of rumblings out of Montreal that Carey price could be available. He has had a crap year for sure. Although Price is considered a great goalie, he's getting beaucoup $$ for many years to come. . How would you like to be saddled with that? What happened to the Corey that played 1st half of the year? His price is reasonable. I think Hynes is going to ride him out the rest of the year. Live or die with Corey. This will determine what Ray will do over the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadDog2020 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 People talk about Cory stealing games for us, and being "clutch", and he did make a nice diving save with the stick as the puck was about the cross the line yesterday which sure was a beauty, but that second goal...? Man, that was fvcking terrible. Guy almost shot it from the blue line, and I get it was through a screen, but still. For all the sh!t Kinkaid got (and I'm not at all saying Kinkaid is better than Schneider, or that he's even a starting goalie to begin with), Cory deservers, and seems to be getting, equal sh!t for his play lately. Something tells me Cory may still not be right, either health wise, or perhaps mentally too, and I don't think you can play him right now. Give Kinkaid the starting job from here on out, unless he plays worse, which would be hard to do, and then evaluate the guys in the offseason. This is in his head now, and Schneider never struck me as someone with steely mental toughness. He's the anti-Marty when it comes to the mental aspect. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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