Satans Hockey Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Devs3cups said: Can we admit people were pretty much overreacting with him? Slumps happen. Happy he found his groove. And whatever happens next game, he's clearly back. I do wonder if he wasn't anywhere near 100% healthy when he came back and all that extra rest he got when Keith was playing got him closer to being healthy like he was at the start of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicomo Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Just now, Devs3cups said: Can we admit people were pretty much overreacting with him? Slumps happen. Happy he found his groove. And whatever happens next game, he's clearly back. Nah, he deserved the reactions. He was dreadful for way too many games, and it almost cost the playoffs. 4 or 5 game slumps are one thing but he went winless for like a dozen. Hopefully that’s all behind us now though. He looks like he did when he was lights out in October again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Eh it's nice he finally stopped allowing 3+ a game but that first period was scary bad. Glad he picked it up in the last two but it'd be nice if he didn't only play his best hockey when the team was behind. Even Game 3 the team was behind much of the night when he played well. And 2018 was more than a 'slump'...twelve freaking games in a row allowing 3+ goals is putrid by any standard. Even crappy goalies on bad teams by accident can manage one good game out of twelve. I still go back to the fact that one guy has one win all of 2018, the other guy was 16-3-1 from early February on with the same team. Edited April 19, 2018 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said: Eh it's nice he finally stopped allowing 3+ a game but that first period was scary bad. Glad he picked it up in the last two but it'd be nice if he didn't only play his best hockey when the team was behind. Scary bad? What goal do you pin on him? First goal was a perfect shot by Miller and the second was Kucherov point blank after a sh!t play by Severson. And please don't say the disallowed goal. He sure played great when the team was in front yesterday. Seems like you just don't like him. Edited April 19, 2018 by Devs3cups 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Devs3cups said: Scary bad? What goal do you pin on him? And please don't say the disallowed goal. Why not, it's not like it didn't happen just because it didn't count after the fact. And the shortside goal was pretty iffy as well, but par for the course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said: Why not, it's not like it didn't happen just because it didn't count after the fact. And the shortside goal was pretty iffy as well, but par for the course. Let's agree to disagree, I feel he played a good game. And he was good too in game 3. Bottom line, he gave the team a chance to win tonight with 35 saves. What did you think of KK's performances in games 1 and 2? Edited April 19, 2018 by Devs3cups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDevs4978 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Devs3cups said: Scary bad? What goal do you pin on him? First goal was a perfect shot by Miller and the second was Kucherov point blank after a sh!t play by Severson. And please don't say the disallowed goal. He sure played great when the team was in front yesterday. Seems like you just don't like him. What, for the seven lousy minutes they were in front? They dominated the period, he had maybe a handful of stops after that at best. I'm just sick of always going the moral victory route with Cory when he gives up a killer goal THEN starts playing well and it's 'oh he held the team in there!'. Yeah okay, I've seen this script too many times before - do it when the team's in front or tied, then you'll have more than one win in fourteen games. In fact the Lightning had exactly two shots on goal in the third period Monday from the Noesen goal on. It's not a matter of not liking Cory, seems like a good dude, I want him to do well but the excuse-making and rationalizations for him get old. Edited April 19, 2018 by NJDevs4978 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven M. Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Pretty sad that the second goal of a game has to be the "killer" goal. You're not going to win a game with 1 goal scored against the friggin Lightning. He's played well in this series and there's zero other way to look at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NJDevs4978 said: What, for the seven lousy minutes they were in front? They dominated the period, he had maybe a handful of stops after that at best. I'm just sick of always going the moral victory route with Cory when he gives up a killer goal THEN starts playing well and it's 'oh he held the team in there!'. Yeah okay, I've seen this script too many times before - do it when the team's in front or tied, then you'll have more than one win in fourteen games. Fait enough, I mean I won't look at it this way, it is what it is. I think it all comes down to what your expectations are. I feel Cory, allowing 4 goals in 2 games and around 80 shots, to possibly the best offense in the league is him doing his job. NJ scored 1 goal and were blanked for the following 52 minutes, that's the story. If you wanna analyze it by goals given up when the team is leading or tied or whatever, that's fine. But I don't think he played even close to bad in games 3 and 4, in fact he was pretty great and he gave us a chance to win in both. Edited April 19, 2018 by Devs3cups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclc79 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 All the preceding discussion about CS in game 4 has valid points. Bottom line: CS gave us a chance to win, and we did not. We simply lost to a better team that executed its game plan. Just realize, we are still a work in progress, having faced down one of the best offenses in the league, killing all penalties and still creating some very good scoring chances. We have some way to go, but it is still way better than what Shero was left with, very little. There is a light up ahead; let us continue to reach for it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJDfan1711 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Agree with all the prior discussion as well - Cory played pretty well and did his part to keep us in it. All the previous criticisms are/were still valid though too - that stretch of 12 games he had were as bad as it gets, but that's in the past. He's playing better now, and if he plays like he did yesterday and in Game 3, we should still have a chance to get another win on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 9:25 PM, Devils Pride 26 said: Come on. This board has gotten ridiculously soft. This isn’t a troll job. It’s discussion. For everyone that has a problem with the complaining, what the hell else do you want to talk about? What do you expect? This is a Devils message board and they are in the process of a catastrophic meltdown that will do significant damage to the mental health of the franchise moving forward. i’m not so sure there’s a catastrophic meltdown going on. Maybe Schneider have something going on, maybe he doesn’t. I thought you played very well last night. He wasn’t the issue, they completely shut down our offense. For all the talk about our forward depth, nobody got anything accomplished last night and they failed to pick up Corey a night where he only gave up two . I can’t argue that his previous nine starts we’re a good effort. But he kept them in that game last night, and they could not get it done on the other end.But he kept them in that game last night, and they could not get it done on the other end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Dan 56 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If Cory plays like this and Keith stays at his elevated level, we have a very solid tandem next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redruM Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 IMHO this series is not about KK or CS, its about PK & PP... end of story... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satans Hockey Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 22 minutes ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: Those seem like ginormous “ifs” You just don't want to have to keep your new name lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 34 minutes ago, Kinkyisth3b3st said: Those seem like ginormous “ifs” True. Seems like a fun exercise: If Taylor and Nico both have 50 goals and 100 points next year, and Palmieri has 30 and 70, we will have a very solid top line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devils Pride 26 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 4 hours ago, mfitz804 said: i’m not so sure there’s a catastrophic meltdown going on. Maybe Schneider have something going on, maybe he doesn’t. I thought you played very well last night. He wasn’t the issue, they completely shut down our offense. For all the talk about our forward depth, nobody got anything accomplished last night and they failed to pick up Corey a night where he only gave up two . I can’t argue that his previous nine starts we’re a good effort. But he kept them in that game last night, and they could not get it done on the other end.But he kept them in that game last night, and they could not get it done on the other end. The catastrophic meltdown was directed at the team blowing the 9 point lead, not Schneider exclusively. Last night I agree, h did a good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, mfitz804 said: True. Seems like a fun exercise: If Taylor and Nico both have 50 goals and 100 points next year, and Palmieri has 30 and 70, we will have a very solid top line. Hahaha, although they are ''ifs'' I feel the chances of Cory being Cory again next year are way higher and way more probable than Keith being stellar like he's been continually. Edited April 19, 2018 by Devs3cups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 16 minutes ago, Devs3cups said: Hahaha, although they are ''ifs'' I feel the chances of Cory being Cory again next year are way higher and way more probable than Keith being stellar like he's been continually. What are the chances of KK scoring some more Chipotle related tail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs3cups Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, mfitz804 said: What are the chances of KK scoring some more Chipotle related tail? 105% He should legit get a Chipotle commercial or something hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Devs3cups said: 105% He should legit get a Chipotle commercial or something hahaha Dude's life IS a Chipotle commercial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoffeecake Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I know the overwhelming opinion is that Cory's job is safe going into next season, but I'm not so sure. He seems to not handle big time situations all that well, and I wonder how he'll respond with there being a legitimate goaltending question going into next season. Even if he gets the assurance that the job is his, everyone knows he'll be on a much shorter leash, and a few bad games the net will be up for grabs. I would've stuck with Kinkaid for game 3, but obviously we got everything we needed out of Cory the last two games and am not questioning the call at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshall Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, thecoffeecake said: I know the overwhelming opinion is that Cory's job is safe going into next season, but I'm not so sure. Ah, I don't know about that. But I certainly think it's his to lose, which to me is very different. Edited April 20, 2018 by Marshall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aclc79 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, thecoffeecake said: I know the overwhelming opinion is that Cory's job is safe going into next season, but I'm not so sure. He seems to not handle big time situations all that well, and I wonder how he'll respond with there being a legitimate goaltending question going into next season. Even if he gets the assurance that the job is his, everyone knows he'll be on a much shorter leash, and a few bad games the net will be up for grabs. I would've stuck with Kinkaid for game 3, but obviously we got everything we needed out of Cory the last two games and am not questioning the call at all. He will have to prove to the coaching staff that this is not the case. That could prove difficult; he was never the #1 in VAN, Luongo was, as he should have been. But a good start in game 5, giving us a real chance to win in this elimination game, will help. Edited April 20, 2018 by aclc79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfitz804 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Marshall said: Ah, I don't know about that. But I certainly think it's his to lose, which to me is very different. If nothing else, maybe we have the 1A/1B situation people were saying we needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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